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Steven Roschitz:
I think a lot of people, especially people who are sort of cautious about handsetting because they don't want to double or get embarrassed.
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Steven Roschitz:
A lot of people focus on their hands.
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Steven Roschitz:
And I would say a good set starts with your feet.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like your feet are more important than your hands, for sure, being able to get in the correct position and have your balance in a certain way where your whole body is setting into emotion.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like my set starts with my feet through my legs, through my core.
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And then your hands are the last thing that really influenced the ball.
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Steven Roschitz:
And that's where reps come.
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Steven Roschitz:
And you could sit against the wall and do this, whatever your release is.
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Steven Roschitz:
You can do that a million times and not get tired and you can get a million hands reps.
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Steven Roschitz:
The footwork that you're talking about is what actually creates good angles.
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Steven Roschitz:
So if I'm setting from 10ft off, I need to take two steps, make sure my right foot is planted really hard.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I'm pushing off that right foot.
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Steven Roschitz:
My whole body is letting go of it.
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Steven Roschitz:
And I think a lot of people are too concerned about their hands and not concerned enough about their body positioning in relation to where I need the ball to go and what direction the ball is taking me.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I need to change the direction.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's not my hands changing the direction, it's my whole body changing the direction.
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Mark Burik:
Welcome to the Better at Beach Volleyball Podcast.
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Mark Burik:
My name is Mark Burik and we here at Beach Volleyball Podcast talk about everything you need to become a better player, coach, fan enthusiasts.
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Mark Burik:
And we talk to great volleyball minds and athletes and try to glean a little bit of knowledge from them and their journey.
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Mark Burik:
And today we have a very special guest from Texas, coaching currently for 210 Beach Volleyball Club where they just dominated at nationals.
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Mark Burik:
And his most important stat is that he is currently on the AVPT two undefeated against Mark Burik.
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Mark Burik:
So without further Ado, Steven Roshitz.
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Mark Burik:
Steve, welcome, buddy.
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Mark Burik:
Congrats on your undefeated.
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Steven Roschitz:
Thank you.
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Mark Burik:
Right now it's about 11:00 Texas time.
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Mark Burik:
You're living in Texas.
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Mark Burik:
You're coaching a lot.
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Mark Burik:
What was this morning like for you? What did you do? Just waking up?
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Steven Roschitz:
This is the first weekend I've had off from traveling in about seven weeks. So this morning I slept in nice on my average morning, like on a basically Monday to Wednesday, we get up and we train earlier, probably about nine.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I get up and I trained with my partner Pete.
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Steven Roschitz:
Nine to eleven in that kind of time slot.
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Mark Burik:
Really? Yes, sir.
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Mark Burik:
Do you guys have a training group that you typically go with? Do you have a coach that you're working with and where are you guys practicing? In Texas?
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Steven Roschitz:
We have a group that's kind of rotating. We have some local guys.
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Steven Roschitz:
One guy, Brandon Severn, is getting into it.
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Steven Roschitz:
He's played a couple of different qualifiers and then a couple of other homies that come out and kind of hop in when they want to get in, I guess.
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Steven Roschitz:
And then there's a couple of dudes from Austin who drive down every now and then, kind of give us a rotating group from anywhere.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like, sometimes it's just me and Pete and just two of us working on individual stuff.
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Steven Roschitz:
Sometimes there's four people, and yesterday we had eight, so we had two course rolling, and we practice at Sideliners, which is like a beach bar over here.
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Steven Roschitz:
And it's like half a mile down the road.
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Mark Burik:
Great.
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Steven Roschitz:
Good place.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's got deep sand, and they let us have a key to the back door.
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Steven Roschitz:
So we just come in, hang out whenever we need to.
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Mark Burik:
And a heavy hometown crowd, from what I remember.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
They love their boys.
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Steven Roschitz:
They do.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's a tough place to come play, especially when the beer starts flowing a little bit.
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Mark Burik:
Oh, man, it's so much fun.
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Mark Burik:
I've always been like, bring it on, audience hammer it because if nobody is saying anything, it means they don't care.
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Mark Burik:
I'd rather the people who are watching, at least they care.
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Mark Burik:
And if they're going to hang on me all day long.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah, I put myself out here.
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Mark Burik:
I'm ready for this.
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Mark Burik:
Bring it on.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah, it's definitely fun.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, it is.
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Mark Burik:
And nice giant size cold beers afterwards.
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Mark Burik:
Never hurts.
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Mark Burik:
Now, do you think it's tough in Texas where you guys are that's in San Antonio? Yeah.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's tough there in that neighborhood to be two of really the only guys who are competing, I guess Le Tucker, if he comes around every now and then.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, he moved to, like, SoCal.
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Steven Roschitz:
He moved out Yellow's way, I think.
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Steven Roschitz:
So he's no longer in Texas.
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Mark Burik:
Is that even tougher, like, with the crowd? How do you get your practices in at the level that you can play at?.
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Steven Roschitz:
That's always been the toughest part, obviously, is learning to compete in those I would say top 25, top 30 matches. Those are the guys.
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Steven Roschitz:
We don't see them every day.
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Steven Roschitz:
So when we go to compete, it's sort of like a one on one.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like we haven't seen so and so and so we just have to figure out how to win from our side.
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Steven Roschitz:
So the first year we started playing, the first year I played in Texas, I was a blocker, so I was a full time blocker, and I actually qualified with Lila in 2018.
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Steven Roschitz:
So it was like our cumulative height was six foot.
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Steven Roschitz:
I'll give him 511.
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Steven Roschitz:
So he's 511, I'm 61.
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Steven Roschitz:
And it was just like figure out how to win.
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Steven Roschitz:
And we had a good chemistry because we played College ball together indoor.
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Steven Roschitz:
And once I got the points there and kind of convinced Pete to come out, we had some mutual friends in San Antonio.
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Steven Roschitz:
It randomly happened, and he's like, hey, you got to meet my boy, bring him out, bring him out.
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Steven Roschitz:
So he came out to play, and once we had decided to play, it was how good can our offense be? It doesn't matter what they're serving at us and how tough can I serve? It doesn't matter who you're playing.
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Steven Roschitz:
If you can serve the ball extremely tough and you can fight out on any ball.
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Steven Roschitz:
The rest of it is just battling and experience.
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Steven Roschitz:
So that was sort of the mindset.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's like we don't need to have the best training group.
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Steven Roschitz:
We don't need eight of the top 30 dudes out here training.
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Steven Roschitz:
We can make it work with just us.
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Steven Roschitz:
And I feel like it also gives us a bit of an advantage because nobody sees us on a daily basis.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's like we show up to a tournament and they can maybe go look up on YouTube or Facebook like a match, but it's hard to tell what's going on from those.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like, once you get in the game and Pete's huge and I'm hitting with both hands and it's all awkward.
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Mark Burik::
He's so calm when he's up there.
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Mark Burik:
He just never freaks out, gets excited all just straight away.
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Mark Burik:
And that in itself is intimidating.
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Mark Burik:
When you see somebody just like, homily going through, whether they miss or they crush, it just like the same reaction.
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Mark Burik:
You're like, what's going on in your head? Like, how am I going to fight this mental battle here? You got to give me something that I can take advantage of.
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Mark Burik:
But I don't think you guys do.
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Mark Burik:
You stay just mentally straight on straight edge, no matter where it's 1818 or one.
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Mark Burik:
One.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think there's again, to the fact that we don't trade.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's not like you see some of these Cali match ups and there's emotion behind the game, and it's like they've been training against each other or practicing, and they know each other's tendencies, and there's, like, this expectation to where you're supposed to know what to do to beat these guys.
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Steven Roschitz:
And then when it doesn't happen, that creates frustration.
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Steven Roschitz:
And for us, it's like we know every good team is a good team, and we're going to literally just do our best and it works out well most of the time, obviously.
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Steven Roschitz:
But when we start playing some of those top tier teams, you can't make any errors, and if they have a better read on our tendencies, and that's where the tough games come in. So I would love to see sometimes,
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Mark Burik:
do you do any of the film work? Like, do you jump on YouTube and take a look at who you might play the next day? Once you came out to Manhattan, were you like, we might play these teams? Let's just get a look at it, check out some film, or are you one of those film addicts anyway, so you're like, constantly watching?
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Steven Roschitz:
I hate film, so I hate watching film. I'd say I never watch my own film, so I have a very good memory, like for matches, for my own movements, I can remember each and every ball that I messed up, and that's just in here already.
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Steven Roschitz:
So it's inherent, like what we need to work on and for.
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Steven Roschitz:
I would say the top.
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Steven Roschitz:
And it was nice when we had Amazon Prime.
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Steven Roschitz:
So in 2019, I would go through and I watched every single men's match that took place that's available to watch on there.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I watched every single match probably multiple times through and took notes based on the most accurate tendencies that we could find, what they did, who they were playing, what kind of shots to get one kind of blocker, those kinds of things.
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Steven Roschitz:
For the top 30 players, those are like that's who the target is on.
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Steven Roschitz:
But I would say not to be rude, but anybody below that we want to handle our physicality and speed of our game tends to just get us through those matches.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I don't dig through Facebook, like Facebook Lives and YouTube from 2017.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think it's just too much for some of those games where you just need to go and play.
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Mark Burik:
I agree.
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Mark Burik:
I think there's such a distinct difference between top 40 and then everything else.
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Mark Burik:
I don't know if it comes down to commerce.
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Mark Burik:
I do think it comes down to consistency.
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Mark Burik:
And necessarily I wouldn't say athleticism because I play guys in open local tournaments everywhere who can for sure out jump me or faster than me, quickly quicker than me.
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Mark Burik:
But I think it's just knowing consistent spots and almost like you're saying, just staying calm and knowing that your spots will work.
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Mark Burik:
In your experience, what do you think is the biggest difference? Like when you can just sit there and essentially crush like a San Antonio local and then you go in and you play in your first main draw? What's the difference between the team on the other side of the net that makes that ABP difference or the pro caliber difference?
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Steven Roschitz:
Absolutely. What you said is consistency.
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Steven Roschitz:
But I think to dive into that a little bit more is it's first contact.
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Steven Roschitz:
So if you're serving it's, how tough are you serving? And if you're serving it's, where am I actually hitting this ball from? So I think a lot of people at the lower level overlook those two things a lot, and you end up serving somebody a free ball and they're out of system.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like a local guy.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like, I can standing float.
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Steven Roschitz:
See, he's standing a certain way, put a ball over his right hip, and now we get a down ball, but against yourself.
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Steven Roschitz:
Or like we played Eric and Avery the other day, it's like I can serve a beam to the corner that would probably be an ace or definitely out of system and they'll handle it.
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Steven Roschitz:
And it's like, all right, well, that's the difference right there, because they're always in system versus a team that's almost always out of system.
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Steven Roschitz:
So you have to pass and you have to serve.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like, that is number one, I think.
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Mark Burik:
Do you think that we'll call like open players open players and we'll call pro players pro players? Do you think that open players don't know that they're passing poorly? Do you think that they think that they're passing is good enough if it's like somewhere in the first half of the court? Because there is that difference where you can put so much service pressure and you're hoping like as a pro, you're hoping maybe you can get this team out of system or a path that falls behind half court.
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Mark Burik:
You're hoping for that like twice a set.
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Mark Burik:
And if you did that as a server, you've done your job, literally.
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Mark Burik:
And that's the expectation that we hold ourselves to as pastors.
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Mark Burik:
It's like, no, every single pass is going to be in system, and if I have one over pass, that's a bad set of volleyball for me.
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Do you think that open players just don't know or they don't hold themselves to a standard or they aren't at that level yet? I think it's a combination of they're not dialed in specifically to where do I sign out well from?
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Steven Roschitz:
So it's like when you pass the ten foot line, it's slightly over the shoulder. You might not sight out well for that ball.
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Steven Roschitz:
Let's say you pass at the forefoot line.
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Steven Roschitz:
You get sort of like a hitting lines ball.
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Steven Roschitz:
If that's your 90% tile side out, that's where you have to put the ball.
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Steven Roschitz:
But I also think that a lot of open teams are limited from their handsetting.
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Steven Roschitz:
So for me and Pete, we didn't pass particularly well our first year.
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Steven Roschitz:
Just decent up in the air, and the out of system contacts is what saved us.
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Steven Roschitz:
So we would run out of system balls in system, because I'll literally handset from anywhere and Pete will literally hand set the ball from anywhere on the court.
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Steven Roschitz:
And I think that's sort of an equalizer.
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Steven Roschitz:
And you get to open, you see a lot of dudes running and bump setting that ball over the shoulder.
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Steven Roschitz:
Time to spin 60ft in the air.
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Steven Roschitz:
And instead of like track the ball down over the shoulder, push the ball exactly where it needs to be.
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Steven Roschitz:
And now that out of system contact fields in system.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I think open guys don't handle the speed well of certain float servers and jumpers, and I think that's what gets them, a lot of them out of the system.
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Steven Roschitz:
I don't think they see that speed on a consistent basis against other open teams.
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Steven Roschitz:
So when they see the speed from a pro team, it's like their eyes open up a bit and there's like, oh, I just can't pass today.
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Steven Roschitz:
I just can't pass.
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Steven Roschitz:
Something's wrong.
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Steven Roschitz:
I just can't pass.
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Steven Roschitz:
I'm having a bad day, but it's actually being caused by the other person on the other side of the net.
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Steven Roschitz:
But when they're playing open teams, everything feels fine.
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Steven Roschitz:
And they're passing pretty well because the serves are so much less aggressive, whether that be jump, flows, floats, whatever it is.
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Mark Burik:
And I think that kind of lets them get lazier.
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Mark Burik:
You don't have to be instantaneously prepped to pass if somebody's going kind of low, slow, float serves, or if they're honestly, maybe this has happened to you.
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Mark Burik:
But when I was back in New York and then like in the pot stone rumble the grass, there are people that come out there and they just try.
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Mark Burik:
They say, well, we're not going to beat them head to head.
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Mark Burik:
So we might as well just last away our serves and see if we can get Aces.
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Mark Burik:
And then they're missing three quarters of their serves.
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Mark Burik:
So there's really no pressure.
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Mark Burik:
As a pastor, I think on the other side of it, because they're allowed to be may be lazier a little bit slower to a lot of the serves that they see.
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Mark Burik:
And they're not demanding that they pass exactly to the spot that they want to pass to.
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Mark Burik:
Like the thought of, well, if it's in the air and up, it's okay, it's good enough.
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Instead of like, no, it's not.
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Mark Burik:
You need to specifically aim every pass.
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And it's interesting when players do do that, that they just change their strategy based on or change their complete mindset based on who's on the other side they'll play against you and they'll just be like, well, we got to go balls to the wall serving and there's like zero pressure on you and you get to save energy
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or it's the other way around and they're popping in float serves to me and I'm just walking to it. And now I can see everything downhill.
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I can see the set here.
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Like, it's all very easy.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like, you need to find a happy medium of pressure versus and I don't know statistically what ace to error ratio and saying is good.
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We try to go like one to one.
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Steven Roschitz:
If I'm ripping jumpstarts and I miss, I would like an ace or an out of system ball to follow.
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And that's kind of how we are.
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And if I'm not getting that, then I'll switch the serves into something different.
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Steven Roschitz:
But I think the first contact is absolutely huge and it definitely separates those freak athlete open dudes and the pro guy.
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Steven Roschitz:
And that's like, I'm literally learning that right now myself.
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Steven Roschitz:
We're cracking into that top tier.
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Steven Roschitz:
And the only reason we lose games is because whoever is getting served at makes a couple of hitting errors.
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Steven Roschitz:
You make two hitting errors, you lose.
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Steven Roschitz:
Somebody grabs one ball with their inside hand, you lose.
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One ball hits the line.
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Funny, you lose.
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Like, that's all it is.
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Steven Roschitz:
That's all it is.
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Mark Burik:
Yes.
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Mark Burik:
It always comes down to 1315, 1416.
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And that one path, one overset.
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Mark Burik:
That's the stuff that you can control.
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Hitting errors.
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If somebody makes a crazy reach block.
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Mark Burik:
I'm going to give him a round of applause and I'm going to say, all right, now we'll start worrying about you or changing up so that you don't do it again, force you to stay home a little bit.
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Mark Burik:
Do you think that there are any serves or things that just make your day easy when you are playing against open or lower level teams? Like, is there something that most open teams can't do this? So this will make my day easy up until at least like semi finals, quarter finals.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think a lot of the times when we're getting float serves right, especially when there's no wind too.
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So when there's wind, everyone wants to hit that jump serve and I think the jump serves are at that level.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like if you're not hitting them 50 miles an hour or whatever, like a 75 miles fast ball, you're just like it is the easiest ball and you have somebody over there that trying to rip a jump serve and they'd be way better off flow serving the ball.
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Steven Roschitz:
You get that jump serve and it's middle of the court.
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Steven Roschitz:
It has top spin, it's straight in the mid line.
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You basically stick your arms out and it goes to target.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think a lot of the open guys, especially the smaller like obviously not six eight, but anybody under six three.
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Steven Roschitz:
So typically defenders at the open level, they try to go back there and use the wind and crack that jumpsuit.
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Steven Roschitz:
But I think that's the worst thing they can do unless you're putting heat on the ball, unless you are really putting heat or some movement or kind of like a hybrid awkward spin and float ball or like kind of like shift top spin that falls on the front or like over you so that you have to take the step back and pass over your shoulder.
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Steven Roschitz:
That medium fastball right in your sweet spot.
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Steven Roschitz:
No, sorry guys, you don't have a major you have to crank on it.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like if you don't crank on it, you have to put a float serve in the back 3ft of the court and try to get the shoulders lifted.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think that's the number one mistake from a lot of those guys.
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Steven Roschitz:
We saw it a lot in Panama because the wind was a little bit crazy.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was watching some games and there's just jumpstarts.
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Steven Roschitz:
You have to put more body into it.
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Steven Roschitz:
You have to shoulder it more or like there's just not enough speed to create any out of system contact.
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Mark Burik:
I like that you said put more body.
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Mark Burik:
Most people think like hit harder and you just gave yourself instead of you said you have to hit it harder.
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Mark Burik:
You gave yourself your own physical coaching queue where you're like throw your chest, throw your body into it and that will generate the speed.
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Mark Burik:
And that's something that people can probably clean a little insight from.
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Mark Burik:
If you're going to try to hit a jumpsuit harder, especially in the wind.
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Mark Burik:
When there's some top spin or there's some wind in your face, you want to throw that top spin, throw your chest at the ball and let your arm follow and that will start generating power.
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Mark Burik:
But I think a lot of people just try to use only arm and your arm can only do so much.
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Mark Burik:
No, it's just that creates a spin.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think if you want that heavy jump serve, you have to be hitting with your whole your core needs to be involved and like the momentum, just your body weight hitting the ball.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think that's where speed comes from.
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Steven Roschitz:
I'm not a huge dude, but I hit a pretty hard jump serve when I'm getting into it versus just snapping at times.
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Steven Roschitz:
Just my shoulder is not going to get it done right.
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Mark Burik:
I don't know if anybody has discussed this with you or tell you, but you have a pretty strange arm swing.
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Mark Burik:
I would say very super high elbow and it comes through like over the top.
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Mark Burik:
Whereas most people, when they're teaching a pullback for a jump serve, it's even humorous across.
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Mark Burik:
Like if you line up your clavicle, your shoulder bones, you pull your arm back in that same method and then you snap so that you do get a high elbow.
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Mark Burik:
But I think you use a ton of ABS and a ton of lats and you're one of the hardest hitters I've seen.
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Mark Burik:
So how do you teach your arm swing and do you think that this developed for any certain way or you just don't notice it?
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Steven Roschitz:
I for sure notice it. And I've heard that and I've been asked that question a ton until my whole shoulder issue thing came along.
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Steven Roschitz:
I thought that's just kind of how it was.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think anatomically I think that shoulder position was patterned because of the way that my rib was set up.
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Steven Roschitz:
So because it was pulling in a certain direction, I don't think I had the range of motion that most people have.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I created a different movement as far as opening with my torso a little bit more to allow that elbow to get higher versus a lot of people can just hold that shoulder back.
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And I wasn't able to do that.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think I think it was pattern based off of what was an issue.
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Steven Roschitz:
And now it's sort of helping me out a bit because I didn't specifically train.
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Steven Roschitz:
I played volleyball when I was younger, but at a lower level and then a little bit of club and there wasn't a ton of private lessons where I was drilling through a certain swing that was just kind of what it was.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I always just had this shoulder Canning from throwing through baseballs and just being a generalized athlete as a young kid.
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Steven Roschitz:
That's just the pattern that kind of came out of my upbringing, I guess.
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Mark Burik:
And I think a lot of coaches will see an athlete.
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Mark Burik:
They'll see somebody like you'll be able to jump, rip the ball and they're like that's good enough.
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Mark Burik:
It's at a high level.
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Mark Burik:
What's my next problem? So they won't go and correct outperforming people.
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Steven Roschitz:
So why would we correct that when it's kind of working? And I have bigger issues? Because I need somebody now who can actually set this kid.
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Mark Burik:
So now they go and they worked with their setter more than they ever worked on your arm swing when you have a major League power capacity and it sucks that some coaches don't have the time or resources to be able to develop that.
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Mark Burik:
I think especially in boys volleyball where you don't have one coach.
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Steven Roschitz:
I played eight teams for five years.
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Steven Roschitz:
I played eight teams for five because it's Kansas City.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I grew up in Kansas City and I played 18.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think when I was 13, like my first year of high school, I played a little bit and eighteens and then there was eighteens again and then 18s again and then again.
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Steven Roschitz:
We don't have age division.
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Steven Roschitz:
So it was just go in there and get woke up by all the older kids and then slowly catch up.
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Steven Roschitz:
And that was my club experience growing up.
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Mark Burik:
Was there only one team in all of Kansas? Were you on the one team in the whole state?
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Steven Roschitz:
There was another team in Wichita which is like 2 hours south. So I think one or two other boys teams in the state that I knew of and definitely no other teams in the city.
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Steven Roschitz:
And that was for Mavs.
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Steven Roschitz:
Some Maps had a single boys team, like one boys team, but now they've grown.
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Steven Roschitz:
They have like 20 and it's really cool actually to see that they're killing it.
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Steven Roschitz:
Teams in open and like high level volleyball players there now, which is super cool to see.
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Mark Burik:
It's so nice seeing a little bit of growth.
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Mark Burik:
It's still not happening at the College level except for like D three where is really bumping up.
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Mark Burik:
And honestly there's D three teams that are taking out D one teams.
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Mark Burik:
So it doesn't look like the whole financial thing is really mattering just because maybe because there's a smaller pool of athletes in the juniors and so it's much more diversified and you don't have parents doing everything they can and taking out third and fourth mortgages to pay for clubs.
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Steven Roschitz:
No, it's not quite getting there yet.
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Steven Roschitz:
They haven't got to that level yet in men's at all.
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Steven Roschitz:
But definitely you see some of the people coming out of the pipeline, these younger kids, especially in sand too now like SoCal and some of those areas, these kids are very good at a very young age, which is really cool to see in the boys.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
I'm still waiting for the height and athleticism to come with the skill from the juniors and USA beach pipeline.
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Mark Burik:
We're still not grabbing the potentially 68 kids who can pass.
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Mark Burik:
No.
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Mark Burik:
I love begging sponsors to send me some protein powders that I could post to them on Instagram.
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Mark Burik:
Not the way to do it.
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Steven Roschitz:
That's why the grind is, though, that's a whole other topic conversation.
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Steven Roschitz:
Why we do it.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah, for sure.
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Mark Burik:
And then this season with more tournaments from the AVP, but the same size money that's always been available.
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Mark Burik:
And it's just like, yeah, it would just kind of double the expenses or you just got the same expenses that you've had every year.
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Mark Burik:
It's just now there's an AVP label on it.
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Mark Burik:
But that money always existed for us.
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Mark Burik:
It's just now there's an AVP on top of it.
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Mark Burik:
So I'm still waiting with a point.
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Steven Roschitz:
You have incentive to go to Muskegon.
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Steven Roschitz:
Not to be rude, but I never would have gone up, like, I don't know.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think we're going to go this year to that one as a qualifier for Atlanta maybe, or something.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, I would never, ever, even if it was like a good purse.
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Steven Roschitz:
Avp next there.
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Steven Roschitz:
I would never go to mosquito.
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Steven Roschitz:
I don't have any interest.
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Mark Burik:
You have for cheese curds?
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Steven Roschitz:
No, we went to Wapaka in 2020, and it's a bucket list tournament. But that part of the country is just far away.
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Steven Roschitz:
And it's just like it's hard to get to.
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Steven Roschitz:
It is a logistical nightmare because you get there and then you probably have to drive a little bit to get wherever you're going.
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Steven Roschitz:
So it's like airplane, car rental, hotel, everything in between.
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Mark Burik:
Yes.
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Mark Burik:
The lay down is immediately like $1100.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, minimum.
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Mark Burik:
And if you don't take it at minimum, third year law, it's a huge loss.
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Mark Burik:
Otherwise, you're breaking equal.
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Mark Burik:
And then we could talk, like, economically about opportunity cost of what's done somewhere else.
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Mark Burik:
But I guess we can all agree that we're not putting AVP to be financially secure.
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Steven Roschitz:
No, definitely not.
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Steven Roschitz:
But I'm also not paying to play it.
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Steven Roschitz:
My intention when I started a couple of years ago was not to be funding a hobby.
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Steven Roschitz:
It wasn't like, this is something I'm going to drop ten grand a year on this.
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Steven Roschitz:
And if we win, it's great.
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Steven Roschitz:
If we lose, like, no, I want to be successful.
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Steven Roschitz:
I want to be in the black as far as spending goes.
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Steven Roschitz:
I want to make sure that it's not becoming something that is detracting.
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Mark Burik:
And that's why I feel like this successful players should hold another, just a separate bank account.
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Mark Burik:
I would love to see one person take all of their volleyball expenses and then like, well, what do you include in that? Like, you got to include coach fees, travel fees.
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Mark Burik:
Does your protein powder then go under volleyball expense? Probably could but it would be interesting to see everybody's just like actual bank accounts starting, give it $1,000 at the beginning of the year and see what happens instead of where you just see that the winnings or whatever, right? Yeah.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think for tax purposes, I keep track of that stuff.
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Steven Roschitz:
So by the end of the year, I should have a somewhat accurate.
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Mark Burik:
That'd be fun in November.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yes, we'll see where we're at.
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Steven Roschitz:
I'll let you all know.
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Mark Burik:
okay, so do you think that there was a big turning point where you decided that you could go ABP or was like when the AVP kind of showed up and you and Tucker were ready to rock, you just signed up, or was it a decision to say, I'm going?
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Steven Roschitz:
Probably. It was a 100% decision.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I was going to school in Iowa at Graceland University, and I met a friend of mine who runs San Antonio Juniors.
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Steven Roschitz:
Now it's a club.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's a volleyball club down here.
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Steven Roschitz:
And basically I graduated from College, and he was like, come on down.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like, you can run some private lessons, like live on the couch and see if you like it down here.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I moved down to San Antonio.
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Steven Roschitz:
Not permanently, but I came down here and spent a few weeks and kind of peaked the scene.
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Steven Roschitz:
I've watched AVP since I was like seven, right.
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Steven Roschitz:
And that's always what I wanted to do.
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Steven Roschitz:
I've always seen that when you see the old ones with the Crocs in the background and Xbox One banners, all the ramps were in Crocs.
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Steven Roschitz:
I used to watch those games religiously.
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Steven Roschitz:
And so that was always something that I really wanted to do.
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Steven Roschitz:
I wanted to be a part of that.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I've signed out logistically what it took.
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Steven Roschitz:
And it was like, this is when local points, like if you had 300 points, that was a lot, right? So it was like for local level.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I was like, okay, well, how do you get these points? Looking at the tournaments, I was like, okay, it's either you go do the SoCal tournaments or you live in Florida, or I was like, Texas TBT.
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Steven Roschitz:
So the TBT series in Texas, they did local points for Opens, and then they used to have, like, a series where if you won the series, you got a bid to Manhattan.
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So if you had the best finishes out of the five series, you got like a wildcard bid into Manhattan.
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Steven Roschitz:
And that's when they were doing I don't remember the draws, but it was like big draws, 32 draws or something.
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Steven Roschitz:
And I was like, okay, so that's how you do it.
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Steven Roschitz:
That's how you get in.
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Steven Roschitz:
What does that look like? So I moved to San Antonio to be closer.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's warm year round.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's kind of centralized.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, I can do AVP next stuff from San Antonio.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, I can do that.
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Steven Roschitz:
I can make that happen.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I moved down, started coaching a little bit, and I started coaching and I got an offer at a small D one College here.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I started coaching indoor volleyball at the division one level.
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Steven Roschitz:
And my beach plans kind of took a backseat.
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Steven Roschitz:
And I did that for two years.
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Steven Roschitz:
And by the like I would say halfway through my second year coaching, it was an incarnate word.
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Steven Roschitz:
It hit me.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, I need to go do this now because coaching College volleyball is like a trap.
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Steven Roschitz:
Like, you get in, you love it.
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Steven Roschitz:
You start recruiting people, you want them to stay and you want to build the program.
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Steven Roschitz:
And that's years.
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Steven Roschitz:
It's not like you don't go in for a year and just like, okay, that's it.
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Steven Roschitz:
Rebuilding programs you can really make in a single year.
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Steven Roschitz:
No.
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Steven Roschitz:
So it's the long term game I was coaching.
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Steven Roschitz:
I got that job when I was 23 and I coached two years.
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Steven Roschitz:
So at 25, I was like, okay, I'm going to give myself a real chance at doing something like kind of a dream of mine.
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Steven Roschitz:
Right.
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Steven Roschitz:
This is something I've always wanted to do, and it's obtainable.
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Steven Roschitz:
I didn't know if I was any good yet.
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Steven Roschitz:
I hadn't really trained.
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Steven Roschitz:
I played indoor.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was pretty good at indoor.
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Steven Roschitz:
And sand was something that I hadn't even really got into yet.
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Mark Burik:
So spring season hit on year two and I quit Ocean and then they actually clean the staff out like a week later anyway, so it was a good call.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
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Steven Roschitz:
So that's a good call while waiting.
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Steven Roschitz:
But you've gotten like severance pay if you didn't quit your week editor.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think about how it happened, and I think that was probably part of it.
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Steven Roschitz:
But I was also 24 and some change and that wasn't something I was.
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Mark Burik:
Yes.
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Mark Burik:
And as an assistant College coach for a non giant program, you're making what, exactly 4000 for the semester? Yeah, I don't know.
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Steven Roschitz:
I think for the year it was 35,000 or something like that.
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Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, it was a a real job.
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Steven Roschitz:
So they would have had to probably pay me something.
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Steven Roschitz:
But anyway, that was already decided.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, I'm not coming back for post spring.
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Steven Roschitz:
So that was like, okay, now how do I sustain doing this? So I started coaching for two, 10 beach.
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Steven Roschitz:
And Jason, the guy who runs it, is super understanding about sort of following that dream.
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Steven Roschitz:
Obviously, he wants us to be high level coaches and there's nothing more high level than going and trying to play AVP.
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Steven Roschitz:
Right.
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Steven Roschitz:
So that was like the logistical plan.
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Steven Roschitz:
And then Lila moved to Houston randomly and I was like, dude, do you want to play these tournaments? And the first tournament we played, we went Owens in a local Open.
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Steven Roschitz:
We got smoked by it.
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Steven Roschitz:
I literally couldn't hit a ball in like I'm telling you, like 6ft out, but really hard.
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Steven Roschitz:
My first tournament always do 80 miles an hour swing into the bar area.
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Steven Roschitz:
So that was my experience.
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Steven Roschitz:
And then it was like, all right, well, what do I do now? I need to be able to set.
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Steven Roschitz:
I need to be able to get down.
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00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,010
Steven Roschitz:
And it was like every week was like a different challenge.
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00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:51,690
Steven Roschitz:
I suck at everything now I'm going to have to figure out how to do this at a very high level.
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Mark Burik:
What do you think at that time was the hardest thing for you to learn or add to your game after that? Owen two, and then the transition from Owen two, and you're open to getting your first AVP.
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Mark Burik:
What was the hardest skill or technique that came? What was the process like,
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Steven Roschitz:
I think I typically pick up things pretty quick, just athleticism wise. I would go out and literally set, like 200 balls.
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Steven Roschitz:
I would set a bench up sideways and hit a ball off the bench and set.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I would do that for an hour straight.
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00:30:22,534 --> 00:30:26,230
Steven Roschitz:
So handsetting the ball in a two ft.
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Steven Roschitz:
Window.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, Whoever I play with, this was before I was playing with Leela.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, Whoever I'm playing with, I'm going to make sure that I can make them side out at a high level.
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Steven Roschitz:
I don't care if I'm playing with somebody that's five, seven and needs the ball.
413
00:30:38,566 --> 00:30:39,982
Steven Roschitz:
And there's perfect window to score.
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00:30:40,006 --> 00:30:41,214
Steven Roschitz:
Like, they're hitting windows this big.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, I'm going to hand that this ball right there.
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00:30:43,628 --> 00:30:44,602
Steven Roschitz:
That way I get served.
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00:30:44,626 --> 00:30:45,346
Steven Roschitz:
That was like my goal.
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Steven Roschitz:
I was like, I want to get served because I had a heavy shoulder.
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00:30:48,586 --> 00:30:54,954
Steven Roschitz:
I knew I could site out, but the only way that I'm going to get that first ball is if my partner, whoever it was, is siding out at a high level.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I made sure the first thing I did was make sure that I could hand set from anywhere on the court, over the shoulder, facing backset, just whatever location, perfect location.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I spent a ton of time over the shoulder, set over the shoulder, set out a system said it doesn't matter where it came from.
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00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:17,734
Mark Burik:
To me, who is the coach of a lot of players, it's so important for everybody to hear that you were alone.
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Mark Burik:
You're hitting against a bench, the ball rebounds back to you, and you draw something or hang something on a net or draw like, a circle in the sand, and you make it land there and you hold yourself to your own tiny, little, like, standard to make sure that you can actually get it done.
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Mark Burik:
And you don't need a court for that.
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00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,302
Mark Burik:
You don't need a partner for that.
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00:31:37,436 --> 00:31:41,646
Mark Burik:
For our online students, that's what they realized within the first week.
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Mark Burik:
It's like all these drills that you guys are giving us, we don't actually need a court like no, 80% of what you need to do is just doing it on your own, feeling your touches, developing the ball control, being able to set, and all of the drills that we give.
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Mark Burik:
Like, right now we're doing our setting course online, and all of our players are taking videos of themselves doing the footwork for setting on the street in front of their house.
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00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,254
Mark Burik:
Like, the video demos that I give them are from my garage.
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00:32:08,362 --> 00:32:10,734
Mark Burik:
And I said, you can do this at home.
431
00:32:10,772 --> 00:32:12,862
Mark Burik:
You don't need four people in a coach.
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00:32:12,946 --> 00:32:14,274
Mark Burik:
Is that an advantage? Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
But you also get, I don't know, five, six times the reps doing it alone with a bench.
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Mark Burik:
Are there any keys that made setting easier for you or any advice that you would give to somebody for setting other than reps as much as you can? Yeah.
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Steven Roschitz:
So I think a lot of people, especially people who are sort of cautious about handsetting because they don't want to double or get embarrassed, like they don't want to go get called at a BB for doubling or whatever it is.
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00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,540
Steven Roschitz:
A lot of people focus on their hands.
437
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:44,914
Steven Roschitz:
And I would say a good set starts with your feet.
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00:32:44,962 --> 00:32:53,950
Steven Roschitz:
Like, your feet are more important than your hands for sure, like being able to get in the correct position and have your balance in a certain way where your whole body is setting into emotion.
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00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:59,914
Steven Roschitz:
Like, my set starts with my feet through my legs, through my core, and then your hands are the last thing that really influenced the ball.
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00:32:59,962 --> 00:33:01,182
Steven Roschitz:
And that's where reps come.
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00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:10,882
Steven Roschitz:
And you can sit against a wall and do this, do this, whatever your release is, you can do that a million times and not get tired and you can get a million hand reps.
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Steven Roschitz:
The footwork that you're talking about is what actually creates good angles.
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00:33:14,842 --> 00:33:19,794
Steven Roschitz:
So if I'm setting from 10ft off, I need to take two steps, make sure my right foot is planted really hard.
444
00:33:19,832 --> 00:33:21,522
Steven Roschitz:
So I'm pushing off that right foot.
445
00:33:21,656 --> 00:33:23,314
Steven Roschitz:
My whole body is letting go of the ball.
446
00:33:23,362 --> 00:33:32,118
Steven Roschitz:
And I think a lot of people are too concerned about their hands and not concerned enough about their body positioning in relation to where I need the ball to go in what direction the ball is taking me.
447
00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:33,430
Steven Roschitz:
So I need to change the direction.
448
00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:34,942
Steven Roschitz:
It's not my hands changing the direction.
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00:33:34,966 --> 00:33:43,410
Steven Roschitz:
It's my whole body changing the direction until they change the hand setting rules, of course, but hopefully they're going to continue to let us sort of drop the ball here.
450
00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:44,782
Steven Roschitz:
It's about your feet.
451
00:33:44,866 --> 00:33:48,526
Steven Roschitz:
Like indoor, you jump square up and it's just pop right in the sand.
452
00:33:48,598 --> 00:33:58,530
Steven Roschitz:
Your whole body is sort of that anchor and you can just really release it into wherever you need to go because from here you can just let it go and you have your entire body throwing it wherever you need.
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00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:10,110
Steven Roschitz:
I think footwork is key in making sure that you understand angles as far as where am I sitting on the court? Where does it need to go? I need my whole body to face that direction so it goes where it's supposed to go.
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00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,562
Steven Roschitz:
And that was a big thing for me.
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00:34:11,696 --> 00:34:21,582
Steven Roschitz:
Getting away from this and getting a flash and getting into that whole body release where you can see the momentum building and throwing the ball versus just running underneath it.
456
00:34:21,596 --> 00:34:23,586
Steven Roschitz:
And that was not it for me.
457
00:34:23,708 --> 00:34:25,506
Steven Roschitz:
I couldn't locate properly that way.
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00:34:25,568 --> 00:34:30,822
Steven Roschitz:
And until I started really slowing down and anchoring, I couldn't do it.
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00:34:30,956 --> 00:34:34,086
Mark Burik:
I like that word that you say for your set.
460
00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:39,778
Mark Burik:
Anchoring like making sure that your feet are grabbing the ground and they're in their solid.
461
00:34:39,814 --> 00:34:43,026
Mark Burik:
You're not just hopping or skipping through it.
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00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:50,446
Mark Burik:
There's a few high level setters that I know just that come from indoor, but they still use that kind of skip or toe through the ball.
463
00:34:50,578 --> 00:34:52,710
Mark Burik:
They jog through it and it's like this is different.
464
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,158
Mark Burik:
We're not trying to move as quickly as we can.
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00:34:55,184 --> 00:35:00,666
Mark Burik:
There's still rhythm in indoor, but you're really just chucking it through windows as fast as you can.
466
00:35:00,728 --> 00:35:01,402
Mark Burik:
There's still rhythm.
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00:35:01,426 --> 00:35:06,834
Mark Burik:
So I don't want to take away anything from indoor setters the rhythm for beach, right.
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00:35:06,872 --> 00:35:17,982
Mark Burik:
Like stopping, showing somebody that you're about to set, then having that consistent hand rhythm and then releasing at a very similar speed so that they can be in their own heading rhythm every time.
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Mark Burik:
It's everything.
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Mark Burik:
And people who are trying to get to the ball, I think they'll take off before they get there and then they'll float through the zone where they're supposed to set instead of running low, stopping under the ball, being strong with their legs, then setting exactly.
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00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:34,414
Steven Roschitz:
You're fighting your own body momentum.
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00:35:34,462 --> 00:35:45,210
Steven Roschitz:
Like if you're going through the zone, like you're having to fight your forward momentum as well as the wind and you're running through that contact and trying to Chuck up a ball, it's a lot tougher, like when you're fading away.
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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,558
Steven Roschitz:
A lot tougher when you're jump.
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00:35:46,594 --> 00:35:46,918
Steven Roschitz:
Setting.
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00:35:46,954 --> 00:35:50,238
Steven Roschitz:
It's a lot tougher if you're stopped on the floor becomes very easy.
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00:35:50,324 --> 00:35:52,218
Steven Roschitz:
So that's always my key.
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Steven Roschitz:
And when I'm teaching, especially our young ones now at 210, we have eleven and twelve year olds that are just sauce at the ball and the ball is this big for them, but it's like they handed everything because that was something we told them when they first came in.
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Steven Roschitz:
We probably had them at ten, I think, and little ten year olds just Chuck that thing, get your body under it, Chuck the ball as they're getting older.
479
00:36:15,274 --> 00:36:19,374
Steven Roschitz:
It's like it's just second nature for them to get there and push it.
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00:36:19,412 --> 00:36:20,682
Steven Roschitz:
It's really cool, actually.
481
00:36:20,756 --> 00:36:21,620
Mark Burik:
So awesome.
482
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:26,310
Mark Burik:
I always get kind of fired up and I rip on people.
483
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:33,942
Mark Burik:
I'm a little bit unforgiving, I would say, when people are like, oh well, women don't set because their hands are too small.
484
00:36:34,076 --> 00:36:44,242
Mark Burik:
And I'm just like, you need to stop talking about pretty much everything right now, the fact that you can say that.
485
00:36:44,316 --> 00:36:48,840
Mark Burik:
And then I'll go and I'll bring it to, like, my niece or my nephew, and I go, look, eight years old.
486
00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:49,826
Mark Burik:
Sauce.
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00:36:49,898 --> 00:36:51,900
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, normal volleyball, too.
488
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:54,540
Steven Roschitz:
It's not a small ball either.
489
00:36:55,110 --> 00:36:57,382
Steven Roschitz:
It's this big for them, but they can still sell it.
490
00:36:57,456 --> 00:36:58,380
Steven Roschitz:
It's fine.
491
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:59,218
Mark Burik:
Yes.
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00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:02,678
Mark Burik:
I like the anchoring discussion for setting.
493
00:37:02,714 --> 00:37:09,670
Mark Burik:
And I find that a lot of people, when they're pursuing a ball that's going towards the net, they're still drifting to the net after they set.
494
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,218
Mark Burik:
So they have this little sideways translation.
495
00:37:12,374 --> 00:37:13,562
Mark Burik:
It's going to kill their accuracy.
496
00:37:13,586 --> 00:37:20,340
Mark Burik:
It's like you're always moving sideways or maybe 30% of the time you're moving sideways while setting instead of establish your feet hold.
497
00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:23,750
Mark Burik:
That's huge for accuracy.
498
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:38,798
Mark Burik:
Did anybody show you that? Was there somebody who had, like, a big influence on your setting or at least your career in general, or was it just you getting out and getting reps?
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Steven Roschitz:
So the first person I trained with, his name is Lucas Galmarini. He played on the AVP tour, and he's from Argentina, but he lives in Kansas City now and he's probably five nine, I would say, but ball control guy, I would go out there for two.
500
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Steven Roschitz:
When I was 1819, I helped him build the same court in his backyard.
501
00:37:53,282 --> 00:37:53,494
Steven Roschitz:
Right.
502
00:37:53,532 --> 00:37:57,946
Steven Roschitz:
So I was coaching for Casey Power and met him through that.
503
00:37:58,008 --> 00:38:00,038
Steven Roschitz:
And we built a sand court in his backyard.
504
00:38:00,074 --> 00:38:04,594
Steven Roschitz:
He's like, all right, I'll help teach you sand if you help me build this.
505
00:38:04,632 --> 00:38:04,762
Steven Roschitz:
Right.
506
00:38:04,776 --> 00:38:05,570
Steven Roschitz:
I was like 18.
507
00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:06,086
Steven Roschitz:
It was summer.
508
00:38:06,098 --> 00:38:07,560
Steven Roschitz:
I was like, hell, yeah, let's go.
509
00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:10,826
Steven Roschitz:
Basically manual labor.
510
00:38:10,898 --> 00:38:13,154
Steven Roschitz:
And that was like the first time I had private lessons.
511
00:38:13,202 --> 00:38:17,858
Steven Roschitz:
So he taught me a lot about the lower hand contact, making sure shake the ball.
512
00:38:17,894 --> 00:38:20,830
Steven Roschitz:
Like all those hand cues, those are from him.
513
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Steven Roschitz:
So that's where I sort of learned the hand release of how to set.
514
00:38:24,990 --> 00:38:32,194
Steven Roschitz:
He was a more traditional square up, get around the ball and square to your target kind of guy that I did not.
515
00:38:32,232 --> 00:38:33,634
Steven Roschitz:
I completely went away from that.
516
00:38:33,672 --> 00:38:35,978
Steven Roschitz:
And I swear to the ball, not to my target.
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Mark Burik:
That was probably could you explain that? Like you square to the ball but not your target now, so you're more comfortable sitting over your shoulder now? Oh, yeah, absolutely.
518
00:38:45,228 --> 00:38:48,478
Steven Roschitz:
I try not to go too long with this because I could talk a while about it.
519
00:38:48,504 --> 00:39:00,562
Steven Roschitz:
But basically, if you look at USA and I think P 1440 training, basically all the high level people will tell you, get your feet around the ball square to your target and release the ball straight on.
520
00:39:00,696 --> 00:39:02,438
Steven Roschitz:
And I was just talking to Pete about this yesterday.
521
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:12,322
Steven Roschitz:
I think I think when you're taking a contact, like the ball is coming over your shoulder, it's harder for you to track and manipulate if you're staring directly at the ball and it's coming into your hands.
522
00:39:12,396 --> 00:39:14,186
Steven Roschitz:
It's a lot easier for you to manipulate.
523
00:39:14,258 --> 00:39:16,430
Steven Roschitz:
So the set itself is a little bit harder.
524
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:20,206
Steven Roschitz:
But if you have good proprioception, you can understand your relation to things.
525
00:39:20,388 --> 00:39:24,070
Steven Roschitz:
It's not a hard thing to set a ball just over my shoulder this way.
526
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,934
Steven Roschitz:
The hard thing is having a consistent ball that's coming into my window sideways.
527
00:39:28,982 --> 00:39:37,130
Steven Roschitz:
So I'm watching the ball with one eyeball coming into my hand sideways, and now I'm having to take off momentum off of my opposite hands and then push the ball straight with no spin.
528
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:40,260
Steven Roschitz:
When you're facing the ball, it comes directly into your hand.
529
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:43,690
Steven Roschitz:
There's nothing easier than catching a ball thrown right to your face.
530
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:44,098
Steven Roschitz:
Right.
531
00:39:44,184 --> 00:39:50,230
Steven Roschitz:
It's like if you were sitting at your desk and someone threw a ball from the side and you had to catch it in your hands, that's harder to do.
532
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,890
Steven Roschitz:
Right.
533
00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:59,234
Steven Roschitz:
And that's the same thing I teach our juniors now is you don't have to square to your target, you square to the ball and you get sort of a wide base with your feet.
534
00:39:59,282 --> 00:40:03,266
Steven Roschitz:
You can push off that back foot and create the same exact angle.
535
00:40:03,338 --> 00:40:14,134
Steven Roschitz:
But it also eliminates a lot of doubles because the ball is coming straight into your hands and now you're releasing sideways evenly instead of having to go over the shoulder and straight, it creates that angle for you.
536
00:40:14,232 --> 00:40:16,402
Mark Burik:
So easier catch may be more difficult.
537
00:40:16,476 --> 00:40:17,018
Mark Burik:
Release.
538
00:40:17,114 --> 00:40:17,734
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
539
00:40:17,892 --> 00:40:21,962
Steven Roschitz:
And the release is the easier part of those two components.
540
00:40:22,106 --> 00:40:24,646
Steven Roschitz:
And also with the current handsetting rules, right.
541
00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:28,094
Steven Roschitz:
It's like the transfer, the carry, the lift.
542
00:40:28,262 --> 00:40:32,294
Steven Roschitz:
Those are all a lot harder to call when you're facing the ball and you release.
543
00:40:32,342 --> 00:40:36,110
Steven Roschitz:
Even if you were taking the ball over the shoulder, I think you're more liable to double.
544
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:37,582
Steven Roschitz:
The double is the easiest call.
545
00:40:37,656 --> 00:40:38,990
Steven Roschitz:
So people see that ball spin.
546
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:43,262
Steven Roschitz:
They call it almost immediately at any level except for very young juniors.
547
00:40:43,286 --> 00:40:44,470
Steven Roschitz:
But you could be at ABB.
548
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,266
Steven Roschitz:
And if the ball spins, they're going to be like, oh, that's a double, right.
549
00:40:47,328 --> 00:40:51,130
Steven Roschitz:
If you transfer it, you have to tell me why I transferred it.
550
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:53,554
Steven Roschitz:
If you're going to call one of those, you have to tell me why.
551
00:40:53,592 --> 00:41:01,250
Steven Roschitz:
So it's also sort of catering to the current handsetting rules of I'd rather lift, transfer or carry the ball versus double.
552
00:41:01,310 --> 00:41:07,270
Mark Burik:
And what do you mean by transfer? Like when it comes down here and you let it go? A lift? Yeah, lift.
553
00:41:07,650 --> 00:41:08,374
Steven Roschitz:
I've heard it.
554
00:41:08,412 --> 00:41:09,614
Steven Roschitz:
We call it in Texas.
555
00:41:09,662 --> 00:41:12,718
Steven Roschitz:
They like to transfer is what I've heard.
556
00:41:12,864 --> 00:41:18,398
Steven Roschitz:
But basically it's coming in on my right shoulder and I'm dropping and it's coming out of my left shoulder.
557
00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:21,720
Steven Roschitz:
It's like that motion, but it's a lot harder to call.
558
00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:23,362
Steven Roschitz:
Those are harder to see.
559
00:41:23,496 --> 00:41:26,242
Steven Roschitz:
Then you do this and the ball is coming out like that.
560
00:41:26,316 --> 00:41:27,242
Steven Roschitz:
You know, it's a double.
561
00:41:27,326 --> 00:41:37,354
Mark Burik:
Now, I like the logic of that because 100% like when you're playing defense, you would face where the ball is coming from, right? You're playing catch with me, you're going to face where the ball is coming from.
562
00:41:37,392 --> 00:41:44,818
Mark Burik:
And then you could take two metaphors easily there and you could say, hey, if we're playing catch, would you face me or would you face sideways? You'd face me.
563
00:41:44,844 --> 00:41:44,962
Mark Burik:
Right.
564
00:41:44,976 --> 00:41:46,130
Mark Burik:
Because it's easier to catch.
565
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:54,206
Mark Burik:
And then the metaphor that goes to the USA way of teaching and the way we teach a better beach where your square up is, well, let's take a look at basketball players.
566
00:41:54,278 --> 00:42:01,910
Mark Burik:
When they release, aren't they always facing the basketball as much as possible? So both sides of that are pretty valid arguments.
567
00:42:01,970 --> 00:42:04,246
Mark Burik:
And I've never heard that.
568
00:42:04,308 --> 00:42:05,460
Mark Burik:
But I like it.
569
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:06,838
Mark Burik:
It makes sense.
570
00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:08,734
Mark Burik:
It's different when the ball is approaching you.
571
00:42:08,772 --> 00:42:12,734
Mark Burik:
And that's why people have to change if they're doing the score up to target route.
572
00:42:12,782 --> 00:42:21,778
Mark Burik:
It's why they have to change their positioning to the ball because you have to approach from behind the ball and move forward so that you're actually like the ball gets into that window and then you go.
573
00:42:21,924 --> 00:42:33,574
Steven Roschitz:
And I think a lot of people that square up, I think in those sort of scramble or like a little bit lower ball or uncomfortable positions, they default to the bump set because they don't have the footwork to get around in square.
574
00:42:33,732 --> 00:42:39,190
Steven Roschitz:
They're not as confident in that footwork and their ability to get there quickly and let the ball go in the right way.
575
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:43,558
Steven Roschitz:
But if you're telling them to set off line, they're very comfortable running to a low ball and just chucking it.
576
00:42:43,584 --> 00:42:44,134
Steven Roschitz:
Right.
577
00:42:44,292 --> 00:42:52,978
Steven Roschitz:
If I can see a ball right in front of my face and get my hands to it versus having to run around the whole ball and now set it over here, it becomes a lot more of a confidence thing, I think.
578
00:42:53,004 --> 00:42:54,602
Steven Roschitz:
And that's a huge thing for handsetting.
579
00:42:54,626 --> 00:42:58,222
Steven Roschitz:
It's just being confident enough to get your hands and feet there and throw it.
580
00:42:58,356 --> 00:43:00,670
Steven Roschitz:
And if it's offline, you don't think as much.
581
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:08,218
Steven Roschitz:
If you're setting in that more strict square to your target, there's all that footwork that goes into it and it's like, oh, I'm not fast enough, I'm just going to bump it.
582
00:43:08,304 --> 00:43:13,810
Steven Roschitz:
I think a lot of people shy away from the handset when they have a more strict approach into it.
583
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,480
Steven Roschitz:
That's why we took the young one.
584
00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:16,978
Steven Roschitz:
I'm down with it.
585
00:43:17,064 --> 00:43:21,850
Mark Burik:
And either way, they are going to get to USA volleyball trial and they're going to get some look.
586
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:27,586
Mark Burik:
But if they can at least explain it, as long as you're explaining it to them and they're like, well, this is the way that we do it.
587
00:43:27,588 --> 00:43:31,440
Mark Burik:
And if they're setting sauce anyway, if it goes to target, there you go.
588
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:32,614
Mark Burik:
Cool.
589
00:43:32,712 --> 00:43:45,610
Mark Burik:
You're asking, do you think they should call what do you think that they should call double in B AA? Because I think that it hurts volleyball when people don't try to hand.
590
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:50,530
Mark Burik:
It because they're afraid to lose a point for the first some people for their entire careers.
591
00:43:50,910 --> 00:43:55,142
Mark Burik:
Somebody will play starting at 20 years old and play until she's 60 and she's like, I never handset.
592
00:43:55,166 --> 00:43:56,882
Mark Burik:
It's been 40 years and I haven't handset.
593
00:43:56,906 --> 00:44:05,326
Mark Burik:
Why would you now? You can never you are useless as a handsetting coach so you can't share or grow the game.
594
00:44:05,388 --> 00:44:10,560
Mark Burik:
And to me, you volunteered for a lack of growth in the game.
595
00:44:11,730 --> 00:44:15,386
Steven Roschitz:
That's the argument is like the double BS in Texas.
596
00:44:15,458 --> 00:44:17,870
Steven Roschitz:
They call stricter hands than in Fivb.
597
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:20,138
Steven Roschitz:
That's like the joke fivb.
598
00:44:20,234 --> 00:44:22,440
Steven Roschitz:
They just and it's gone right.
599
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:24,514
Steven Roschitz:
And this is the same for indoor, too.
600
00:44:24,552 --> 00:44:27,314
Mark Burik:
There's a lot of discussion for indoor like collegiate.
601
00:44:27,362 --> 00:44:33,334
Mark Burik:
Do we just get rid of the double? Aren't they doing that for juniors next year? I saw in a volleyball part of a volleyball mom's Facebook group.
602
00:44:33,432 --> 00:44:36,802
Mark Burik:
But I know they said that they're not going to call doubles indoor next year.
603
00:44:36,936 --> 00:44:40,990
Steven Roschitz:
That is the path that I think USAV is going.
604
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,434
Steven Roschitz:
I think if the ball, it doesn't give you a clear advantage to double.
605
00:44:45,542 --> 00:44:48,850
Steven Roschitz:
So if IAA ball, it's not a good set.
606
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:50,374
Steven Roschitz:
It's not where I wanted it to go.
607
00:44:50,472 --> 00:44:51,926
Steven Roschitz:
It's probably not the right height.
608
00:44:51,998 --> 00:44:53,906
Steven Roschitz:
It's probably not the right location.
609
00:44:54,098 --> 00:44:55,982
Steven Roschitz:
It doesn't benefit me to double.
610
00:44:56,066 --> 00:45:00,900
Steven Roschitz:
But if my partner saves it and scores, that should be part of the game.
611
00:45:01,950 --> 00:45:05,750
Steven Roschitz:
Let's say you're jumping backwards and I think the lift is an unfair advantage.
612
00:45:05,810 --> 00:45:06,670
Steven Roschitz:
You're out of position.
613
00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:09,802
Steven Roschitz:
I've now lifted the ball and put it where it's supposed to be.
614
00:45:09,936 --> 00:45:11,222
Steven Roschitz:
That is an unfair advantage.
615
00:45:11,246 --> 00:45:14,986
Steven Roschitz:
But if my hands are high and I contact it, it's not creating advantages for me.
616
00:45:15,048 --> 00:45:17,834
Steven Roschitz:
Like if the ball is mishandled, it's mishandled.
617
00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:19,642
Steven Roschitz:
So it's a worse set than it should be.
618
00:45:19,656 --> 00:45:22,174
Steven Roschitz:
I'm already penalized if my header takes care of it.
619
00:45:22,332 --> 00:45:23,746
Steven Roschitz:
I think that should be part of the game.
620
00:45:23,808 --> 00:45:27,314
Steven Roschitz:
I think if it creates an unfair advantage, they should call some kind of ball handling.
621
00:45:27,362 --> 00:45:32,940
Steven Roschitz:
So like obviously lifting the ball or throwing it from back behind your shoulder or whatever it is.
622
00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:34,078
Mark Burik:
I don't think it does.
623
00:45:34,104 --> 00:45:35,374
Mark Burik:
I'm a classical real guy.
624
00:45:35,412 --> 00:45:38,638
Mark Burik:
So we'll just come back with the argument like, yeah, well, that's not a set.
625
00:45:38,784 --> 00:45:39,974
Mark Burik:
So that is an advantage.
626
00:45:40,022 --> 00:45:44,138
Mark Burik:
Like setting ugly is already an advantage because it allows you to be less athletic.
627
00:45:44,174 --> 00:45:47,450
Mark Burik:
And it's like to me, no, it doesn't allow you to be less athletic.
628
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:50,354
Mark Burik:
It just changes the nature of the skill.
629
00:45:50,462 --> 00:45:51,430
Mark Burik:
That's it.
630
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,194
Mark Burik:
And so you get that way.
631
00:45:53,232 --> 00:45:59,170
Mark Burik:
But there are these hardcore people out there who love the way handsetting has been.
632
00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:05,386
Mark Burik:
They believe in the path of attrition almost that you have to go through just to be able to have a quality set.
633
00:46:05,448 --> 00:46:07,270
Mark Burik:
And also it confuses fans.
634
00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:12,370
Mark Burik:
My wife is still cheering for a point while everybody else is going.
635
00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:16,126
Mark Burik:
And she's like, what happened for seven years.
636
00:46:16,188 --> 00:46:16,800
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
637
00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:23,170
Mark Burik:
So it hurts the game that we don't have a clear cut way to determine it.
638
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,658
Mark Burik:
And I think that skill needs to be opened for lower levels so that people are willing to try it.
639
00:46:27,684 --> 00:46:32,050
Mark Burik:
And I just don't think that at the B level, I think there should be zero doubles calls no matter what.
640
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:36,060
Mark Burik:
And then it's like, okay, now you'll learn how to control it way better.
641
00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:38,002
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
642
00:46:38,016 --> 00:46:39,466
Steven Roschitz:
And once you keep doing it.
643
00:46:39,648 --> 00:46:43,994
Steven Roschitz:
But again, let's say you play in your first B tournament and it's your first tournament ever playing.
644
00:46:44,042 --> 00:46:48,238
Steven Roschitz:
You go up with two hands and the ball has backspin and it flies 12ft off the net.
645
00:46:48,324 --> 00:46:49,490
Steven Roschitz:
You've already been penalized.
646
00:46:49,550 --> 00:46:51,074
Steven Roschitz:
Your partner is running backwards.
647
00:46:51,182 --> 00:46:52,800
Steven Roschitz:
If they FREEBALL, it over.
648
00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:54,310
Steven Roschitz:
Good job by you.
649
00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:04,330
Steven Roschitz:
But why is that an automatic point? Why is a new skill that somebody probably hasn't done? Why does that count? The other guy on the other side? We're not playing that ball because it's not clean.
650
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,322
Steven Roschitz:
I think it's just like, you don't see that.
651
00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:13,802
Steven Roschitz:
basketball.
652
00:47:13,886 --> 00:47:14,446
Steven Roschitz:
I don't know.
653
00:47:14,508 --> 00:47:18,178
Steven Roschitz:
Like, imagine you hit a bad serve in tennis and it still goes in.
654
00:47:18,264 --> 00:47:20,222
Steven Roschitz:
But the guy's like, no, that was ugly.
655
00:47:20,306 --> 00:47:24,734
Mark Burik:
We're going to take it, right? You can hit like the frame of the racket and it's still perfectly legal.
656
00:47:24,782 --> 00:47:26,738
Mark Burik:
They're just like, but you hit the frame of the racket.
657
00:47:26,774 --> 00:47:28,178
Mark Burik:
So it's not going to be a good shot.
658
00:47:28,274 --> 00:47:29,926
Mark Burik:
Every now and then it will work out in your favor.
659
00:47:29,988 --> 00:47:32,760
Mark Burik:
But you're not going to intentionally do it because it's exactly.
660
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:35,422
Steven Roschitz:
I think they should just get rid of it.
661
00:47:35,556 --> 00:47:42,358
Steven Roschitz:
And even at pro level, again, if it creates an unfair advantage, something right, lift, double, whatever you want to call it.
662
00:47:42,384 --> 00:47:46,934
Steven Roschitz:
But I don't think that it doesn't positively benefit you when you mishandle the ball.
663
00:47:46,982 --> 00:47:50,734
Mark Burik:
So for the people out there listening right now.
664
00:47:50,772 --> 00:47:57,542
Mark Burik:
If you're in the comments section or if you want to throw to the comments on the recorded podcast, just go ahead and give us your opinion.
665
00:47:57,626 --> 00:48:14,974
Mark Burik:
I like to hear if you think that setting is strict enough, if it should be stricter, if you think that the ABP and the fiber, you're getting too loose, or do you think that we should just do away with doubles? As far as a penalty call, be interested to know where the percentages are on it.
666
00:48:15,132 --> 00:48:18,658
Mark Burik:
Again, I know a number of people that are just like, absolutely not.
667
00:48:18,744 --> 00:48:20,062
Mark Burik:
Keep it as strict as possible.
668
00:48:20,136 --> 00:48:21,806
Mark Burik:
It's a skill that you have to earn.
669
00:48:21,938 --> 00:48:26,438
Mark Burik:
But I can see that it can hurt the sport and it miscues fans.
670
00:48:26,594 --> 00:48:29,650
Mark Burik:
Where you get this confusion once the play happens.
671
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:45,950
Mark Burik:
But then some people then argue like, all right, well, half of the population doesn't understand, like football, and it still becomes a great sport, right? You're like, what is this, 510, 15 yards? For what? Who did what? We'll see and we'll see what people say age old debate.
672
00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:47,006
Mark Burik:
All right.
673
00:48:47,068 --> 00:48:48,618
Mark Burik:
Just a couple more questions for you, Steve.
674
00:48:48,654 --> 00:49:06,330
Mark Burik:
I'm wondering if there's anything right now that you and Peter or just you are currently putting into your game or something that you're working on or focusing on at practice and how you're doing
675
00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:16,214
Steven Roschitz:
for me, Pete is working on specifically just blocking. He's a very good shot blocker, probably his basketball background, but his timing and if there's a ball high over the net, I don't even have to move typically because he's going to SWAT it.
676
00:49:16,252 --> 00:49:20,562
Steven Roschitz:
He's working on sort of that hand positioning and shaping those hard driven lower seam balls.
677
00:49:20,586 --> 00:49:25,430
Steven Roschitz:
So that's something that he's actively every time we go out and practice is something he's shooting for.
678
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:38,718
Mark Burik:
Is it like hard driven, both hands going or just the individual hand placement that he wants to be covering wide or more narrow or just more versatile?
679
00:49:38,754 --> 00:49:46,022
Steven Roschitz:
I would say versatile as far as seeing that late angle. It's like let's say you're blocking a ball and he's swinging inside your left hand, dropping the left hand, but also bringing the right as well.
680
00:49:46,216 --> 00:49:47,402
Steven Roschitz:
You've made the read.
681
00:49:47,476 --> 00:49:57,710
Steven Roschitz:
Now it's more about, okay, I know this ball is going here, like the last second adjustment where you're putting both hands into that clamp and being able to press both without having that sort of flat tooling surface.
682
00:49:58,690 --> 00:50:00,462
Steven Roschitz:
He's 67 and he jumps.
683
00:50:00,486 --> 00:50:02,990
Steven Roschitz:
Well, it's a thing where he can literally press.
684
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,326
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, he's pretty big, but he can press.
685
00:50:06,388 --> 00:50:09,870
Steven Roschitz:
It's just the hand manipulation and the timing to put it in the right zone.
686
00:50:09,930 --> 00:50:20,222
Steven Roschitz:
Like this is something that I'm a small blocker, but that's the only part I do well, is taking away that if you hit in that small semicircle across the top of the net, I'm going to probably at least touch it or block it.
687
00:50:20,356 --> 00:50:23,870
Mark Burik:
Yeah, I think that comes from our defense.
688
00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:26,090
Mark Burik:
You can see what somebody's doing.
689
00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:32,658
Mark Burik:
So now I have to be over here sticking my hands in the way for people who jump.
690
00:50:32,694 --> 00:50:38,534
Mark Burik:
They get stuck in the air and they have all this range and they end up here.
691
00:50:38,572 --> 00:50:43,742
Steven Roschitz:
So for him, we're really working on taking away those lower angles because he does really well at the upper end.
692
00:50:43,756 --> 00:51:15,998
Mark Burik:
Do you think if a guy is six one that they should be reading and changing their hand position as a blocker for smaller blockers out there who are like high, do you think they should be more positional or would you tell them as well, hey, if you see it, go get it, because if you see it and you go get it and you're Andy Mole and you're 610 with a 48th for whatever, right? Yeah, of course, because you get both shoulders already over the net and you're still penetrating when you're reaching outside,
693
00:51:16,024 --> 00:51:16,934
Steven Roschitz:
I think and this is my personal stance and I did qualify once as a blocker, so it puts me I think I can talk about that. You know what you're talking about.
694
00:51:16,972 --> 00:51:27,342
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, I think smaller blockers, you almost need to ditch the one, twos, threes and fours calls and focus on taking away like hard driven.
695
00:51:27,426 --> 00:51:31,922
Steven Roschitz:
If I'm a smaller blocker and I'm going and blocking a line, it's like you jump on the line.
696
00:51:31,996 --> 00:51:35,946
Steven Roschitz:
Not only are you probably giving up high line, but you're probably giving up the angle.
697
00:51:36,138 --> 00:51:37,806
Steven Roschitz:
You're giving up multiple shots.
698
00:51:37,878 --> 00:51:41,318
Steven Roschitz:
So as an undersized blocker, it's our middle finger call.
699
00:51:41,344 --> 00:51:47,502
Steven Roschitz:
But it's basically a ball block, right? I'm going to read the ball and I'm going to take away the hard driven.
700
00:51:47,586 --> 00:51:48,950
Steven Roschitz:
Whatever I see is going to be hard.
701
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,566
Steven Roschitz:
So if I see somebody committing their body weight to the line, I'm going to go dive and grab line.
702
00:51:54,688 --> 00:51:56,318
Steven Roschitz:
I don't want them to hit on me.
703
00:51:56,344 --> 00:51:59,790
Steven Roschitz:
The only ball I can effectively take away is the hard driven low tape ball.
704
00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:00,110
Steven Roschitz:
Right.
705
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,534
Mark Burik:
Where does your defenders stand when you're doing that? Because the argument would be like, well, then they're going to get burned down the line.
706
00:52:05,572 --> 00:52:13,950
Mark Burik:
When you said that you should have blocked line, and what am I supposed to do as a defender? So how do you defender play that as a defender, you can see the play developing.
707
00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:21,114
Steven Roschitz:
So when you see your blocker taking a step out and committing to something, me, naturally I shift away from that sort of balance the court.
708
00:52:21,222 --> 00:52:22,638
Steven Roschitz:
So I'm swinging out wide.
709
00:52:22,674 --> 00:52:28,382
Steven Roschitz:
If I see the ball going tight to the line, close to the antenna, my blocker's hands are diving into that line.
710
00:52:28,516 --> 00:52:32,054
Steven Roschitz:
I'm naturally going to move away into the left side, into the seam in the middle.
711
00:52:32,092 --> 00:52:32,834
Mark Burik:
That's tough to do.
712
00:52:32,872 --> 00:52:41,222
Mark Burik:
It is to move away from your natural instinct because like as a defender, we probably both want to go towards where we know that they're trying to hit.
713
00:52:41,296 --> 00:52:44,910
Mark Burik:
You have to release to the opposite for the just in case ball.
714
00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:45,338
Steven Roschitz:
Yes.
715
00:52:45,424 --> 00:52:51,102
Steven Roschitz:
Because if you doubled up on hard, swinging hard angle, you're going to get burned somewhere.
716
00:52:51,186 --> 00:52:54,090
Steven Roschitz:
But the thought process behind it is I'm going to block.
717
00:52:54,210 --> 00:52:57,158
Steven Roschitz:
If they hit this ball hard, I'm going to block it.
718
00:52:57,184 --> 00:53:00,626
Steven Roschitz:
So what we're trying to cause with that is let's say they wrist away.
719
00:53:00,688 --> 00:53:01,610
Steven Roschitz:
That's the ball you dig.
720
00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:13,538
Steven Roschitz:
So if I have a small block and they're just blasting in the angle, even if it's directly at me, how many balls do you dig that are hit full speed directly at you? It feels good when you do, but it does.
721
00:53:13,564 --> 00:53:15,254
Steven Roschitz:
It sure does.
722
00:53:15,352 --> 00:53:17,714
Steven Roschitz:
But you don't take many of those.
723
00:53:17,812 --> 00:53:24,918
Steven Roschitz:
So the thought process is let the block take away that swing and get into a position where you can then dig the digger ball.
724
00:53:24,954 --> 00:53:29,562
Steven Roschitz:
So let's say they had an off speed or like a chop at the last second, something slower.
725
00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:31,202
Steven Roschitz:
That's the ball you want to be on.
726
00:53:31,276 --> 00:53:36,854
Steven Roschitz:
And I see it a ton at the local level for blockers is over blocking line.
727
00:53:37,012 --> 00:53:41,634
Steven Roschitz:
So the blocker ends up on the line, and then they have 4ft into the angle.
728
00:53:41,682 --> 00:53:44,570
Steven Roschitz:
It's like anybody can side out with that much space.
729
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,962
Steven Roschitz:
Like just teeing off into the angle.
730
00:53:47,046 --> 00:53:51,626
Steven Roschitz:
You don't even have to hit the ball hard just away from the defender, or they just hit the ball extremely hard.
731
00:53:51,688 --> 00:53:52,290
Steven Roschitz:
No spin.
732
00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:53,750
Steven Roschitz:
You're not digging that ball.
733
00:53:55,390 --> 00:53:57,306
Steven Roschitz:
You want to be a more conservative blocker.
734
00:53:57,318 --> 00:53:59,094
Steven Roschitz:
You want to go more into the seams.
735
00:53:59,142 --> 00:54:00,410
Steven Roschitz:
Don't give up so much space.
736
00:54:00,460 --> 00:54:03,182
Steven Roschitz:
Just get right in the midline and take away what you see.
737
00:54:03,376 --> 00:54:03,770
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
738
00:54:03,820 --> 00:54:10,014
Mark Burik:
That's the first thing that we go to with blockers is like learning how to take a charge wherever that hitters traveling.
739
00:54:10,182 --> 00:54:17,750
Mark Burik:
Get your chest right in the middle and make sure that if they were to keep going forward and the route that they're going, that they're going to jump straight into you and knock you over.
740
00:54:17,860 --> 00:54:23,282
Mark Burik:
That's got to be your first ability to do that instead of thinking about what's behind you.
741
00:54:23,356 --> 00:54:26,894
Mark Burik:
I think a lot of people think about the space behind them instead of what's really good.
742
00:54:26,992 --> 00:54:28,058
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah, that's a really good point.
743
00:54:28,084 --> 00:54:34,170
Steven Roschitz:
They're thinking about what am I taking away as far as court space goes, but the hitter tells I call angle of approach.
744
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:38,658
Steven Roschitz:
So if you're looking at their angle of approach, they're going to tell you where they are going to hit the ball the hardest.
745
00:54:38,754 --> 00:54:41,966
Steven Roschitz:
And some people have some crazy cross body lines or thumb downs or whatever.
746
00:54:42,028 --> 00:54:45,354
Steven Roschitz:
But for the most part, people hit their hardest ball in line with their approach.
747
00:54:45,402 --> 00:54:51,494
Steven Roschitz:
So if they're wide and the Ball's inside and they're coming in at an aggressive angle, you get in front of that aggressive angle, you're taking away their hardest way.
748
00:54:51,532 --> 00:54:56,090
Steven Roschitz:
So as far as read blocking goes, that is super key.
749
00:54:56,140 --> 00:54:57,338
Steven Roschitz:
I like taking a charge, though.
750
00:54:57,364 --> 00:54:58,814
Steven Roschitz:
That's a good way to think of it.
751
00:54:58,852 --> 00:55:00,674
Steven Roschitz:
Like just getting in front of them and going out.
752
00:55:00,712 --> 00:55:01,166
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
753
00:55:01,288 --> 00:55:09,410
Mark Burik:
At least if somebody's injured, they can't jump or you want to cut their jumps during practice, that's at the very least that you can get that footwork going late.
754
00:55:10,690 --> 00:55:11,054
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
755
00:55:11,092 --> 00:55:16,074
Mark Burik:
And you see that at the high level, too, where people are doing a read block.
756
00:55:16,122 --> 00:55:20,978
Mark Burik:
And I think the Norwegians I'm not going to say the first, but maybe the best to really expose it.
757
00:55:21,004 --> 00:55:29,586
Mark Burik:
And if you really watch a lot of films, you'll see that sometimes defenders don't move to the line or the angle.
758
00:55:29,778 --> 00:55:34,430
Mark Burik:
They just sit middle, and their choice is to dig all of the shots.
759
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:40,902
Mark Burik:
And they're like, the only thing that they might dig is if they get blasted with a high ball to the middle of the court.
760
00:55:40,926 --> 00:55:46,430
Mark Burik:
I think people always the addiction to needing to be either in the line or the cross.
761
00:55:47,110 --> 00:55:51,258
Mark Burik:
More players who would serve them if they floated in the middle chilled.
762
00:55:51,294 --> 00:55:53,694
Mark Burik:
And they just said, I have no responsibility for hard swings.
763
00:55:53,742 --> 00:55:56,010
Mark Burik:
I'm just going to get stuff that goes high and over a block.
764
00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:57,134
Steven Roschitz:
That's the ball we run.
765
00:55:57,172 --> 00:55:58,070
Steven Roschitz:
That a ton.
766
00:55:58,180 --> 00:55:59,162
Steven Roschitz:
We run it a ton.
767
00:55:59,236 --> 00:56:01,146
Steven Roschitz:
Like it's big athletic blocker.
768
00:56:01,218 --> 00:56:05,114
Steven Roschitz:
And again, am I going to dig the hard driven ball in the right spot? Maybe.
769
00:56:05,212 --> 00:56:09,894
Steven Roschitz:
But if there's a ball that goes up and down, I know I have a chance to transition.
770
00:56:09,942 --> 00:56:11,246
Steven Roschitz:
That's my thought process.
771
00:56:11,428 --> 00:56:14,150
Steven Roschitz:
If I can get to that shot, that's great.
772
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,506
Steven Roschitz:
And at the pro level, if I can get three of those a game, that's good.
773
00:56:18,568 --> 00:56:20,898
Steven Roschitz:
I'm not worried about digging three beams.
774
00:56:20,994 --> 00:56:22,334
Steven Roschitz:
It hits a bomb at me.
775
00:56:22,432 --> 00:56:26,078
Steven Roschitz:
I'm not digging three absolute crushed balls in the game.
776
00:56:26,164 --> 00:56:36,486
Mark Burik:
Like, if I'm lucky, that'd be awesome statistics when it makes them hit like 87, 90% because they're just slightly offered.
777
00:56:36,498 --> 00:56:37,502
Mark Burik:
They second guess themselves.
778
00:56:37,576 --> 00:56:39,842
Mark Burik:
And that's when that's now the opportunity.
779
00:56:40,036 --> 00:56:40,646
Steven Roschitz:
Exactly.
780
00:56:40,768 --> 00:56:41,162
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
781
00:56:41,236 --> 00:56:42,138
Steven Roschitz:
The diggable balls.
782
00:56:42,174 --> 00:56:43,278
Steven Roschitz:
We want the diggable balls.
783
00:56:43,314 --> 00:56:45,760
Steven Roschitz:
We don't want the perfect in system.
784
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:50,534
Steven Roschitz:
My blockers on the line and I'm looking at six eight coming at me this way.
785
00:56:50,572 --> 00:56:52,926
Steven Roschitz:
Like, I'm not worried about that ball.
786
00:56:52,998 --> 00:56:53,860
Mark Burik:
Here you go.
787
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:57,620
Steven Roschitz:
One hand up, one hand down.
788
00:56:59,690 --> 00:57:00,042
Mark Burik:
All right.
789
00:57:00,056 --> 00:57:17,406
Mark Burik:
Well, Steve, are there any tools or equipment that are for you absolute must have when you're at practice, at a match, on the road, at home or at gym?
790
00:57:17,468 --> 00:57:23,730
Steven Roschitz:
I would say as far as recovery goes, like, I have a new hyperbole that I think makes a huge difference. The Hypervolt plus, yes, it was a gift for my girlfriend for my birthday.
791
00:57:25,070 --> 00:57:31,230
Steven Roschitz:
So she got me this and I've noticed a huge difference as far as sort of that onset soreness that comes on.
792
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,334
Steven Roschitz:
Like if you use the gun regularly while you're playing or when I'm coaching, I'll be on the bench.
793
00:57:36,502 --> 00:57:37,870
Steven Roschitz:
They're a gun in my shoulder.
794
00:57:37,930 --> 00:57:43,518
Steven Roschitz:
And I think there's something to it as far as recovery aspect because I feel fantastic post getting that.
795
00:57:43,604 --> 00:57:55,398
Steven Roschitz:
As far as implements, the only thing I say for a lot of footwork stuff, really, when I first started using a weight vest, again, after probably acclimating to it, you don't want to just throw on £20 and blow your knees out.
796
00:57:55,424 --> 00:58:12,522
Steven Roschitz:
Obviously, if you put on a little ten pound vest for some of your footwork stuff, like dropping to a need to pass or working on a sideline ball or the blocking footwork and a little jump, like some of them were conservative movements where you're not diving with 20 pounds on your back, obviously, don't play a full message.
797
00:58:12,596 --> 00:58:14,758
Mark Burik:
Don't go through a full practice with your weight vest.
798
00:58:14,854 --> 00:58:24,618
Steven Roschitz:
I tried that in College and my coach was like, no, I did it in College and I do it to this day because I've acclimated to it.
799
00:58:24,644 --> 00:58:28,050
Steven Roschitz:
So like 15 pounds, it's a tight vest, too, so it fits well.
800
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:28,820
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
801
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:37,714
Steven Roschitz:
I played a couple of tournaments in Texas while wearing one without telling people just because for me that was part of my growth.
802
00:58:37,762 --> 00:58:38,010
Steven Roschitz:
Right.
803
00:58:38,060 --> 00:58:43,462
Steven Roschitz:
But if you want to make sure that you start moving quicker in some of these footwork areas in the Sands.
804
00:58:43,546 --> 00:58:51,094
Steven Roschitz:
I think adding a little bit of that weight patterning, that same ball over and over again, then you take that vest off and the movement is now patterned way faster.
805
00:58:51,142 --> 00:58:59,182
Steven Roschitz:
So as far as doing certain setting drills or defensive footwork getting into position, whatever it is, adding a little bit of weight made me learn things a lot faster.
806
00:58:59,206 --> 00:59:02,430
Steven Roschitz:
And I also lift a lot of weights, and I'm very body conscious.
807
00:59:03,050 --> 00:59:04,170
Mark Burik:
Don't get out there.
808
00:59:04,220 --> 00:59:14,542
Mark Burik:
And if you're not lifting weights, if you can't maybe squat your body weight, like this is not the time for you to throw in a weight vest and try a bunch of plyometric fields.
809
00:59:14,566 --> 00:59:16,578
Mark Burik:
So you need that base of strength first.
810
00:59:16,664 --> 00:59:21,222
Steven Roschitz:
Yes, but I would say that was the only implement I would use.
811
00:59:21,236 --> 00:59:22,654
Steven Roschitz:
We don't use a ton of stuff at practice.
812
00:59:22,702 --> 00:59:24,870
Steven Roschitz:
Just a box and shoulders.
813
00:59:25,310 --> 00:59:25,746
Mark Burik:
Nice.
814
00:59:25,808 --> 00:59:34,954
Mark Burik:
And when you go to a tournament, is there any, like, secret goodies, secret gummy bears? Do you always have to have a Red Bull, a C four? I'm very caffeinated.
815
00:59:35,002 --> 00:59:48,178
Steven Roschitz:
Typically before a tournament, I have probably, like I would say 150 to 200 milligrams of caffeine, like whether that's coffee or like a Celsius or whatever that is for those people out there in a coffee, just one black cup of coffee.
816
00:59:48,214 --> 00:59:52,438
Mark Burik:
Like a regular size cup of coffee, you're looking at somewhere around 80 to 100 milligrams.
817
00:59:52,474 --> 00:59:57,310
Mark Burik:
It's probably a large cup of coffee or maybe two regular sizes.
818
00:59:57,370 --> 00:59:57,594
Steven Roschitz:
Yeah.
819
00:59:57,632 --> 01:00:00,594
Steven Roschitz:
And everybody's different as far as caffeine tolerance goes.
820
01:00:00,632 --> 01:00:06,622
Steven Roschitz:
But I think play better when I'm a little bit more tuned in and caffeine gets the blood flowing, the dilation.
821
01:00:06,706 --> 01:00:08,394
Steven Roschitz:
And I think it's important for me.
822
01:00:08,492 --> 01:00:09,834
Steven Roschitz:
It's just something I do now.
823
01:00:09,872 --> 01:00:15,274
Steven Roschitz:
I think it's important other than that they don't eat a ton tournament days, just carbs and water and salt.
824
01:00:15,322 --> 01:00:18,490
Steven Roschitz:
Saltins, literally, or like a loaf of bread.
825
01:00:18,550 --> 01:00:24,934
Steven Roschitz:
I'll go home and just eat literally saltine crackers, like 107 degrees outside in Texas.
826
01:00:24,982 --> 01:00:29,074
Steven Roschitz:
We're playing, and I'll eat a sleeve of saltines while I'm playing.
827
01:00:29,122 --> 01:00:35,022
Steven Roschitz:
And that's it just one of those two of those in water.
828
01:00:35,096 --> 01:00:36,414
Steven Roschitz:
And my balance is good.
829
01:00:36,452 --> 01:00:37,042
Steven Roschitz:
I have carbs.
830
01:00:37,066 --> 01:00:37,506
Steven Roschitz:
I have energy.
831
01:00:37,568 --> 01:00:41,622
Steven Roschitz:
It's very basic, but there's no secret carb, salt, water.
832
01:00:41,756 --> 01:00:45,394
Steven Roschitz:
I think it's the most important thing people the way they snack.
833
01:00:45,442 --> 01:00:46,962
Steven Roschitz:
Sometimes I want to eat light.
834
01:00:47,036 --> 01:00:52,554
Mark Burik:
So then they bring a salad and it's just like, no, you have zero energy for all of today.
835
01:00:52,712 --> 01:00:58,940
Mark Burik:
The carbohydrate intake is massively important for the large majority of everyone.
836
01:01:00,230 --> 01:01:06,270
Mark Burik:
If you want to perform that day and then the night before, a little bit car Bloating helps to get that carbohydrate store.
837
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,654
Mark Burik:
But during the day, fruit, if you want to go bread and salt jeans.
838
01:01:10,702 --> 01:01:12,178
Mark Burik:
Hey, you're getting rips.
839
01:01:12,334 --> 01:01:12,834
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
840
01:01:12,932 --> 01:01:19,018
Steven Roschitz:
And I try to stay away from I don't do any sugar or anything typically, but especially when I'm playing.
841
01:01:19,114 --> 01:01:21,382
Steven Roschitz:
I think one time I had full body cramps.
842
01:01:21,466 --> 01:01:38,780
Steven Roschitz:
I drank like, two or three Gatorades, never again, never again, personally, 100 degrees in Texas, and you got to be careful with what you're putting in your body as far as that stuff goes, and everybody's different, but I would be hard pressed to drink a Gatorade while playing again, like a sugar one.
843
01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:55,930
Mark Burik:
Are there any projects that you're working on right now? And for everybody who's just trying to reach out, wants to follow you, wants to see your journey and see what you're up to, where should they follow you? Should they reach out on Instagram? Yeah, I say Instagram.
844
01:01:56,670 --> 01:02:15,958
Steven Roschitz:
Instagram typically sees it first, and no, there's not a have any websites running or anything, just currently still chasing the now yellow and black volleyball, so me and Peter are going to be playing NVA team, which is the indoor League in the US, we're playing indoor, if you guys want to check that out too, they have a pretty cool stream of.
845
01:02:15,984 --> 01:02:20,642
Mark Burik:
Are you guys coming out to California for this tournament next week? I know Southern Exposures here because Chad Brown.
846
01:02:20,666 --> 01:02:21,814
Steven Roschitz:
Yes, so that's the one.
847
01:02:21,852 --> 01:02:22,690
Steven Roschitz:
That's the one.
848
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:23,878
Steven Roschitz:
That's exactly the one.
849
01:02:23,904 --> 01:02:24,838
Steven Roschitz:
So that'll be in.
850
01:02:24,864 --> 01:02:34,642
Steven Roschitz:
We're flying into Ontario and I forget Ten, Burgundy knows where it is, that's where the actual facility is, yeah, we'll be there, at least for one game, so we'll see you there.
851
01:02:34,836 --> 01:02:52,846
Steven Roschitz:
Is Chad playing this year?
852
01:02:52,968 --> 01:03:03,734
Mark Burik:
Yes, he's staying with me, he's now working for a Bitter Beach and he's, like, taking over social media, awesome, and he's just a great dude for anybody who hasn't met Java to the volleyball world, like, you got to go hang out with him, cool. For those people who are listening, Steve's Instagram is O-S-C-H-I-T-R-O-S-C-H-I-T-Z-O Shichroshitz.
853
01:03:03,842 --> 01:03:19,202
Mark Burik:
Oh, I get it, there you go, just got that for the first time, and we will, of course, include it in the show notes so that you guys can go ahead and follow him and click on his links, Steve, thanks for talking, man, nice getting to know you, nice hearing about your journey and see you on the phone, Fan.
854
01:03:19,286 --> 01:03:21,290
Steven Roschitz:
Awesome, thanks for having me on, bye.
