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In the court, one time and a chicken ran across and they had to go pick up the chicken.
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And that the idea behind it, is that you're never going to let anything rattle you.
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You're going to play your game, no matter if a chicken is on the court or not.
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So we call it.
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That's our chicken.
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And I think it's important just to know that any challenge that's thrown our way that we are absolutely going to overcome any adversity as if it was supposed to happen that way.
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Today we have a very special guest who is actually another college coach, in which I'm very excited to talk to a college coach because the area, the environment that you get into when you talk from number one, juniors, it's its own universe when we talk about juniors and then kind of the typical adult experience where we have weekend tournaments and recreational play, but we're still trying to get better, that is a crazy different experience than juniors or college.
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And the professional experience is entirely different and in some ways worse than a lot of people's college experience with sports because of maybe the lack of funding, lack of resources, lack of leadership and direction, I'm not sure.
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But Gretchen Hand has a ton of experiences.
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She played on the AVP, she played pro.
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She is now a college coach for Missouri State Beach Volleyball, and we're going to dive into her experience and try to glean the differences and see what the pluses and minuses are for players at each level and in each kind of little beach volleyball universe.
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So I'm super excited to have her on and I can't wait to hear about her experience and learn a lot from her.
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So without further ado, Gretchen Hand.
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Welcome to the show.
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Thanks so much for having me.
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I'm super excited to geek out with you about beach volleyball.
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Let's do it.
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So what we always ask is, what did you do today? So you're currently Missouri State beach Volleyball head coach.
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What was today like? And today is May 5.
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Happy sinko de Mayo of 2022.
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Happy Sinko de Mayo today.
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We have been celebrating just our end-of-season review.
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This is where we get to meet with student-athletes and kind of go over, this is where we are at and this is how we're going to continue to improve and really develop fully both as an individual student-athlete and as a program.
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So it's all fun and great feedback of how to get that future growth.
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How long do those meetings last? You pull each individual in and you just say, this is where I think you have to get.
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This is where we are right now.
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How long does that meeting last? And what's the most uncomfortable that you've ever been in one of those meetings?
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Well, I think that it's never meant to be a bad discussion. Like whenever you do a review, we should always be able to call it that, find the positives.
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Right? And then there's always going to be I never want to be a know it all as a coach or a player, so there's always going to be areas to improve and being open to learning is really important.
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As a first year coach to Missouri State University, one of the biggest things is just to get to know my kids.
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And we had a wonderful roster of student-athletes that gave their very best this year.
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And we had learning curves this year that were incredible.
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And I became a better coach for my student-athletes and my student-athletes became better athletes all the way around.
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So it's a win-win.
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I think one of the biggest things after COVID is just kind of learning how to chat and how to discuss face-to-face again after being thankful for this podcast.
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But it's different whenever you're face to face 100%.
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So to have that human connection and being able to meet with coaches who care, we want to show that first and foremost we care about our student-athletes.
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And it was pretty easy during that time to feel really alone, disconnected, lucky enough to have a pretty awesome wife.
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So we got to play.
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We were peppering out in front of my house, like every day, working out together.
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And then we went on a bunch of road trips.
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When they locked everybody in, we're like, lock-in can technically mean lock in your car, right? So we went out on these big road trips.
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But if you don't have that partnership, that friendship or somebody's at home working or the nightmares of it, where it's like you don't like your home environment, covid could have been a terrible time for a lot of people.
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And getting back out of that where you can just be around, you can change environments and be around some better people.
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Imagine a lot of people are getting this breath of fresh air in terms of people in person.
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I think we have a lot of families still recovering, and that's okay. And it's okay not to be okay.
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And we've had those communications with colleagues, student-athletes, you name it.
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It's okay to check in on each other and have a different dialogue and not just brush off the dust and act as if everything's okay.
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I think that for the next few years, we're still going to see families struggling financially and learning how to recover from that.
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And we want to be there for all of our student-athletes and colleagues and our friends and any way that we can support.
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So today was a day of review and how we can do better both on the court, off the court, academically, and how we can have more fun over the summertime to get really excited about our fall time.
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All right, I'm going to ask you right now just because I kind of want to dive into pretend I'm diving into one of those player meetings.
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So I want you, in your mind, pick one player in your head.
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And of course, we don't need to or want to say your name, but what was one piece of advice that you gave to her to get better? It was one tangible thing that you gave her during one of the meetings today or yesterday.
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I got it.
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Okay, so without naming names, we had a student-athlete that was asked to do multiple roles, whether it was split blocking or being a role of a defender.
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And that student-athlete had a tremendous outlook and just really kept a positive attitude.
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And yet whenever you're going back and forth between the roles, I think one of the hardest things is to be patient with yourself.
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And I know that that's one of my own personal downfalls.
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Everything that we wanted, we wanted it yesterday.
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So as an underclassmen, Missouri State beach volleyball.
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We were very young this season, and a lot of underclassmen did a great job, and it takes time.
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And so that is something where you can't put a finger on it, just like, yeah, I'm going to give myself this.
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And sometimes it's asking your student-athletes and your athletes just to have faith and faith in the process.
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And so across the board, I know that we're doing great things, and yet it still takes time.
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It's never going to be a perfect game.
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You have sets and matches.
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They're like, wow, I was really on.
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That was awesome.
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Like, fire, straight fire.
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And then there are times when you're like, wow, I just got hit literally in the face.
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And it's humbling.
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And we celebrate that joy in a wide range. And I think it's important to just let it be that at that moment and then be patient with it.
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That patience is something huge.
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And I remember being in college and somebody way smarter than me talking about the progression of years in college.
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I was really impatient with the skills, and I think a lot of people are really impatient with not developing.
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They want to know when's the time that I'm going to be this level of efficiency.
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And it's hard to really measure that.
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We had a few drills in college where you knew, hey, if I beat this drill, I'm at the level where I need to be.
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And that was a big plus or minus side out drill, where it's just you against an entire team of six, and can we set you and can you side out and play a little game of tug of war where you get a seven point lead, essentially, and it was horrifically taxing conditioning drill.
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But the first time you win plus seven, minus seven, you're like, Yeah, this is me being a baller.
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And I think that those are the character builders, and you kind of have to be okay with earning your weight and really learning how to enjoy that process, because if you're constantly just try to get to the next step and get to the next step, while it's great to be passionate and driven, we're supposed to have fun along the way.
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And that is where, if we're not enjoying the process, we can actually stunt our own growth.
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So we want to find joy in the process.
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We want to be patient.
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And really, we try to journal every day at the end of our practices just to kind of, like, set it back in stone and review it in our heads of, this is what we did a great job with today.
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And so for any athletes out there, what did you do a great job with today? And it could be anywhere from I planned out my day to doing meal prep and having great nutrition to I got enough sleep.
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I put down my phone.
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I got enough sleep and went to bed early.
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So we really try to talk about all the disciplines that can make us more efficient on the court.
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And while it's skills and drills yeah.
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It's also about the disciplines of the court that will set you up for success.
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It's so funny when you said, put your phone down and go to sleep thing.
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When I was in college, we had texting.
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I don't think we had smartphones yet.
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I don't quite remember, but there was still a significant amount of texting, and we had laptops, so that was when on facebook, you're just DMing everybody.
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That was our smartphone texting.
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And it's strangely important and difficult to say, I'm going to put my phone down now because otherwise it's going to cost me this much sleep.
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And I think a lot of people, myself included, will watch something or text or communicate or just swipe through reels or whatever until they feel like they're so tired that they can't continue, you know, instead of choosing to go to bed so that you have maximal performance.
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It's strange that your body is willing to sacrifice that time down the road and that your mind doesn't say, no, I have to shut it down, I have to put the phone in another room, I have to close it so that I can get my sleep.
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Because your body or your brain at that point doesn't know that you want to wake up in four or 5 hours
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Yeah, to piggyback off of that. So you have these student-athletes that are physically still developing.
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Think about your college years of how your body changes and muscle development, and that's for both males and females.
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And so whenever we talk about a controllable, that's controllable you can control.
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If you are letting your body wind down and turning off that phone or creating a new system so you can have more recovery time to be more efficient on the court, that absolutely as a freshman and sophomore in college, it gets a little different whenever you're a junior and senior because of the number of repetitions you've had.
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And longevity-wise, if you start practicing those disciplines earlier, it can lead to a stronger, healthier career even beyond that collegiate level.
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Yes, stronger healthier.
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It's not talked about enough that the lack of sleep will cost you an injury, and an injury will create a new motor pattern.
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And that motor pattern, just because you want to get back into sports so quickly, you might ignore full recovery, you might get back to the point where you can play, but do you actually get your body back to the point where it was pre injury? And I know personally that's why I went through a lot of that.
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I found the minimum amount of recovery time and then I just said I'm good enough to play.
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And you kind of forget about the little rehab to get that section of your body back to 100%, so that your body operates again at 100%.
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But if you lose sleep, you lose nutrition, you start getting hurt, then hurt is where you build compensations on compensation.
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And then you just keep this cycle of getting those dominoes.
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Those dominoes keep going for sure
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Just going back to the path of how fast people should get better. I remember the college coach, what he told me, and this was Paul Concer.
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I don't know where he's coaching right now.
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I should shoot him a text.
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He's always like making his way around the NCAA coaching rounds but he said, Listen, Mark, you're being too impatient with yourself.
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And I was like, Whatever.
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But he said, Year one is when you're just looking at everything and you're learning what a tool does.
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You're not even learning how to use it yet.
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You're just looking around saying, that's a hammer, and it put snails in that's duct tape.
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Okay? It sticks things together.
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The entire year two is you being able to now use it.
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Okay, let's teach you how to actually be efficient with a hammer.
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And you might only learn a couple of them in that second year because it takes a lot to be a master with each tool.
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And then he says, finally, you're three, four, five, depending on how long you've been in the game.
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That's when he goes, you have your tool belt.
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You see a problem and you don't even need to look for it.
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You just grab it from your tool belt and you know, that's the solution to that problem.
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And that really calmed me down when he somehow, I guess, metaphorically or theoretically broke it into years of where I should be mentally.
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That pathway for success. And I think that was a great way to break it down.
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And we talk about our resources as well, and whether it's those proper tools and the progression.
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But I think that whenever we look at beach volleyball, it's so incredible to see how quickly these student-athletes are coming in as impact players.
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And you're seeing it right now on so many levels.
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It's not necessarily if you're a senior or graduate student, you're seeing anywhere from freshmen all the way up, competing on the court in great ways.
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And so, again, it may not be a year thing.
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It may be that your maturity, it's a different pathway.
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So that patience, it's really important that every year is different and that we recognize that maybe your first two years you were on and it was fire, it was easy, and then there could have been an injury or there's some other life change that makes it a different kind of season.
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And so it's really important just to be a constant learner and okay with making adjustments as you need it.
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That's so smart just to say, like, hey, your path might change, it might get altered when you should have zagged or zig when you're supposed to zag.
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But you have to be a constant learner, which means when you're presented with a new situation, a new environment, hey, this isn't an interruption.
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This is our opportunity now to adapt and overcome and see what's next, because life's going to throw always a million problems.
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We can problem-solve now. I mean, my goodness, our goal and what we want to do is to help our student-athletes go out and be successful young adults in the professional world and be incredible influencers and many, many platforms.
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And I'm confident that this class that's coming off of COVID they're fighters.
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They didn't quit even when there was a global pandemic.
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So for any student-athlete out there that is struggling, you've already made it through so much, you just got to keep going.
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As a coach, do you ever throw intentional wrenches for your team or for a player, or do you kind of let life handle that? I did this one thing when I was coaching player coach in Sweden for one of my pro teams and I locked them out for an intentional 25 minutes before a practice.
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And, you know, I was going to use it as a teaching point, like, what's going to happen if we show up to a match and we need to play immediately? How are we going to react in that situation? That's going to be a problem we're going to run into.
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To teach my youth coaching girls club team, to teach them honestly, it was a thing about drinking.
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I had them hold something in their hands while trying to play a volleyball and literally a two hour, not one handed practice, but they had to hold something in their hands.
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And I said, this is what this can do to you.
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Just know that you will be handicapped if you make the decision to drink.
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And at no point did I say, don't drink, don't drink, blah, blah.
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I said, this is what comes with your decisions.
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There's an inability to do certain things.
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Can you work around it? Did you figure out how to pass because you could put your other hand on top of it? Yes.
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Is it compromising you? Incredibly, yes.
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But they didn't know what I was teaching them until the end of the practice when they were so pissed off.
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I think that it's important to use different modes of learning and anything that's thought provoking at this point.
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Beach volleyball is such an ever changing sport.
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That's our chicken.
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I coached with coach Carlos Immense at Weber International University, and being from Columbia, he was literally playing on a court one time and a chicken ran across and they had to go pick up the chicken.
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And the idea behind it is that you're never going to let anything rattle you.
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You're going to play your game, no matter if a chicken is on the court or not.
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So we call it.
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That's our chicken.
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And I think it's just important.
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It's important just to know that any challenge that's thrown our way, that we are absolutely going to overcome any adversity as if it was supposed to happen that way.
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Because beach volleyball is random.
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As if it was supposed to happen that way. That's gold.
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We're right where we need to be.
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Treat problems as if they were supposed to happen.
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Round of applause for that one.
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I like that.
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That might be our hook.
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OK, so we talk a lot about problem solving.
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I want to know what you think mentally, are the two most important attributes and I might end up pressuring you into a more detailed answer.
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Usually people don't get it on the first try, but something tangible.
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What are the two most important attributes mentally for a successful beach volleyball player?
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Well, on the court to create the most success, I feel like you're either 50% of the solution or you're 50% of the challenge. Right.
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And every single rally we want to be solution-based, meaning that whenever it comes to having a teammate that I find this year was super, super helpful.
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Coach Carol Walter, our assistant coach, like, we used to play together and we were lucky enough to have her assistance this year.
00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:10,050
And one of the best points that was really effective is as we were teaming up, we were like our athletes weren't looking each other in the eyes.
00:22:10,220 --> 00:22:17,240
And so whenever after rallies it's like, okay, look at each other and let's talk about what we need real quick.
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:27,346
Was that great set? Okay, we're going to give that visual of like, hey, that was a great set and start to make that better connection with our teammates.
00:22:27,478 --> 00:22:40,938
And I think that that is, again, after COVID something that's kind of been lost is just really making sure that we're connecting with our teammates on the court and asking how we can help each other.
00:22:41,084 --> 00:22:45,558
So we want to be solution-based and be there for each other.
00:22:45,644 --> 00:22:51,260
And I think that is different for every student-athlete of what they need for success.
00:22:52,070 --> 00:23:22,002
So does problem solving mean 50% of the problem solver? Is that positivity instead of turning emotional a logical how do we fix this problem?
00:23:22,076 --> 00:23:42,822
So going back over the resources or the tools that we previously had talked about the tool belt and we talked about on when we're on serve receive making sure that we have a great site out game. Well, if we have a really aggressive server that's pushing us deep, did we adjust with the proper footwork? Do we reset a little bit deeper? If we got challenged on the back left corner, did we take that serve away and shift our services? There's so many different resources that we could have used.
00:23:42,896 --> 00:23:45,378
We could have switched our left and right side.
00:23:45,524 --> 00:23:56,298
But we're going to exhaust all of our resources and make sure that we are making as many adjustments to make it difficult for that for our opponents to do it again.
00:23:56,444 --> 00:23:57,390
Back to us.
00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:16,102
I think it's important to remain flexible and that's just a small example, but like knowing our resources to overcome the adversity, we really try to break down each area to say, hey, here s some problem solving solutions or just ways to overcome it quicker.
00:24:16,246 --> 00:24:19,746
And I feel like it helps them in system play.
00:24:19,868 --> 00:24:39,030
How do you think that that compares with having the rock of what your system is? So if you're always problem solving or you have the ability to lean or dip or dodge in a different way, as opposed to, let's do what we do every single day.
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:56,266
Or is doing what you do every single day problem-solving? Are you more like chameleon based if you had to be some of a spirit animal?
00:24:56,338 --> 00:25:01,018
I think that whenever we look at the schedule of life right, it's ever-changing.And so it's really important and relating it back to season.
00:25:01,114 --> 00:25:07,942
So we get into season and we go straight in and everybody's super excited and they're fresh and they're healthy.
00:25:08,086 --> 00:25:12,934
And then you get to mid season and all of a sudden the academic workload gets a little bit heavier.
00:25:12,982 --> 00:25:15,666
You're starting to see more stress management needed.
00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:24,320
And like, athletes may be getting a little bit more physically, showing the need for more recovery time.
00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:29,478
And then towards the end of the season, that's when you're seeing all of it.
00:25:29,504 --> 00:25:33,318
Like you're seeing the physical injuries that may have been coming out.
00:25:33,404 --> 00:25:35,338
It's the academic workload.
00:25:35,494 --> 00:25:39,346
It could be any number of things that are ever changing.
00:25:39,418 --> 00:25:48,822
And so our practices, while we have core foundational work, it is meant to help them and deal with the stress management at hand.
00:25:48,956 --> 00:26:00,214
So we do our two-week progressions for our practice schedules, but we stay pretty flexible if needed for the needs of our student-athletes.
00:26:00,322 --> 00:26:18,870
If we're coming back from a road trip and they're super banged up, we may just be doing yoga for that first day back and working on we're going to hydrate, we're going to get with our athletic trainer and get that recovery, and we're doing yoga today.
00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:20,720
It just is need-based.
00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:21,774
00:26:21,932 --> 00:26:23,038
I like being flexible.
00:26:23,074 --> 00:26:24,966
I found that it's important to me.
00:26:25,088 --> 00:26:26,550
It didn't used to be that way.
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,038
And then I see this one instagram reel over and over.
00:26:31,184 --> 00:26:35,202
Kobe Bryant, who was like, I made a contract with myself.
00:26:35,276 --> 00:26:36,558
I made a promise to myself.
00:26:36,644 --> 00:26:42,454
And he's like, if you're too tired on one day, if you can't do it on one day, he goes, Nope, I'm not changing.
00:26:42,502 --> 00:26:45,018
Because this is what I said I would set out to do.
00:26:45,164 --> 00:27:10,220
And it's always like, where is that line of doing it? No matter what you are, where you're tired, when you're hurt, when there are problems and other things and other stressors going in your life, and can you just keep beating your head against the wall and eventually you're going to break that wall down? Or do you shift an ebb and flow and then if it's somewhere in the middle, which most likely that's where the answer is. Where do you find that line?
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:29,326
I love that mentality of having that discipline and things changed after COVID and our student athletes need a little bit more assistance and our colleagues need more assistance and just mental health and wellness.
00:27:29,458 --> 00:27:34,242
We have to be aware that it's important to listen to the need.
00:27:34,376 --> 00:27:36,322
It's no longer just about the skills.
00:27:36,406 --> 00:27:42,020
And so whenever you see when we talk about stress management and what that looks like.
00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:45,282
It's a wide range of needs going on right now.
00:27:45,416 --> 00:28:00,042
It's really hard to pass a ball when you didn't sleep the night before because you're stressed out about all these tests because of the workloads, and that's when your highest probability for injury whenever you're that fatigued out.
00:28:00,116 --> 00:28:08,970
And so I have definitely, over the years, become more aware of the needs of the student-athletes.
00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:21,510
It is important to have structure and going through that core foundational work and having your progressions, and yet there's always time to care and listen to the needs of the student-athlete.
00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:44,722
Do you think foundationally, that athletes everywhere, especially high school and college athletes, have come out severely weakened from Covid?
00:28:44,866 --> 00:28:46,366
Yeah, I think that first year back after COVID, you saw a ton of catastrophic injuries that were not normal. It just wasn't normal.
00:28:46,498 --> 00:29:05,326
Our season right after Covid, I was at a previous institution, and I was working with both indoor and beach, and on the indoor side, basically, you had a season that stopped, and then we started it again for the following spring.
00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:14,518
And so you had a lot of impact injuries, ankles, knees, hips, even shoulders of, like, just not having the normal reps of attacking.
00:29:14,674 --> 00:29:20,670
I think that we're much better than right after Covid, but I don't feel like we're out of the woods yet.
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:36,774
I think we're still kind of you have to continuously monitor those student athletes and the ones who kind of started right before COVID that got a year delay, those are the ones that were the most susceptible at that point.
00:29:36,932 --> 00:29:49,758
So I think it's just important to be aware and monitor and then try to establish that new norm for, okay, what's our standard of getting our core working?
00:29:49,784 --> 00:30:13,446
Yeah. And how do we get back and how fast do we get back? Because it's widely known, covered increased obesity rates quickly, increased levels of depression quickly, increased suicides quickly, all terrible things that are going to have consequences not only just currently, but down the road.
00:30:13,628 --> 00:30:17,082
And it was a complete awful thing.
00:30:17,216 --> 00:30:29,838
It's not as awful as the people who suffered the worst and suffered real family losses and the people who lost their lives from Covid, but we have to find a way to you can't just hit the ground running again.
00:30:29,924 --> 00:30:32,886
And I think a lot of people tried to do that.
00:30:33,008 --> 00:30:35,240
Maybe for us.
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:44,262
My stomach got fluffier than it ever did, but I also have a gym in my garage, so I built my own access point.
00:30:44,336 --> 00:30:55,230
And thank God I'm lucky enough to have space where I can have a squat rack to work out, because it's so weird to just sit there and do jump squats, like in your living room.
00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:58,446
In our online program, we have a 60 vertical lead program.
00:30:58,628 --> 00:31:14,982
People literally, they bought their interchangeable dumbbells, and we designed the program so that you could do it with any equipment, but they were literally doing weighted jump squats in their living rooms, and they still saw those vertical increases, but it took a lot of pushing them to get them moving.
00:31:15,056 --> 00:31:20,694
It took a lot of people together in one group showing, like in our Facebook group, we give a lot of support.
00:31:20,792 --> 00:31:23,070
So it's, Hey, I'm doing it.
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,046
Why aren't you doing it? Hey, that person's doing it in their dining room.
00:31:26,168 --> 00:31:26,646
00:31:26,708 --> 00:31:29,182
I guess if they're doing it in a dining room, I could do it on my porch.
00:31:29,266 --> 00:31:30,500
That's not so bad.
00:31:31,490 --> 00:31:39,582
But when you don't have those connected groups, you just lose out because you think, oh, well, it's not easy for everybody probably.
00:31:39,656 --> 00:31:41,814
So I'm not going to do it.
00:31:41,972 --> 00:31:42,366
00:31:42,428 --> 00:32:02,254
And I think that fight or flight, right? Are you going to fight for it or are you going to just hunker down and try to protect yourself? And there was a wide range of response during that time, and I think that even from your caretakers, whether it's your parents or your loved ones, everyone's response.
00:32:02,362 --> 00:32:04,242
We were just trying to do the best that we could.
00:32:04,316 --> 00:32:12,354
So for our student athletes, even now, it's just like any time flu season comes around this year, it was scary again.
00:32:12,452 --> 00:32:28,098
And so there was a fear of, like, hey, is season going to get canceled? And at that point, it's just reassuring that while that fear is real, we're not going to feed into it because it's out of our control and we're going to focus on what we can control.
00:32:28,184 --> 00:32:37,030
So we were able to get through a great season, and those student athletes, we were able to reassure them, I understand that fear.
00:32:37,090 --> 00:32:43,338
And yet sometimes when it's out of your control, you just have to have faith it's going to work out.
00:32:43,484 --> 00:32:45,140
Yeah, I like that.
00:32:47,390 --> 00:32:51,380
The fear that's bugging me right now is everybody now.
00:32:52,430 --> 00:33:00,610
The fear of all germs, of people, of groups are the most important thing in human society.
00:33:00,730 --> 00:33:05,194
Like, there's no lone wolf that successfully survived.
00:33:05,302 --> 00:33:06,334
No man is an island.
00:33:06,382 --> 00:33:09,140
You cannot survive on an island on your own.
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:11,770
You need groups.
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:22,530
And the fear that has been generated now from groups, from people connecting from just the world and your environment, man, I hope it goes away quick.
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:31,078
But you can still walk around and see the people who are really still, like, walking the earth very fearful.
00:33:31,174 --> 00:33:34,374
And I feel personally, like, bad for them.
00:33:34,412 --> 00:33:44,780
I want to help them and say it's okay, but you're also talking to somebody who doesn't use soap or shampoo when they shower, and it's totally fine with going two or three days without it.
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:48,990
Washing your hands, to me, is against health rules.
00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:56,326
I think there's a range there of just like, as it relates to our sport, we play a dirty sport.
00:33:56,398 --> 00:33:57,598
It's out on a beach.
00:33:57,754 --> 00:34:02,922
It's important to know that a lot of it is out of our control.
00:34:02,996 --> 00:34:05,502
But do what you can with what you have.
00:34:05,576 --> 00:34:29,374
And so if we are in our garage getting a great workout, that's what we have in that moment and to celebrate that moment for our student-athletes, whenever we were kind of going through it the season of just seeing the on the variant going through, we couldn't control if we were going to get shut down or not, but we went to work and we didn't live in fear.
00:34:29,422 --> 00:34:31,194
We had fun and we got better.
00:34:31,292 --> 00:34:39,726
So I think that if it's an outside element that you can't control, we're going to put it on the side and focus on what you can.
00:34:39,848 --> 00:34:55,726
Yeah, I'm having trouble with specifically for me, it's probably off topic, but the hand washing and the pure and hand sanitization that just went rampant all of a sudden.
00:34:55,798 --> 00:35:05,982
And then looking at the studies, and I did a deep dive into these studies, I go, this kind of makes sense because growing up, I was like they said in the army, you never wash your hands.
00:35:06,116 --> 00:35:11,430
You want to expose your body to different things without letting it completely take over.
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,398
And now I'm looking at all of these skin documentaries.
00:35:14,494 --> 00:35:24,318
They're saying every time you take a purell and alcohol wipe, you're killing your body's layers of germs that are meant to keep the other guys out.
00:35:24,464 --> 00:35:31,470
Like, your skin is porous, but it develops a little biome so that you can't let things in or they do their job.
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,038
And every time you clean and wipe your hands and destroy, that, like you're wiping all of those away.
00:35:37,124 --> 00:36:09,006
It is important for doctors whose hands are going into other people's bodies and getting through that, but a lot of these things that are coming out that I'm seeing every day are flying in the face of the whole like, hand washing thing where you actually kind of destroying your skin's own ability to fight things away and seeing I have never accepted the little alcohol wipe from the airline agents.
00:36:09,068 --> 00:36:13,890
I'm like, no, I'm not putting my hands in anybody else's body or mouth.
00:36:14,330 --> 00:36:36,682
I think it's very thought provoking and whenever as it relates to our collegiate and student athlete level, that's something that is just we have our athletic trainers and we talk about the hygiene and the newest of alignment with CDC.
00:36:36,766 --> 00:36:45,246
So because we're an institution, it's a little bit different than just training out at a professional level.
00:36:45,368 --> 00:36:56,526
So as of right now, we do recommend and we stay with our athletic trainer for the latest advice and man, even this year it changed multiple times.
00:36:56,588 --> 00:37:03,598
So I think it's important, like anything that we remain flexible so we can have the best outcome.
00:37:03,754 --> 00:37:08,826
And you have to you have to go with the best information you have available to you currently.
00:37:09,008 --> 00:37:19,110
And the people who are yelling at everybody else, they've seen different information sets than you have, so they're going to have a different opinion.
00:37:20,330 --> 00:37:21,478
It's a little bit socky.
00:37:21,514 --> 00:37:25,386
That information comes from a million different sources right now.
00:37:25,508 --> 00:37:29,382
And in general, I understand where it's going.
00:37:29,576 --> 00:37:30,320
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:32,682
And locally, it's just different.
00:37:32,816 --> 00:37:37,606
How it is in California is different than Missouri, which is different than Florida.
00:37:37,678 --> 00:37:45,270
And coast to coast, it's not consistent across the board just yet.
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:52,134
But I think, again, it's important to remain flexible and it's to the needs of that area.
00:37:52,292 --> 00:38:01,950
I think that's a brilliant point because they are new York City versus upstate New York versus somewhere in rural Oklahoma.
00:38:02,570 --> 00:38:07,820
You're having one person at the top generate rules that are supposed to blanket the entire thing.
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:11,298
But yeah, everybody's in a different situation.
00:38:11,384 --> 00:38:18,006
And that's not just for this covid thing, but that's for a lot of things in policy and everything.
00:38:18,068 --> 00:38:23,998
So that's a very smart and interesting point, that it's tough to apply all those different roles.
00:38:24,034 --> 00:38:28,100
I guess that's why we have governors and mayors, so they have some freedom within there.
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:30,690
Anyway, back to volleyball.
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:43,626
All right, so we went to basically the most important mental attribute that you noted was problem solving and then being the positive force on your team.
00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:52,880
And I think some people, just as a warning, some people think that there being a positive force by yelling at somebody else or telling somebody else that they're doing something wrong.
00:38:53,450 --> 00:39:03,330
That can be a version, but I think the positive force will always play to people's strengths better if you can be neutral with your speech or positive.
00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:21,978
We have a problem with this at camps in our classes where you have a somewhat more experienced player or somebody who just heard what the coach said and they see another player doing it incorrectly, like partner coaching, and I always get to stop them.
00:39:22,004 --> 00:39:25,818
I go, Hey, guess what, everybody? You guys all have the day off.
00:39:25,844 --> 00:39:31,820
And they get confused and I go, none of you have to coach today because you hired me to do it.
00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:39,906
And this is like real tough with husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, where I'm doing a private lesson for the two of them and it's like their coupled date.
00:39:40,028 --> 00:39:54,090
And one of them, you could just see the pressure that they're putting on the other one, and it's like, hey, I'm going to try to do it just this way, so can you just let me work in here a little bit and I'll try to see if I can get through it my way.
00:39:54,260 --> 00:39:55,530
And that's tough.
00:39:55,850 --> 00:39:56,466
00:39:56,588 --> 00:40:11,722
So do you allow or encourage coaching within teammates? How do you mitigate or promote that?
00:40:11,866 --> 00:40:38,386
Well, I think it's always important to support that line of communication. We want to bring out each other's best, and how we communicate with each other on the court is kind of like, what do you need? How can I help? And so, just for basics, if it's a serve receive drill, and we're working on that, first of all, contact for that transition set, like where can we put that set for our attacker? That's going to be the most efficient.
00:40:38,458 --> 00:40:48,190
So working on that feedback and working on the communication of like, hey, we're always going to be giving some type of feedback.
00:40:48,250 --> 00:41:14,434
So whether it's the type of survey that's coming at us, if it's a close calls, if it's going to be an outcall, making sure that we give enough time for our teammates to make that response, and then for the set of, like, set location and giving feedback after it's complete, like, hey, that was a great set, so we can give that positive reinforcement to our teammates to make sure that we can produce it more consistently.
00:41:14,602 --> 00:41:21,330
So I think that as it relates to coaching, we have a great coaching staff with a lot of knowledge.
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:28,002
If it's a movement that needs to be corrected, that's one thing that the coaches are happy to help with.
00:41:28,136 --> 00:41:39,862
But if it's feedback on how do we help each other, make it easier for each other to do their job, we want to encourage them on how to communicate and give that feedback.
00:41:39,946 --> 00:41:51,202
Like, if the path is too tight and it's becoming a trap on the net, we want the seller to give feedback of, hey, let's pull that ball off just a couple of balls.
00:41:51,286 --> 00:41:52,374
Give me a little room to work.
00:41:52,412 --> 00:41:58,318
Really? You would say that after that? That's when I tell them I call that a no S-H-I-T comment.
00:41:58,474 --> 00:42:07,100
Like, when you see a passer pass literally into the net and the setter hits the net wall setting, and they say, you got to pass that off, to me, it's like, no.
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:22,550
But sometimes, especially with newer programs or newer learners, sometimes they don't realize that the path looked great and then all of a sudden you had wind on your back and the ball blew two more ball spaces.
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:26,640
It started out great and it was a higher pass and maybe the wind took it.
00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:39,286
It could be that we need to talk about the elements at that point, but if there is some open dialogue that can help our play become a little easier, we want to support each other in that.
00:42:39,468 --> 00:42:43,382
I've just always found that we'll call it no crap.
00:42:43,406 --> 00:42:48,130
I don't know who's listening or if I don't have a curse on my own podcast, but we'll call like the no crap comment.
00:42:48,990 --> 00:42:55,690
When you set somebody tight and the blocker literally grabs at the same time as the hitter, and the hitter goes, set me off, dude.
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:57,730
Yeah, no kidding.
00:42:59,790 --> 00:43:14,674
Why are you even saying that at this point? And I found that when you give that feedback after that mistake, where it's an obvious mistake, and then you say, Correct it, I found that that shuts down communication more than anything.
00:43:14,772 --> 00:43:20,834
And instead, at least at my level, I know that they know that that's tight.
00:43:21,002 --> 00:43:24,106
And I'll say, Hey, I'll fix it.
00:43:24,168 --> 00:43:26,906
But yeah, perfect for me is 4ft.
00:43:27,038 --> 00:43:30,758
I don't say, set me off, that was too tight.
00:43:30,794 --> 00:43:32,918
I don't accuse their last action.
00:43:33,014 --> 00:43:35,146
I say what's perfect for me.
00:43:35,208 --> 00:43:38,434
And for me, 4ft from the net is my perfect set.
00:43:38,472 --> 00:43:45,986
And so that's how I'll interpret, I'll fix it, but 4ft perfect for me.
00:43:46,108 --> 00:43:46,430
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:57,314
And I would say, well, if we can't set each other tight, was it the pass? Was it the pass that was too tight in the first place? So we really tried to break down the movements of the why.
00:43:57,472 --> 00:44:02,730
And our goal is not to have the same thing happen twice.
00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:05,250
So we're going to be constant learners on the court.
00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:16,658
If we had an outcome, then, okay, well, let's pass to a new location, maybe let's run a backplay or a different tempo set.
00:44:16,744 --> 00:44:22,718
But there's always a solution that we don't have to repeat that same action unless it's the outcome that we want.
00:44:22,864 --> 00:44:25,602
I kind of like that Tetris.
00:44:25,746 --> 00:44:26,270
00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:30,050
Well, with me, I think I do that.
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,314
I go to that after two or three sales.
00:44:33,472 --> 00:44:34,180
00:44:35,110 --> 00:44:39,350
If everything was good and I just made some kind of mistake, I go, give me that same ball again.
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:46,250
I'm going to fix that now because I need to establish this, and then I'll go and do the other things.
00:44:46,300 --> 00:45:00,518
And I think defensively, getting to recognize the really macho dudes on the other side of the court who gets stopped one way, they usually back down quickly and they go the complete opposite way.
00:45:00,544 --> 00:45:08,210
So if we stuff somebody down the line, they're either going to hit hard cross or they're going to shoot the next ball.
00:45:09,010 --> 00:45:14,958
Whereas I think a lot of people go, No, I'm going to go back to that because I know that that's my good swing.
00:45:15,114 --> 00:45:20,620
So I need to have that good swing as part of the statistical set here to keep the defense honest.
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:25,370
And absolutely, you can reinforce that and have that confidence.
00:45:25,930 --> 00:45:30,342
And I would say that there's probably something just to have that confidence.
00:45:30,426 --> 00:45:36,410
You still made an unknown adjustment right, to create that outcome.
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:48,590
So that's what we're trying to get them to recognize, okay, it doesn't have to be big, but we're not going to give that same ball the same experience.
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:52,010
We're going to make a slight adjustment to get the outcome that we want.
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:55,900
And if you can crank online, do it.
00:45:56,350 --> 00:46:01,958
But if we made an error on a ball down the line, I want you to go back after it.
00:46:01,984 --> 00:46:06,810
But what's the adjustment is it keeping your body neutral so we're not over rotating.
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:14,234
If we hit the ball out wide a little bit, there's usually some kind of adjustment that can be made to get the outcome that you want.
00:46:14,332 --> 00:46:16,338
That's a fantastic counter.
00:46:16,494 --> 00:46:17,574
We're making adjustments.
00:46:17,622 --> 00:46:23,382
But if I got stuffed going across, maybe it's because I went too low, or maybe it's just because I turned.
00:46:23,406 --> 00:46:24,714
You can still go hard cross.
00:46:24,762 --> 00:46:29,378
You can still have the same swing just an alteration of how you did it.
00:46:29,404 --> 00:46:31,840
You just stay higher next time.
00:46:32,590 --> 00:46:33,340
00:46:34,090 --> 00:46:34,730
00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:39,634
You should be in debate class.
00:46:39,682 --> 00:46:42,150
Not debating. We actually agreed pretty good.
00:46:42,260 --> 00:46:43,086
Yeah, I think so.
00:46:43,148 --> 00:46:43,770
00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:46,100
And we whittled it down to a perfect answer.
00:46:46,430 --> 00:46:46,794
00:46:46,832 --> 00:46:47,790
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:53,202
Okay, so next then, what do you think as a player? Because you played pro.
00:46:53,276 --> 00:46:55,710
Did you ever play pro indoor? I apologize for that.
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,138
I did not know when I finished.
00:46:58,174 --> 00:47:01,914
I finished my athletic career with University of Missouri, St.
00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:02,602
00:47:02,746 --> 00:47:07,426
And before, when I graduated, there was no beach volleyball.
00:47:07,498 --> 00:47:15,130
I was in the middle of the country, and beach volleyball was not a college level at that time, but I didn't want to be finished.
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:19,270
And I had my dear friend Kelly Renee Hickam.
00:47:19,330 --> 00:47:20,578
She's now Finney.
00:47:20,734 --> 00:47:22,338
She was my first teammate out of St.
00:47:22,364 --> 00:47:23,314
00:47:23,422 --> 00:47:26,238
We teamed up for about seven years total.
00:47:26,324 --> 00:47:28,014
We were brave enough to start in St.
00:47:28,052 --> 00:47:28,822
00:47:28,906 --> 00:47:34,160
We played the AVPs, the Jose Quarrels, the King of the beach, you name it.
00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:36,090
We just wanted to play.
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:50,386
And so we traveled Midwest based for quite some time, and then we were brave, and we pursued our dreams, and we moved out to California, and that's when we got into the AVPs and traveling internationally, and just really we were blessed.
00:47:50,458 --> 00:47:53,890
Sometimes you'd rather be lucky than good, but a nice balance of both helps.
00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:57,414
So we were able to compete for quite some time now.
00:47:57,572 --> 00:48:03,666
I was out in California competing, and I had many pathways that brought me to this point.
00:48:03,728 --> 00:48:09,538
What do you think was at that time when you're making that move, you're going from Midwest now you're going to AVP now you're progressing AVP.
00:48:09,634 --> 00:48:22,374
What were you disappointed in? That you think too long to learn where you just wish you would have picked that up, or you wish somebody would have just given you that easy answer that you spent too long figuring it out.
00:48:22,412 --> 00:48:23,922
Did you have any of those?
00:48:23,996 --> 00:48:33,462
Sure. I think especially for all those athletes in the Midwest for so long, especially when I was going through my beach career, it was that, Oh, you can't do that.
00:48:33,536 --> 00:48:34,386
You can't do that.
00:48:34,448 --> 00:48:36,538
There's no beaches in Missouri.
00:48:36,694 --> 00:48:37,770
You shouldn't do that.
00:48:37,820 --> 00:48:40,954
You should go, and you should get, like, the cans, the won't, the don'ts.
00:48:41,002 --> 00:48:43,350
You want to eliminate that negative talk.
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,430
That doesn't apply.
00:48:44,540 --> 00:48:58,026
So I would say if you have a dream and you want to go and pursue whatever it is to go for it and to be brave, I had to overcome a lot of fear just, like, failure of, like, oh, well, what if I move out to California? And it's not what I thought.
00:48:58,088 --> 00:49:01,818
Wherever you go, there you are, and you're supposed to be there in that moment.
00:49:01,904 --> 00:49:05,610
So I would encourage student-athletes to be brave and go for it.
00:49:05,660 --> 00:49:14,694
I'm excited for beach volleyball, where it's growing for both the women's side and the men's side and our pro side, and there's room enough for everyone.
00:49:14,792 --> 00:49:20,266
So if you want to do it, you should go out and do it and quiet the cance, the won'ts, the don'ts.
00:49:20,338 --> 00:49:27,982
So you think that the thing that slowed you down the most was the hesitation to actually go out and be in a volleyball environment.
00:49:28,066 --> 00:49:29,854
And volleyball environments now are getting bigger.
00:49:29,902 --> 00:49:34,090
They're becoming a lot more pockets where you can still be successful.
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:39,450
That still might mean, hey, it's 4 hours from your home instead of across the country.
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:47,878
I know right next to you guys now there's big beautiful facility, beach volleyball, Ozark, and they've got ten indoor courts in this gigantic bubble.
00:49:47,914 --> 00:49:49,278
And that was when I walked into it.
00:49:49,304 --> 00:49:53,394
We ran a clinic there and when I walked into it, I said, this is what I want.
00:49:53,552 --> 00:49:59,670
I looked at it, you guys did what I want to have and it's such a beautiful place.
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:15,894
But now they built that without having an environment or a culture already established, which is a little bit wacky to me because in Utah, for example, the guy in Salt Lake City, Core Meryl, who owns that facility, he ran leagues in a park for two years and they were all sold out.
00:50:15,932 --> 00:50:16,882
They didn't have enough courts.
00:50:16,906 --> 00:50:20,910
So he was able to go to a bank and be like, look, here's the size of my waiting list.
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,782
I can't get enough people in.
00:50:22,856 --> 00:50:24,354
So this is why I want to build this.
00:50:24,392 --> 00:50:25,702
And here's the financials.
00:50:25,786 --> 00:50:30,022
And so he built the community before he built the facility.
00:50:30,166 --> 00:50:37,470
And now before I bought horses, they're like Kevin Costner and they're just building it and they're not hoping that people are going to come.
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,034
They are grabbing people and saying, come here, come here, come here.
00:50:41,072 --> 00:50:43,390
Getting corporates, getting people to come in and run clinics.
00:50:43,450 --> 00:50:50,122
And for our clinic, we had somebody who drove 16 hours, literally he drove 16 hours to get there because it's a nine hour clinic.
00:50:50,146 --> 00:50:51,654
We go ham with our training days.
00:50:51,692 --> 00:50:53,346
But that's how you build it.
00:50:53,408 --> 00:51:04,230
And I think people have to continue to understand that a community, whatever you want for a sport like beach volleyball or anything else, you have to have an active hand in building your own community.
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:05,794
And that takes effort.
00:51:05,962 --> 00:51:10,774
But I don't think you have to have to have to go out to California anymore.
00:51:10,822 --> 00:51:14,394
I just think it's easier because there are so many players out there.
00:51:14,492 --> 00:51:30,090
What's so beautiful about our sport is that every area is different, right? So the California style of play and that investment of time, it's where your legacies are at because it's been developed for so long there.
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:36,454
And then when you go to Florida and it's South Florida play, it's a melting pot of culture.
00:51:36,562 --> 00:51:53,182
And it's so cool to see the Brazilian influence, to see all these outside various cultures that come into the South Florida style play and the different tempos and then the Midwest, I feel like, is that physicality?
00:51:53,206 --> 00:51:57,330
It's a Florida small ball. The slow handsets, the slow ball.
00:51:58,190 --> 00:52:02,540
You can see a Florida player just by how they play.
00:52:04,010 --> 00:52:08,454
Everywhere you go, there's these different tendencies that you can pick up on.
00:52:08,492 --> 00:52:24,834
And I'm so thankful that I've been able to travel and meet the amazing beach players that we have because everybody contributes a different type of influence and style, and it really can help you be an active learner for life if you're just open to it.
00:52:24,872 --> 00:52:28,666
So travel and play and get to know different coaches.
00:52:28,738 --> 00:52:33,282
I feel like the more coaches that you can surround yourself with, that knowledge is power.
00:52:33,356 --> 00:52:41,718
And for where the Midwest is growing to, we are creating that opportunity that most did not previously have.
00:52:41,804 --> 00:52:47,610
When the Silvara family with the volleyball beach in Ozark, they're passionate and they did build it.
00:52:47,660 --> 00:52:52,338
And people are coming in from all over, and the Springfield area, they are building it.
00:52:52,364 --> 00:52:53,542
We're building more courts.
00:52:53,626 --> 00:52:58,110
And the Midwest will become a powerhouse in a great way, in a different way.
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,114
It doesn't have to be like west coast or East Coast.
00:53:01,222 --> 00:53:02,502
It's okay to be different.
00:53:02,636 --> 00:53:05,202
So I'm excited where we're growing, too.
00:53:05,336 --> 00:53:05,634
00:53:05,672 --> 00:53:08,010
And they can become something.
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:22,666
If you recruit the right people to your team, you can become sort of like what I always compare things to the indoor club in Illinois sports performance, where they really illinois had no business being a hotbed for recruiting as far as volleyball.
00:53:22,738 --> 00:53:28,006
But one club and then a few other clubs that started around it just said, we have a systematic approach.
00:53:28,078 --> 00:53:29,182
We know how to run a club.
00:53:29,206 --> 00:53:31,914
We know how to coach our coaches, and our coach coach our way.
00:53:32,012 --> 00:53:35,382
And it's a very progressive system.
00:53:35,456 --> 00:53:46,074
When you get into their club and they built now a whole environment, that when you hear about players from Illinois, okay, now I'm interested in going there to recruit, and I think that's what the Savara family is doing as well.
00:53:46,112 --> 00:53:52,018
They're going to see that, you know what, there is a ten court facility there, and there's nothing else to do in Missouri.
00:53:52,054 --> 00:53:55,340
So if they're playing beach volleyball, I bet they're doing it 10 hours a day.
00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:58,678
Well, it's an investment.
00:53:58,834 --> 00:54:00,366
It's investment of time.
00:54:00,428 --> 00:54:01,722
It's investment of money.
00:54:01,796 --> 00:54:11,574
And I think that if you want to practice your craft and become the best at it, then you have to be willing to sacrifice what it takes to get the outcome that you want.
00:54:11,672 --> 00:54:17,650
So a lot of times our student athletes will say, I want to earn a competition team spot.
00:54:17,710 --> 00:54:20,254
Okay, and let's create that pathway.
00:54:20,302 --> 00:54:29,890
What does that look like and what areas do we need to improve and how can we get you on that pathway? The quickest is that we do have to sacrifice during season.
00:54:29,950 --> 00:54:33,630
Our social life, that's just making it a priority.
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:41,154
It's not even have to we get to because the get to is man, not everybody gets this opportunity.
00:54:41,312 --> 00:54:45,486
We get to do this together, and it's fun to see that investment grow.
00:54:45,548 --> 00:55:00,942
It bugs me when somebody wants that other spot and they show up to the practices and then while doing the same amount of practice as somebody else, they're there in the gym for the same amount of hours, they're there for the same lifts, and they don't put in the outside film time.
00:55:01,016 --> 00:55:04,710
They don't stay after their practice and jump serve for however long.
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:11,758
They don't come 30, 40 minutes before practice and then serve and pass and dig against the wall when you show up to practice.
00:55:11,794 --> 00:55:17,286
If you're a part of a team, you are currently doing the bare minimum to be on the team.
00:55:17,348 --> 00:55:20,398
You're not doing the maximum to have a starting role.
00:55:20,554 --> 00:55:23,694
It's the extra repetitions and time.
00:55:23,792 --> 00:55:30,454
I think 99% of athletes don't understand, and that's why the 1% will always trump them athletically and skillfully.
00:55:30,622 --> 00:55:36,958
And I think that as it relates to that college experience, that's uniquely different than club.
00:55:37,054 --> 00:55:50,334
Like, whenever you're going into your college years and you're transitioning into the disciplines, it's not about mom and dad staying on you to do your work, you do have to become more self motivated, and time management is real.
00:55:50,432 --> 00:56:03,450
And to max out your abilities on the court, it does take that I am putting my phone down, I'm going to bed early, I'm going to get up early, complete homework, like make sure my nutrition, my meals are ready to go.
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:11,470
I'm going to every single class, and I'm going to outperform in both academics and on court, and I'm going to be an outstanding citizen.
00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:13,110
It's connecting the dots.
00:56:13,550 --> 00:56:14,962
Success is not a fluke.
00:56:15,046 --> 00:56:16,510
It's not a fluke whatsoever.
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:24,094
And so if you can figure out how to be successful in the classroom, it's going to help you be successful on the court.
00:56:24,142 --> 00:56:28,722
It's going to help you be successful in your profession after the next step.
00:56:28,796 --> 00:56:33,786
So right now, we are learning how to connect the dots for the success.
00:56:33,908 --> 00:56:39,750
And there are tremendous commonalities that will work for each individual and as a program.
00:56:39,860 --> 00:56:44,970
While you were saying that, my mind started going towards being prepared outside work.
00:56:45,020 --> 00:56:51,258
And then I thought two and three years before that for myself, I started lifting when I was 14, for sure.
00:56:51,284 --> 00:57:00,894
I was doing push ups, sprints, agility, but I started lifting my freshman year, and that was on top of now all of the little agility drills that I was doing on my own in middle school.
00:57:00,992 --> 00:57:02,802
So I was equipped in the weight room.
00:57:02,816 --> 00:57:06,258
I already knew how to power lift an Olympic lift by the time I got to college.
00:57:06,344 --> 00:57:16,122
The word that I want to use is going to sound mean, but I'm embarrassed for people who show up to a Division One program or scholarship program and have never lifted, have never put the weight room.
00:57:16,136 --> 00:57:24,222
I used to say, if you're going to get a Division One scholarship, you should have to have some sort of measurement of hours logged in a weight room.
00:57:24,296 --> 00:57:32,418
Because I saw specifically from being a guy in a Division One volleyball program and seeing how much went into it and how hard we worked.
00:57:32,444 --> 00:57:41,454
And then we saw a lot of people on the women's team where there were twelve scholarships and they're giving away the type of athlete that was getting this scholarship was just so low.
00:57:41,492 --> 00:57:44,754
And you know that they haven't touched a weight, they haven't been in a weight room.
00:57:44,792 --> 00:57:45,742
And it was admitted.
00:57:45,766 --> 00:58:00,214
And I was like, how can you get to a Division One program and never put in the work in the weight room? And never said, I need to get stronger and faster? I'm always embarrassed for the people who haven't put in that little extra time but are somehow gifted a scholarship.
00:58:00,262 --> 00:58:10,866
And do you take that into account when you're recruiting players? Like, do you have any experience in the weight room? Does it bother you when a player does or doesn't? And I know personally I get fired up about it.
00:58:10,928 --> 00:58:23,526
Yeah, I think it's concerning because you want to make sure that your student athlete is coming in prepared to take competition and be ready to go to the stronger that you can have your body be ready to perform.
00:58:23,648 --> 00:58:27,426
It's going to as an individual and as a program, it's going to make all of us better.
00:58:27,488 --> 00:58:34,462
So we definitely are proactive with making sure that we are including the strength and conditioning.
00:58:34,546 --> 00:58:38,134
We have a strength and conditioning coach on staff and athletic trainer on staff.
00:58:38,182 --> 00:58:45,286
The student athletes can help develop their programs, but also we do additional speed, agility training and footwork.
00:58:45,358 --> 00:58:48,598
There's just so many opportunities for growth.
00:58:48,634 --> 00:58:48,906
00:58:48,968 --> 00:59:04,182
And so I think just energy-wise, by promoting it and knowing that it's a value and voicing that before those student-athletes even come in, that they know that they are going to be doing those workouts, that they're a little bit more proactive, I think it's a little bit different as well.
00:59:04,256 --> 00:59:11,358
I'm sure it does still happen, but I don't know too many of my incoming recruits that are not because I'm forcing them to.
00:59:11,444 --> 00:59:12,426
They do it on their own.
00:59:12,488 --> 00:59:14,542
They're already self motivated.
00:59:14,626 --> 00:59:14,946
00:59:15,008 --> 00:59:19,002
And so overall health and wellness, there's so much availability now. Back in our days, the previous student-athletes just didn't have those resources.
00:59:19,076 --> 00:59:32,586
For the players who and I see this on juniors, I never knew it was a thing, but juniors will take their senior season off and they won't play or they won't put in.
00:59:32,648 --> 00:59:40,842
And this is coming from club coaches and close personal friends who go, I can't stand coaching seventeens because they're checked out.
00:59:40,916 --> 00:59:54,894
They don't put an effort because either they have their D-1 scholarship or they have their school already, and they claim that they don't want to get hurt or they're already set or they don't have that, and they're so demotivated at that point.
00:59:54,932 --> 01:00:00,166
And then the third athlete is the one who didn't care to move up a level in the first place, so they don't have that growth.
01:00:00,238 --> 01:00:27,198
Mindset as a coach who spends time recruiting players to your program, are you disgusted like I would be at people who would take off their junior or senior year before they get to your program? Or are you like, thank God I'm preserving my financial investment from my program?
01:00:27,284 --> 01:00:35,862
I think that every coach is different, but for me, I want my student-athletes to be healthy and in shape and ready to come in and be high impact for any program. And so that doesn't even really register in my mind of taking a year off, because we already saw what Kova did to us by taking a year off.
01:00:35,996 --> 01:00:46,390
And to me, I want my student-athletes to have the disciplines and the physicality that it's going to take to help build a powerhouse.
01:00:46,450 --> 01:00:50,346
And so if it's not reflective of that, then that's not our plan.
01:00:50,408 --> 01:00:55,866
We talk about our pathways for success and even the recruits of what they're currently doing.
01:00:55,928 --> 01:00:58,194
Again, that's just not even an option.
01:00:58,292 --> 01:00:59,886
They're taking off that time.
01:01:00,008 --> 01:01:02,886
It's time to go to work, and it's time to have that.
01:01:02,948 --> 01:01:04,726
Work means many categories.
01:01:04,798 --> 01:01:21,274
It's like, okay, the stress management work, where's your recovery at, your hydration, your nutrition, where is your on court work, where's your academic work? And it's not, Oh, I have to we get to man and, like, not everybody gets a D-1 scholarship.
01:01:21,442 --> 01:01:26,122
Not everyone gets a scholarship on any level to play college ball.
01:01:26,206 --> 01:01:27,250
That is an honor.
01:01:27,310 --> 01:01:30,022
And there's so many different pathways to get to compete.
01:01:30,046 --> 01:01:35,514
Now, to me, if I'm a student-athlete in high school, I would say, go after it and earn what you want.
01:01:35,552 --> 01:01:38,502
Like, there's a spot for you to compete, but you have to earn it.
01:01:38,516 --> 01:01:39,150
It's not given.
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:44,082
Why do you think that's happening then? Why do you think well, I do have two questions before I forget it.
01:01:44,096 --> 01:01:47,554
I want to say you don't have to answer this one yet, but I'll say it out loud so we don't forget.
01:01:47,662 --> 01:02:11,386
Number one, do you have the power to remove somebody's scholarship if you get a report of them just essentially taking mentally off while still being a part of their club team? And the second is, why is this happening? Why are there so many players that they think that they're done once they've gotten their college scholarship?
01:02:11,458 --> 01:02:12,822
I just think it's mindset I think that it's not about earning a spot on the college roster anymore. That's not the end result.
01:02:12,956 --> 01:02:17,002
I think that used to be the end result of like, hey, I'm just going to earn a scholarship.
01:02:17,086 --> 01:02:19,806
And that, for whatever reason, was the stopping point.
01:02:19,868 --> 01:02:24,858
And once they earned it, maybe at that point that's where they thought that it was complete.
01:02:24,944 --> 01:02:27,006
That's actually just a new starting point.
01:02:27,068 --> 01:02:32,470
And that new starting point is like, okay, we've earned a position into college competition.
01:02:32,590 --> 01:02:33,150
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:39,210
Now my next stepping stone is going to be earning a competition spot in the top one through five.
01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:47,178
Or my next stepping stone is, okay, I just graduated from college with my undergraduate degree, and I want to pursue a professional level.
01:02:47,264 --> 01:02:57,058
Okay, so now what's your pathway for mapping out the tournaments you're going to focus on? So to me, there's always a new starting point, and we're not meant to be finished until we're 6ft.
01:02:57,094 --> 01:02:59,674
Under man, I want to keep improving.
01:02:59,722 --> 01:03:03,010
I want to keep challenging, and I think that growth mindset.
01:03:03,070 --> 01:03:19,186
If you can be forward thinking of like, okay, this is just the very next step of really cool stuff and get excited and be motivated about that fun opportunity, keep challenging yourself because the end result is no longer, oh, I'm going to get to play Collegiate Beach.
01:03:19,258 --> 01:03:21,438
That should just be another starting point.
01:03:21,524 --> 01:03:24,670
And now there's new disciplines that have to be implemented.
01:03:24,730 --> 01:03:24,990
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:36,598
One of my best friends, Pat Santiago, who just got the head coach job at Columbia, he talked about, like, once you hear that you got accepted to a college or you got a spot on a college team, now is not the time to let off the throttle.
01:03:36,634 --> 01:03:38,994
He goes, now is when you floor it.
01:03:39,092 --> 01:03:40,926
He goes, all right, we're going.
01:03:40,988 --> 01:03:42,370
Now it's full throttle.
01:03:42,430 --> 01:03:44,094
And every new thing, it goes.
01:03:44,132 --> 01:03:45,994
You have to push the accelerator harder.
01:03:46,042 --> 01:03:46,650
You really do.
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And I don't think people are willing to say that you're building your engine along the way so that it has the ability to push harder.
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You're building your work capacity.
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You're building your tolerance for pain and your time management skills to be able to have more room in the accelerator.
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But at each new level you reach, you are pushing the accelerator down another inch, and along the way, it's like you got your foot on the accelerator and you're working on your engine at the exact same time so that it will move faster.
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Yeah, I think that it's okay not to be comfortable, and that's part of that learning process.
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And when we're getting challenged and we're learning, it's not a narrow progression up.
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Sometimes you're going and it's the scenic route, but either way, to have that patience and faith, tying it back in, it's like just like keep grinding out.
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That's part of the adventure and the fun, and then all of a sudden you reach a new high level of, I didn't know I was capable.
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Well, now you do.
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So now what? And looking forward to the new challenge.
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And I think that that's part of why I love beach volleyball.
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I love coaching.
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It is because it's never the same, because there's always new teammates, new athletes that I'm working with, and there's always a way to help.
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New emotions, new problems.
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There's so much nuance to the game, to coaching, and like you said, you're experiencing as a college coach now, like, coming out of COVID, you have an entirely new set of problems to deal with and no one else has ever figured out before.
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Figure out how to do that and surround yourself with the team and get advice from people and try to soak in as much of the best information as you can and move forward with it.
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And I'm thankful that we get to right.
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So we could be doing something else.
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And instead, I truly believe that beach volleyball is the greatest sport out there.
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I truly believe the lifestyle sport, the friends, the family, the relationships that you build can last an entire lifetime.
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And I have had more love and joy in my life because of the sport.
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I'm thankful that I'm in a position I can give back to my community.
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And we really try to have fun in the process of just like, where is this adventure going and just taking those moments.
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I think beach is so magic as a lifestyle sport because you can show up anywhere and within the span of a vacation, you can make friends that you could hang out with for multiple hours, and then even after the playtime, you continue to hang out with them.
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Like, you go to a beach resort and you try to find people to connect to.
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But beach volleyball players, we wave a flag saying, like, we are beach volleyball.
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Come join us.
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And you already know that you have a built in family.
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As soon as you get to a new city on vacation for a short amount of time, it's not frequent.
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Or if you say, like, I'm a baseball or I'm a softball player, that you can just go to a resort or go to a new city and find a walk up softball game that you can get next on.
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We have a really special sport in that way.
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I think tennis is similar to walk up to a court and just randomly find a pickup game.
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But sometimes basketball is just a little bit brutal socially.
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I think one of the greatest compliments that I had from a student athlete through the connections that we had made over the years, coach, I know I can go play anywhere in the world and I have a friend.
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I think that is the way that we now connect our sport anywhere in the world.
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And, man, what a beautiful thought.
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So I love the competition.
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I also love the relationship that you can build over the years, and it just keeps getting better and better.
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Brandon makes exactly that speech.
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Every one of our campsos, every single camp, we come in as strangers and we leave as family.
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You're able to call anyone from any one of our camps that you met there and be like, hey, I got a work trip for two days in Chicago.
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Is anybody playing? And the people in our facebook group, they'll just jump onto it like, you could stay here, you could stay here.
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We have people now met at our camps that are just literally staying at each other's houses around the country and playing together.
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And it's so cool to see how those connections and they help you in so many other areas in life.
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Like, once you build that first bridge through sport, then all of a sudden you can turn that into other stuff.
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I've met through volleyball.
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I've met people who have made me much better in business or in real estate, and now I've partnered with three different people who I met through beach volleyball and real estate deals.
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It's like, cool.
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That was the bridge that we love, and we know we have this common bond, and now we can figure out what other ways we can to succeed together.
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It's a magic sport, man.
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Well, Gretchen, I don't want to hold you too long, and I'm not even halfway through the things with you that I want to talk about.
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So I'm wondering if we could do this again together at another point, maybe deeper into your off season and maybe recruiting during the summer and see how it's going.
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Is there anything that you want to say or share? We have your links.
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We have the link to your in the show notes.
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You'll see the links to Gretchen's coaching profile, the Missouri state bears beach volleyball squad, and her Instagram, which is coach Gretchen Hand.
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Are you doing anything with that Instagram? Is that just a great place to reach out to you in case somebody have questions?
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I am not the most social media savvy. I'm learning and I'm improving.
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If you reach out to me on Instagram or you send me an email, I try to get back with urgency by just getting out of season.
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I'm playing catch up for sure on my emails and instagram accounts.
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So if you're a student-athlete reaching out to Missouri state university beach volleyball, we look forward to speaking with you when it's when we're able to allow it for NCAA.
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But as far as where we are growing to Missouri state university has fully invested in beach volleyball, and we're so excited to see us grow in the years to come.
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I'm excited for you.
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I can't wait to see Missouri become a new volleyball hopper, which it seems like it's en route with new facilities, a program, got a great coach in charge, and I think you guys are building some more courts by the airport, which is crazy.
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You guys are going to have 25 courts within like 30 miles or something.
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It's been an incredible year in the city of springfield.
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We had our first ever gun serving hoses, and that was the police versus the firefighters.
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It was awesome.
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And the firefighters were straight fire, and the police officers who were not messing around, they were very serious.
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And next year we're going to open it up to statewide.
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And in year three, we're going national, baby.
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So everybody will be welcome.
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All of our first responders is an incredible community event, but we've been so well received and loved in the community.
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We are growing our sports.
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The city is helping with putting in more community support for bigger venue events.
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So we're excited.
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We've got a lot of great things happening.
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You'll hear hopefully some more wonderful stuff here in the near future.
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I got two brothers on the Fbny team in New York, and so they go to the World Police and Fire games every couple of years, and they do throw that match, but I think you got to title it better.
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Like you guys do gun surfing, hoses.
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There was a trophy involved in a lot of bragging rights.
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The fire department took it in year one, of course.
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That's what we do.
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Had that honor. Yes.
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And it was elbows were being brought, for sure.
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I mean, we don't sit in cars.
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We scale buildings.
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Firefighters, I love always service people, but my family's FBNY, so I got to be inspired by.
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Thank you so much for having me on, and I'd love to talk again in the future.
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Thank you, guys.
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Have a great day, and we'll see you on the sand.
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