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I think a lot of people, especially people who are sort of cautious about handsetting because they don't want to double or get embarrassed.
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A lot of people focus on their hands.
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And I would say a good set starts with your feet.
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Like your feet are more important than your hands, for sure, being able to get in the correct position and have your balance in a certain way where your whole body is setting into emotion.
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Like my set starts with my feet through my legs, through my core.
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And then your hands are the last thing that really influenced the ball.
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And that's where reps come.
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And you could sit against the wall and do this, whatever your release is.
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You can do that a million times and not get tired and you can get a million hands reps.
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The footwork that you're talking about is what actually creates good angles.
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So if I'm setting from 10ft off, I need to take two steps, make sure my right foot is planted really hard.
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So I'm pushing off that right foot.
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My whole body is letting go of it.
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And I think a lot of people are too concerned about their hands and not concerned enough about their body positioning in relation to where I need the ball to go and what direction the ball is taking me.
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So I need to change the direction.
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It's not my hands changing the direction, it's my whole body changing the direction.
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Welcome to the Better at Beach Volleyball Podcast.
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My name is Mark Burik and we here at Beach Volleyball Podcast talk about everything you need to become a better player, coach, fan enthusiasts.
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And we talk to great volleyball minds and athletes and try to glean a little bit of knowledge from them and their journey.
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And today we have a very special guest from Texas, coaching currently for 210 Beach Volleyball Club where they just dominated at nationals.
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And his most important stat is that he is currently on the AVPT two undefeated against Mark Burik.
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So without further Ado, Steven Roshitz.
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Steve, welcome, buddy.
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Congrats on your undefeated.
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Right now it's about 11:00 Texas time.
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You're living in Texas.
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You're coaching a lot.
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What was this morning like for you? What did you do? Just waking up?
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This is the first weekend I've had off from traveling in about seven weeks. So this morning I slept in nice on my average morning, like on a basically Monday to Wednesday, we get up and we train earlier, probably about nine.
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So I get up and I trained with my partner Pete.
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Nine to eleven in that kind of time slot.
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Really? Yes, sir.
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Do you guys have a training group that you typically go with? Do you have a coach that you're working with and where are you guys practicing? In Texas?
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We have a group that's kind of rotating. We have some local guys.
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One guy, Brandon Severn, is getting into it.
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He's played a couple of different qualifiers and then a couple of other homies that come out and kind of hop in when they want to get in, I guess.
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And then there's a couple of dudes from Austin who drive down every now and then, kind of give us a rotating group from anywhere.
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Like, sometimes it's just me and Pete and just two of us working on individual stuff.
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Sometimes there's four people, and yesterday we had eight, so we had two course rolling, and we practice at Sideliners, which is like a beach bar over here.
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And it's like half a mile down the road.
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It's got deep sand, and they let us have a key to the back door.
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So we just come in, hang out whenever we need to.
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And a heavy hometown crowd, from what I remember.
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They love their boys.
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It's a tough place to come play, especially when the beer starts flowing a little bit.
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Oh, man, it's so much fun.
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I've always been like, bring it on, audience hammer it because if nobody is saying anything, it means they don't care.
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I'd rather the people who are watching, at least they care.
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And if they're going to hang on me all day long.
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Yeah, I put myself out here.
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I'm ready for this.
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Bring it on.
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Yeah, it's definitely fun.
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Yeah, it is.
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And nice giant size cold beers afterwards.
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Now, do you think it's tough in Texas where you guys are that's in San Antonio? Yeah.
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It's tough there in that neighborhood to be two of really the only guys who are competing, I guess Le Tucker, if he comes around every now and then.
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Yeah, he moved to, like, SoCal.
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He moved out Yellow's way, I think.
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So he's no longer in Texas.
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Is that even tougher, like, with the crowd? How do you get your practices in at the level that you can play at?.
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That's always been the toughest part, obviously, is learning to compete in those I would say top 25, top 30 matches. Those are the guys.
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We don't see them every day.
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So when we go to compete, it's sort of like a one on one.
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Like we haven't seen so and so and so we just have to figure out how to win from our side.
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So the first year we started playing, the first year I played in Texas, I was a blocker, so I was a full time blocker, and I actually qualified with Lila in 2018.
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So it was like our cumulative height was six foot.
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I'll give him 511.
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So he's 511, I'm 61.
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And it was just like figure out how to win.
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And we had a good chemistry because we played College ball together indoor.
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And once I got the points there and kind of convinced Pete to come out, we had some mutual friends in San Antonio.
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It randomly happened, and he's like, hey, you got to meet my boy, bring him out, bring him out.
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So he came out to play, and once we had decided to play, it was how good can our offense be? It doesn't matter what they're serving at us and how tough can I serve? It doesn't matter who you're playing.
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If you can serve the ball extremely tough and you can fight out on any ball.
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The rest of it is just battling and experience.
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So that was sort of the mindset.
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It's like we don't need to have the best training group.
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We don't need eight of the top 30 dudes out here training.
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We can make it work with just us.
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And I feel like it also gives us a bit of an advantage because nobody sees us on a daily basis.
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It's like we show up to a tournament and they can maybe go look up on YouTube or Facebook like a match, but it's hard to tell what's going on from those.
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Like, once you get in the game and Pete's huge and I'm hitting with both hands and it's all awkward.
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He's so calm when he's up there.
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He just never freaks out, gets excited all just straight away.
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And that in itself is intimidating.
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When you see somebody just like, homily going through, whether they miss or they crush, it just like the same reaction.
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You're like, what's going on in your head? Like, how am I going to fight this mental battle here? You got to give me something that I can take advantage of.
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But I don't think you guys do.
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You stay just mentally straight on straight edge, no matter where it's 1818 or one.
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I think there's again, to the fact that we don't trade.
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It's not like you see some of these Cali match ups and there's emotion behind the game, and it's like they've been training against each other or practicing, and they know each other's tendencies, and there's, like, this expectation to where you're supposed to know what to do to beat these guys.
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And then when it doesn't happen, that creates frustration.
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And for us, it's like we know every good team is a good team, and we're going to literally just do our best and it works out well most of the time, obviously.
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But when we start playing some of those top tier teams, you can't make any errors, and if they have a better read on our tendencies, and that's where the tough games come in. So I would love to see sometimes,
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do you do any of the film work? Like, do you jump on YouTube and take a look at who you might play the next day? Once you came out to Manhattan, were you like, we might play these teams? Let's just get a look at it, check out some film, or are you one of those film addicts anyway, so you're like, constantly watching?
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I hate film, so I hate watching film. I'd say I never watch my own film, so I have a very good memory, like for matches, for my own movements, I can remember each and every ball that I messed up, and that's just in here already.
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So it's inherent, like what we need to work on and for.
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I would say the top.
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And it was nice when we had Amazon Prime.
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So in 2019, I would go through and I watched every single men's match that took place that's available to watch on there.
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So I watched every single match probably multiple times through and took notes based on the most accurate tendencies that we could find, what they did, who they were playing, what kind of shots to get one kind of blocker, those kinds of things.
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For the top 30 players, those are like that's who the target is on.
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But I would say not to be rude, but anybody below that we want to handle our physicality and speed of our game tends to just get us through those matches.
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So I don't dig through Facebook, like Facebook Lives and YouTube from 2017.
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I think it's just too much for some of those games where you just need to go and play.
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I think there's such a distinct difference between top 40 and then everything else.
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I don't know if it comes down to commerce.
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I do think it comes down to consistency.
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And necessarily I wouldn't say athleticism because I play guys in open local tournaments everywhere who can for sure out jump me or faster than me, quickly quicker than me.
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But I think it's just knowing consistent spots and almost like you're saying, just staying calm and knowing that your spots will work.
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In your experience, what do you think is the biggest difference? Like when you can just sit there and essentially crush like a San Antonio local and then you go in and you play in your first main draw? What's the difference between the team on the other side of the net that makes that ABP difference or the pro caliber difference?
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Absolutely. What you said is consistency.
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But I think to dive into that a little bit more is it's first contact.
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So if you're serving it's, how tough are you serving? And if you're serving it's, where am I actually hitting this ball from? So I think a lot of people at the lower level overlook those two things a lot, and you end up serving somebody a free ball and they're out of system.
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Like a local guy.
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Like, I can standing float.
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See, he's standing a certain way, put a ball over his right hip, and now we get a down ball, but against yourself.
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Or like we played Eric and Avery the other day, it's like I can serve a beam to the corner that would probably be an ace or definitely out of system and they'll handle it.
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And it's like, all right, well, that's the difference right there, because they're always in system versus a team that's almost always out of system.
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So you have to pass and you have to serve.
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Like, that is number one, I think.
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Do you think that we'll call like open players open players and we'll call pro players pro players? Do you think that open players don't know that they're passing poorly? Do you think that they think that they're passing is good enough if it's like somewhere in the first half of the court? Because there is that difference where you can put so much service pressure and you're hoping like as a pro, you're hoping maybe you can get this team out of system or a path that falls behind half court.
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You're hoping for that like twice a set.
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And if you did that as a server, you've done your job, literally.
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And that's the expectation that we hold ourselves to as pastors.
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It's like, no, every single pass is going to be in system, and if I have one over pass, that's a bad set of volleyball for me.
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Do you think that open players just don't know or they don't hold themselves to a standard or they aren't at that level yet? I think it's a combination of they're not dialed in specifically to where do I sign out well from?
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So it's like when you pass the ten foot line, it's slightly over the shoulder. You might not sight out well for that ball.
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Let's say you pass at the forefoot line.
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You get sort of like a hitting lines ball.
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If that's your 90% tile side out, that's where you have to put the ball.
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But I also think that a lot of open teams are limited from their handsetting.
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So for me and Pete, we didn't pass particularly well our first year.
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Just decent up in the air, and the out of system contacts is what saved us.
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So we would run out of system balls in system, because I'll literally handset from anywhere and Pete will literally hand set the ball from anywhere on the court.
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And I think that's sort of an equalizer.
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And you get to open, you see a lot of dudes running and bump setting that ball over the shoulder.
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Time to spin 60ft in the air.
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And instead of like track the ball down over the shoulder, push the ball exactly where it needs to be.
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And now that out of system contact fields in system.
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So I think open guys don't handle the speed well of certain float servers and jumpers, and I think that's what gets them, a lot of them out of the system.
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I don't think they see that speed on a consistent basis against other open teams.
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So when they see the speed from a pro team, it's like their eyes open up a bit and there's like, oh, I just can't pass today.
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I just can't pass.
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I just can't pass.
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I'm having a bad day, but it's actually being caused by the other person on the other side of the net.
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But when they're playing open teams, everything feels fine.
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And they're passing pretty well because the serves are so much less aggressive, whether that be jump, flows, floats, whatever it is.
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And I think that kind of lets them get lazier.
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You don't have to be instantaneously prepped to pass if somebody's going kind of low, slow, float serves, or if they're honestly, maybe this has happened to you.
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But when I was back in New York and then like in the pot stone rumble the grass, there are people that come out there and they just try.
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They say, well, we're not going to beat them head to head.
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So we might as well just last away our serves and see if we can get Aces.
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And then they're missing three quarters of their serves.
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So there's really no pressure.
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As a pastor, I think on the other side of it, because they're allowed to be may be lazier a little bit slower to a lot of the serves that they see.
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And they're not demanding that they pass exactly to the spot that they want to pass to.
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Like the thought of, well, if it's in the air and up, it's okay, it's good enough.
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Instead of like, no, it's not.
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You need to specifically aim every pass.
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And it's interesting when players do do that, that they just change their strategy based on or change their complete mindset based on who's on the other side they'll play against you and they'll just be like, well, we got to go balls to the wall serving and there's like zero pressure on you and you get to save energy
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or it's the other way around and they're popping in float serves to me and I'm just walking to it. And now I can see everything downhill.
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I can see the set here.
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Like, it's all very easy.
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Like, you need to find a happy medium of pressure versus and I don't know statistically what ace to error ratio and saying is good.
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We try to go like one to one.
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If I'm ripping jumpstarts and I miss, I would like an ace or an out of system ball to follow.
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And that's kind of how we are.
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And if I'm not getting that, then I'll switch the serves into something different.
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But I think the first contact is absolutely huge and it definitely separates those freak athlete open dudes and the pro guy.
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And that's like, I'm literally learning that right now myself.
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We're cracking into that top tier.
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And the only reason we lose games is because whoever is getting served at makes a couple of hitting errors.
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You make two hitting errors, you lose.
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Somebody grabs one ball with their inside hand, you lose.
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One ball hits the line.
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Funny, you lose.
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Like, that's all it is.
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That's all it is.
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It always comes down to 1315, 1416.
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And that one path, one overset.
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That's the stuff that you can control.
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If somebody makes a crazy reach block.
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I'm going to give him a round of applause and I'm going to say, all right, now we'll start worrying about you or changing up so that you don't do it again, force you to stay home a little bit.
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Do you think that there are any serves or things that just make your day easy when you are playing against open or lower level teams? Like, is there something that most open teams can't do this? So this will make my day easy up until at least like semi finals, quarter finals.
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I think a lot of the times when we're getting float serves right, especially when there's no wind too.
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So when there's wind, everyone wants to hit that jump serve and I think the jump serves are at that level.
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Like if you're not hitting them 50 miles an hour or whatever, like a 75 miles fast ball, you're just like it is the easiest ball and you have somebody over there that trying to rip a jump serve and they'd be way better off flow serving the ball.
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You get that jump serve and it's middle of the court.
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It has top spin, it's straight in the mid line.
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You basically stick your arms out and it goes to target.
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I think a lot of the open guys, especially the smaller like obviously not six eight, but anybody under six three.
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So typically defenders at the open level, they try to go back there and use the wind and crack that jumpsuit.
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But I think that's the worst thing they can do unless you're putting heat on the ball, unless you are really putting heat or some movement or kind of like a hybrid awkward spin and float ball or like kind of like shift top spin that falls on the front or like over you so that you have to take the step back and pass over your shoulder.
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That medium fastball right in your sweet spot.
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No, sorry guys, you don't have a major you have to crank on it.
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Like if you don't crank on it, you have to put a float serve in the back 3ft of the court and try to get the shoulders lifted.
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I think that's the number one mistake from a lot of those guys.
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We saw it a lot in Panama because the wind was a little bit crazy.
00:16:29,876 --> 00:16:32,670
I was watching some games and there's just jumpstarts.
00:16:33,230 --> 00:16:34,902
You have to put more body into it.
00:16:34,916 --> 00:16:39,306
You have to shoulder it more or like there's just not enough speed to create any out of system contact.
00:16:39,488 --> 00:16:41,106
I like that you said put more body.
00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:46,654
Most people think like hit harder and you just gave yourself instead of you said you have to hit it harder.
00:16:46,702 --> 00:16:53,458
You gave yourself your own physical coaching queue where you're like throw your chest, throw your body into it and that will generate the speed.
00:16:53,494 --> 00:16:56,322
And that's something that people can probably clean a little insight from.
00:16:56,336 --> 00:16:59,070
If you're going to try to hit a jumpsuit harder, especially in the wind.
00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:07,434
When there's some top spin or there's some wind in your face, you want to throw that top spin, throw your chest at the ball and let your arm follow and that will start generating power.
00:17:07,472 --> 00:17:12,102
But I think a lot of people just try to use only arm and your arm can only do so much.
00:17:12,176 --> 00:17:13,774
No, it's just that creates a spin.
00:17:13,822 --> 00:17:20,902
I think if you want that heavy jump serve, you have to be hitting with your whole your core needs to be involved and like the momentum, just your body weight hitting the ball.
00:17:20,926 --> 00:17:22,902
I think that's where speed comes from.
00:17:23,096 --> 00:17:28,602
I'm not a huge dude, but I hit a pretty hard jump serve when I'm getting into it versus just snapping at times.
00:17:28,736 --> 00:17:31,220
Just my shoulder is not going to get it done right.
00:17:31,910 --> 00:17:36,418
I don't know if anybody has discussed this with you or tell you, but you have a pretty strange arm swing.
00:17:36,454 --> 00:17:42,306
I would say very super high elbow and it comes through like over the top.
00:17:42,368 --> 00:17:48,426
Whereas most people, when they're teaching a pullback for a jump serve, it's even humorous across.
00:17:48,488 --> 00:17:55,102
Like if you line up your clavicle, your shoulder bones, you pull your arm back in that same method and then you snap so that you do get a high elbow.
00:17:55,126 --> 00:17:59,586
But I think you use a ton of ABS and a ton of lats and you're one of the hardest hitters I've seen.
00:17:59,708 --> 00:18:06,402
So how do you teach your arm swing and do you think that this developed for any certain way or you just don't notice it?
00:18:06,416 --> 00:18:13,220
I for sure notice it. And I've heard that and I've been asked that question a ton until my whole shoulder issue thing came along.
00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:16,242
I thought that's just kind of how it was.
00:18:16,316 --> 00:18:22,830
I think anatomically I think that shoulder position was patterned because of the way that my rib was set up.
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:28,446
So because it was pulling in a certain direction, I don't think I had the range of motion that most people have.
00:18:28,508 --> 00:18:36,450
So I created a different movement as far as opening with my torso a little bit more to allow that elbow to get higher versus a lot of people can just hold that shoulder back.
00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:37,878
And I wasn't able to do that.
00:18:37,904 --> 00:18:42,282
I think I think it was pattern based off of what was an issue.
00:18:42,356 --> 00:18:47,322
And now it's sort of helping me out a bit because I didn't specifically train.
00:18:47,516 --> 00:18:57,186
I played volleyball when I was younger, but at a lower level and then a little bit of club and there wasn't a ton of private lessons where I was drilling through a certain swing that was just kind of what it was.
00:18:57,248 --> 00:19:04,758
So I always just had this shoulder Canning from throwing through baseballs and just being a generalized athlete as a young kid.
00:19:04,844 --> 00:19:09,006
That's just the pattern that kind of came out of my upbringing, I guess.
00:19:09,128 --> 00:19:11,578
And I think a lot of coaches will see an athlete.
00:19:11,614 --> 00:19:15,414
They'll see somebody like you'll be able to jump, rip the ball and they're like that's good enough.
00:19:15,452 --> 00:19:16,398
It's at a high level.
00:19:16,484 --> 00:19:23,310
What's my next problem? So they won't go and correct outperforming people.
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:30,294
So why would we correct that when it's kind of working? And I have bigger issues? Because I need somebody now who can actually set this kid.
00:19:30,332 --> 00:19:42,558
So now they go and they worked with their setter more than they ever worked on your arm swing when you have a major League power capacity and it sucks that some coaches don't have the time or resources to be able to develop that.
00:19:42,584 --> 00:19:46,498
I think especially in boys volleyball where you don't have one coach.
00:19:46,654 --> 00:19:48,800
I played eight teams for five years.
00:19:49,550 --> 00:19:51,954
I played eight teams for five because it's Kansas City.
00:19:51,992 --> 00:19:54,706
So I grew up in Kansas City and I played 18.
00:19:54,778 --> 00:20:02,610
I think when I was 13, like my first year of high school, I played a little bit and eighteens and then there was eighteens again and then 18s again and then again.
00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:04,090
We don't have age division.
00:20:04,150 --> 00:20:08,214
So it was just go in there and get woke up by all the older kids and then slowly catch up.
00:20:08,252 --> 00:20:11,322
And that was my club experience growing up.
00:20:11,516 --> 00:20:22,378
Was there only one team in all of Kansas? Were you on the one team in the whole state?
00:20:22,534 --> 00:20:28,302
There was another team in Wichita which is like 2 hours south. So I think one or two other boys teams in the state that I knew of and definitely no other teams in the city.
00:20:28,376 --> 00:20:30,058
And that was for Mavs.
00:20:30,094 --> 00:20:35,062
Some Maps had a single boys team, like one boys team, but now they've grown.
00:20:35,086 --> 00:20:39,054
They have like 20 and it's really cool actually to see that they're killing it.
00:20:39,092 --> 00:20:43,386
Teams in open and like high level volleyball players there now, which is super cool to see.
00:20:43,448 --> 00:20:45,382
It's so nice seeing a little bit of growth.
00:20:45,466 --> 00:20:50,202
It's still not happening at the College level except for like D three where is really bumping up.
00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:53,422
And honestly there's D three teams that are taking out D one teams.
00:20:53,506 --> 00:21:10,306
So it doesn't look like the whole financial thing is really mattering just because maybe because there's a smaller pool of athletes in the juniors and so it's much more diversified and you don't have parents doing everything they can and taking out third and fourth mortgages to pay for clubs.
00:21:10,498 --> 00:21:12,018
No, it's not quite getting there yet.
00:21:12,044 --> 00:21:14,886
They haven't got to that level yet in men's at all.
00:21:14,948 --> 00:21:27,346
But definitely you see some of the people coming out of the pipeline, these younger kids, especially in sand too now like SoCal and some of those areas, these kids are very good at a very young age, which is really cool to see in the boys.
00:21:27,418 --> 00:21:27,690
00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:35,206
I'm still waiting for the height and athleticism to come with the skill from the juniors and USA beach pipeline.
00:21:35,338 --> 00:21:40,398
We're still not grabbing the potentially 68 kids who can pass.
00:21:58,830 --> 00:21:59,194
00:21:59,232 --> 00:22:06,010
I love begging sponsors to send me some protein powders that I could post to them on Instagram.
00:22:07,410 --> 00:22:08,818
Not the way to do it.
00:22:08,964 --> 00:22:13,802
That's why the grind is, though, that's a whole other topic conversation.
00:22:13,886 --> 00:22:14,998
Why we do it.
00:22:15,144 --> 00:22:16,138
Yeah, for sure.
00:22:16,224 --> 00:22:23,746
And then this season with more tournaments from the AVP, but the same size money that's always been available.
00:22:23,868 --> 00:22:29,998
And it's just like, yeah, it would just kind of double the expenses or you just got the same expenses that you've had every year.
00:22:30,024 --> 00:22:32,470
It's just now there's an AVP label on it.
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,110
But that money always existed for us.
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,642
It's just now there's an AVP on top of it.
00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:41,954
So I'm still waiting with a point.
00:22:41,992 --> 00:22:44,690
You have incentive to go to Muskegon.
00:22:45,370 --> 00:22:47,978
Not to be rude, but I never would have gone up, like, I don't know.
00:22:48,004 --> 00:22:53,066
I think we're going to go this year to that one as a qualifier for Atlanta maybe, or something.
00:22:53,248 --> 00:22:56,730
I was like, I would never, ever, even if it was like a good purse.
00:22:56,790 --> 00:22:57,854
Avp next there.
00:22:57,892 --> 00:22:59,526
I would never go to mosquito.
00:22:59,658 --> 00:23:00,818
I don't have any interest.
00:23:00,904 --> 00:23:09,198
You have for cheese curds?
00:23:09,234 --> 00:23:11,546
No, we went to Wapaka in 2020, and it's a bucket list tournament. But that part of the country is just far away.
00:23:11,608 --> 00:23:13,862
And it's just like it's hard to get to.
00:23:13,996 --> 00:23:21,506
It is a logistical nightmare because you get there and then you probably have to drive a little bit to get wherever you're going.
00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:25,886
So it's like airplane, car rental, hotel, everything in between.
00:23:26,008 --> 00:23:26,222
00:23:26,236 --> 00:23:29,078
The lay down is immediately like $1100.
00:23:29,164 --> 00:23:30,330
00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:35,418
And if you don't take it at minimum, third year law, it's a huge loss.
00:23:35,574 --> 00:23:36,990
Otherwise, you're breaking equal.
00:23:37,050 --> 00:23:42,794
And then we could talk, like, economically about opportunity cost of what's done somewhere else.
00:23:42,832 --> 00:23:46,950
But I guess we can all agree that we're not putting AVP to be financially secure.
00:23:47,010 --> 00:23:47,894
No, definitely not.
00:23:47,932 --> 00:23:50,440
But I'm also not paying to play it.
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:56,478
My intention when I started a couple of years ago was not to be funding a hobby.
00:23:56,574 --> 00:24:00,326
It wasn't like, this is something I'm going to drop ten grand a year on this.
00:24:00,388 --> 00:24:01,874
And if we win, it's great.
00:24:01,912 --> 00:24:04,650
If we lose, like, no, I want to be successful.
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:08,870
I want to be in the black as far as spending goes.
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,882
I want to make sure that it's not becoming something that is detracting.
00:24:13,026 --> 00:24:17,270
And that's why I feel like this successful players should hold another, just a separate bank account.
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:24,234
I would love to see one person take all of their volleyball expenses and then like, well, what do you include in that? Like, you got to include coach fees, travel fees.
00:24:24,402 --> 00:24:43,070
Does your protein powder then go under volleyball expense? Probably could but it would be interesting to see everybody's just like actual bank accounts starting, give it $1,000 at the beginning of the year and see what happens instead of where you just see that the winnings or whatever, right? Yeah.
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,850
I think for tax purposes, I keep track of that stuff.
00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:49,578
So by the end of the year, I should have a somewhat accurate.
00:24:49,614 --> 00:24:52,350
That'd be fun in November.
00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:54,158
Yes, we'll see where we're at.
00:24:54,184 --> 00:24:55,180
I'll let you all know.
00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:19,482
okay, so do you think that there was a big turning point where you decided that you could go ABP or was like when the AVP kind of showed up and you and Tucker were ready to rock, you just signed up, or was it a decision to say, I'm going?
00:25:19,676 --> 00:25:21,622
Probably. It was a 100% decision.
00:25:21,706 --> 00:25:29,446
So I was going to school in Iowa at Graceland University, and I met a friend of mine who runs San Antonio Juniors.
00:25:29,458 --> 00:25:30,058
Now it's a club.
00:25:30,094 --> 00:25:31,254
It's a volleyball club down here.
00:25:31,292 --> 00:25:34,914
And basically I graduated from College, and he was like, come on down.
00:25:34,952 --> 00:25:39,020
Like, you can run some private lessons, like live on the couch and see if you like it down here.
00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:41,790
So I moved down to San Antonio.
00:25:42,170 --> 00:25:47,422
Not permanently, but I came down here and spent a few weeks and kind of peaked the scene.
00:25:47,566 --> 00:25:50,850
I've watched AVP since I was like seven, right.
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:53,298
And that's always what I wanted to do.
00:25:53,384 --> 00:26:02,866
I've always seen that when you see the old ones with the Crocs in the background and Xbox One banners, all the ramps were in Crocs.
00:26:02,998 --> 00:26:05,638
I used to watch those games religiously.
00:26:05,734 --> 00:26:09,558
And so that was always something that I really wanted to do.
00:26:09,584 --> 00:26:11,610
I wanted to be a part of that.
00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:13,938
So I've signed out logistically what it took.
00:26:13,964 --> 00:26:21,030
And it was like, this is when local points, like if you had 300 points, that was a lot, right? So it was like for local level.
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:30,826
So I was like, okay, well, how do you get these points? Looking at the tournaments, I was like, okay, it's either you go do the SoCal tournaments or you live in Florida, or I was like, Texas TBT.
00:26:30,898 --> 00:26:41,962
So the TBT series in Texas, they did local points for Opens, and then they used to have, like, a series where if you won the series, you got a bid to Manhattan.
00:26:42,046 --> 00:26:47,914
So if you had the best finishes out of the five series, you got like a wildcard bid into Manhattan.
00:26:47,962 --> 00:26:52,818
And that's when they were doing I don't remember the draws, but it was like big draws, 32 draws or something.
00:26:52,904 --> 00:26:54,522
And I was like, okay, so that's how you do it.
00:26:54,536 --> 00:26:55,734
That's how you get in.
00:26:55,892 --> 00:26:58,930
What does that look like? So I moved to San Antonio to be closer.
00:26:58,990 --> 00:26:59,914
It's warm year round.
00:26:59,962 --> 00:27:01,006
It's kind of centralized.
00:27:01,078 --> 00:27:05,134
I was like, I can do AVP next stuff from San Antonio.
00:27:05,182 --> 00:27:06,018
I was like, I can do that.
00:27:06,044 --> 00:27:06,954
I can make that happen.
00:27:07,052 --> 00:27:12,822
So I moved down, started coaching a little bit, and I started coaching and I got an offer at a small D one College here.
00:27:12,836 --> 00:27:15,978
So I started coaching indoor volleyball at the division one level.
00:27:16,064 --> 00:27:19,678
And my beach plans kind of took a backseat.
00:27:19,714 --> 00:27:21,270
And I did that for two years.
00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:26,540
And by the like I would say halfway through my second year coaching, it was an incarnate word.
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:27,498
It hit me.
00:27:27,524 --> 00:27:32,098
I was like, I need to go do this now because coaching College volleyball is like a trap.
00:27:32,134 --> 00:27:33,438
Like, you get in, you love it.
00:27:33,464 --> 00:27:37,950
You start recruiting people, you want them to stay and you want to build the program.
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,270
And that's years.
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,470
It's not like you don't go in for a year and just like, okay, that's it.
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,710
Rebuilding programs you can really make in a single year.
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:46,974
00:27:47,012 --> 00:27:49,990
So it's the long term game I was coaching.
00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:52,818
I got that job when I was 23 and I coached two years.
00:27:52,844 --> 00:27:58,174
So at 25, I was like, okay, I'm going to give myself a real chance at doing something like kind of a dream of mine.
00:27:58,222 --> 00:27:58,614
00:27:58,712 --> 00:28:02,062
This is something I've always wanted to do, and it's obtainable.
00:28:02,146 --> 00:28:03,318
I didn't know if I was any good yet.
00:28:03,344 --> 00:28:04,462
I hadn't really trained.
00:28:04,546 --> 00:28:05,242
I played indoor.
00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:06,430
I was pretty good at indoor.
00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:09,510
And sand was something that I hadn't even really got into yet.
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:16,820
So spring season hit on year two and I quit Ocean and then they actually clean the staff out like a week later anyway, so it was a good call.
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:17,934
00:28:17,972 --> 00:28:19,162
So that's a good call while waiting.
00:28:19,186 --> 00:28:22,290
But you've gotten like severance pay if you didn't quit your week editor.
00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:27,402
I think about how it happened, and I think that was probably part of it.
00:28:27,416 --> 00:28:31,242
But I was also 24 and some change and that wasn't something I was.
00:28:31,316 --> 00:28:31,554
00:28:31,592 --> 00:28:41,420
And as an assistant College coach for a non giant program, you're making what, exactly 4000 for the semester? Yeah, I don't know.
00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:46,400
I think for the year it was 35,000 or something like that.
00:28:47,210 --> 00:28:50,322
Yeah, it was a a real job.
00:28:50,516 --> 00:28:52,530
So they would have had to probably pay me something.
00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:55,234
But anyway, that was already decided.
00:28:55,282 --> 00:28:57,658
I was like, I'm not coming back for post spring.
00:28:57,694 --> 00:29:03,946
So that was like, okay, now how do I sustain doing this? So I started coaching for two, 10 beach.
00:29:04,078 --> 00:29:08,674
And Jason, the guy who runs it, is super understanding about sort of following that dream.
00:29:08,722 --> 00:29:14,914
Obviously, he wants us to be high level coaches and there's nothing more high level than going and trying to play AVP.
00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:15,318
00:29:15,404 --> 00:29:17,598
So that was like the logistical plan.
00:29:17,744 --> 00:29:25,866
And then Lila moved to Houston randomly and I was like, dude, do you want to play these tournaments? And the first tournament we played, we went Owens in a local Open.
00:29:25,928 --> 00:29:27,380
We got smoked by it.
00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:33,380
I literally couldn't hit a ball in like I'm telling you, like 6ft out, but really hard.
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:38,502
My first tournament always do 80 miles an hour swing into the bar area.
00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:40,326
So that was my experience.
00:29:40,448 --> 00:29:44,766
And then it was like, all right, well, what do I do now? I need to be able to set.
00:29:44,828 --> 00:29:45,870
I need to be able to get down.
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,010
And it was like every week was like a different challenge.
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:51,690
I suck at everything now I'm going to have to figure out how to do this at a very high level.
00:29:51,800 --> 00:30:03,934
What do you think at that time was the hardest thing for you to learn or add to your game after that? Owen two, and then the transition from Owen two, and you're open to getting your first AVP.
00:30:03,982 --> 00:30:13,290
What was the hardest skill or technique that came? What was the process like,
00:30:13,850 --> 00:30:16,102
I think I typically pick up things pretty quick, just athleticism wise. I would go out and literally set, like 200 balls.
00:30:16,126 --> 00:30:19,686
I would set a bench up sideways and hit a ball off the bench and set.
00:30:19,748 --> 00:30:22,498
So I would do that for an hour straight.
00:30:22,534 --> 00:30:26,230
So handsetting the ball in a two ft.
00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:26,962
00:30:27,106 --> 00:30:30,046
I was like, Whoever I play with, this was before I was playing with Leela.
00:30:30,058 --> 00:30:35,478
I was like, Whoever I'm playing with, I'm going to make sure that I can make them side out at a high level.
00:30:35,624 --> 00:30:38,542
I don't care if I'm playing with somebody that's five, seven and needs the ball.
00:30:38,566 --> 00:30:39,982
And there's perfect window to score.
00:30:40,006 --> 00:30:41,214
Like, they're hitting windows this big.
00:30:41,252 --> 00:30:43,566
I was like, I'm going to hand that this ball right there.
00:30:43,628 --> 00:30:44,602
That way I get served.
00:30:44,626 --> 00:30:45,346
That was like my goal.
00:30:45,358 --> 00:30:48,502
I was like, I want to get served because I had a heavy shoulder.
00:30:48,586 --> 00:30:54,954
I knew I could site out, but the only way that I'm going to get that first ball is if my partner, whoever it was, is siding out at a high level.
00:30:54,992 --> 00:31:04,606
So I made sure the first thing I did was make sure that I could hand set from anywhere on the court, over the shoulder, facing backset, just whatever location, perfect location.
00:31:04,678 --> 00:31:10,290
So I spent a ton of time over the shoulder, set over the shoulder, set out a system said it doesn't matter where it came from.
00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:17,734
To me, who is the coach of a lot of players, it's so important for everybody to hear that you were alone.
00:31:17,902 --> 00:31:33,018
You're hitting against a bench, the ball rebounds back to you, and you draw something or hang something on a net or draw like, a circle in the sand, and you make it land there and you hold yourself to your own tiny, little, like, standard to make sure that you can actually get it done.
00:31:33,104 --> 00:31:35,310
And you don't need a court for that.
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,302
You don't need a partner for that.
00:31:37,436 --> 00:31:41,646
For our online students, that's what they realized within the first week.
00:31:41,708 --> 00:31:55,938
It's like all these drills that you guys are giving us, we don't actually need a court like no, 80% of what you need to do is just doing it on your own, feeling your touches, developing the ball control, being able to set, and all of the drills that we give.
00:31:55,964 --> 00:32:05,070
Like, right now we're doing our setting course online, and all of our players are taking videos of themselves doing the footwork for setting on the street in front of their house.
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,254
Like, the video demos that I give them are from my garage.
00:32:08,362 --> 00:32:10,734
And I said, you can do this at home.
00:32:10,772 --> 00:32:12,862
You don't need four people in a coach.
00:32:12,946 --> 00:32:14,274
Is that an advantage? Yeah.
00:32:14,312 --> 00:32:20,314
But you also get, I don't know, five, six times the reps doing it alone with a bench.
00:32:20,422 --> 00:32:28,950
Are there any keys that made setting easier for you or any advice that you would give to somebody for setting other than reps as much as you can? Yeah.
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:39,510
So I think a lot of people, especially people who are sort of cautious about handsetting because they don't want to double or get embarrassed, like they don't want to go get called at a BB for doubling or whatever it is.
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,540
A lot of people focus on their hands.
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:44,914
And I would say a good set starts with your feet.
00:32:44,962 --> 00:32:53,950
Like, your feet are more important than your hands for sure, like being able to get in the correct position and have your balance in a certain way where your whole body is setting into emotion.
00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:59,914
Like, my set starts with my feet through my legs, through my core, and then your hands are the last thing that really influenced the ball.
00:32:59,962 --> 00:33:01,182
And that's where reps come.
00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:10,882
And you can sit against a wall and do this, do this, whatever your release is, you can do that a million times and not get tired and you can get a million hand reps.
00:33:10,966 --> 00:33:14,794
The footwork that you're talking about is what actually creates good angles.
00:33:14,842 --> 00:33:19,794
So if I'm setting from 10ft off, I need to take two steps, make sure my right foot is planted really hard.
00:33:19,832 --> 00:33:21,522
So I'm pushing off that right foot.
00:33:21,656 --> 00:33:23,314
My whole body is letting go of the ball.
00:33:23,362 --> 00:33:32,118
And I think a lot of people are too concerned about their hands and not concerned enough about their body positioning in relation to where I need the ball to go in what direction the ball is taking me.
00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:33,430
So I need to change the direction.
00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:34,942
It's not my hands changing the direction.
00:33:34,966 --> 00:33:43,410
It's my whole body changing the direction until they change the hand setting rules, of course, but hopefully they're going to continue to let us sort of drop the ball here.
00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:44,782
It's about your feet.
00:33:44,866 --> 00:33:48,526
Like indoor, you jump square up and it's just pop right in the sand.
00:33:48,598 --> 00:33:58,530
Your whole body is sort of that anchor and you can just really release it into wherever you need to go because from here you can just let it go and you have your entire body throwing it wherever you need.
00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:10,110
I think footwork is key in making sure that you understand angles as far as where am I sitting on the court? Where does it need to go? I need my whole body to face that direction so it goes where it's supposed to go.
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,562
And that was a big thing for me.
00:34:11,696 --> 00:34:21,582
Getting away from this and getting a flash and getting into that whole body release where you can see the momentum building and throwing the ball versus just running underneath it.
00:34:21,596 --> 00:34:23,586
And that was not it for me.
00:34:23,708 --> 00:34:25,506
I couldn't locate properly that way.
00:34:25,568 --> 00:34:30,822
And until I started really slowing down and anchoring, I couldn't do it.
00:34:30,956 --> 00:34:34,086
I like that word that you say for your set.
00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:39,778
Anchoring like making sure that your feet are grabbing the ground and they're in their solid.
00:34:39,814 --> 00:34:43,026
You're not just hopping or skipping through it.
00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:50,446
There's a few high level setters that I know just that come from indoor, but they still use that kind of skip or toe through the ball.
00:34:50,578 --> 00:34:52,710
They jog through it and it's like this is different.
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,158
We're not trying to move as quickly as we can.
00:34:55,184 --> 00:35:00,666
There's still rhythm in indoor, but you're really just chucking it through windows as fast as you can.
00:35:00,728 --> 00:35:01,402
There's still rhythm.
00:35:01,426 --> 00:35:06,834
So I don't want to take away anything from indoor setters the rhythm for beach, right.
00:35:06,872 --> 00:35:17,982
Like stopping, showing somebody that you're about to set, then having that consistent hand rhythm and then releasing at a very similar speed so that they can be in their own heading rhythm every time.
00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:18,762
00:35:18,836 --> 00:35:31,640
And people who are trying to get to the ball, I think they'll take off before they get there and then they'll float through the zone where they're supposed to set instead of running low, stopping under the ball, being strong with their legs, then setting exactly.
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:34,414
You're fighting your own body momentum.
00:35:34,462 --> 00:35:45,210
Like if you're going through the zone, like you're having to fight your forward momentum as well as the wind and you're running through that contact and trying to Chuck up a ball, it's a lot tougher, like when you're fading away.
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,558
A lot tougher when you're jump.
00:35:46,594 --> 00:35:46,918
00:35:46,954 --> 00:35:50,238
It's a lot tougher if you're stopped on the floor becomes very easy.
00:35:50,324 --> 00:35:52,218
So that's always my key.
00:35:52,304 --> 00:36:06,678
And when I'm teaching, especially our young ones now at 210, we have eleven and twelve year olds that are just sauce at the ball and the ball is this big for them, but it's like they handed everything because that was something we told them when they first came in.
00:36:06,764 --> 00:36:15,238
We probably had them at ten, I think, and little ten year olds just Chuck that thing, get your body under it, Chuck the ball as they're getting older.
00:36:15,274 --> 00:36:19,374
It's like it's just second nature for them to get there and push it.
00:36:19,412 --> 00:36:20,682
It's really cool, actually.
00:36:20,756 --> 00:36:21,620
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:26,310
I always get kind of fired up and I rip on people.
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:33,942
I'm a little bit unforgiving, I would say, when people are like, oh well, women don't set because their hands are too small.
00:36:34,076 --> 00:36:44,242
And I'm just like, you need to stop talking about pretty much everything right now, the fact that you can say that.
00:36:44,316 --> 00:36:48,840
And then I'll go and I'll bring it to, like, my niece or my nephew, and I go, look, eight years old.
00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:49,826
00:36:49,898 --> 00:36:51,900
Yeah, normal volleyball, too.
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:54,540
It's not a small ball either.
00:36:55,110 --> 00:36:57,382
It's this big for them, but they can still sell it.
00:36:57,456 --> 00:36:58,380
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:59,218
00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:02,678
I like the anchoring discussion for setting.
00:37:02,714 --> 00:37:09,670
And I find that a lot of people, when they're pursuing a ball that's going towards the net, they're still drifting to the net after they set.
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,218
So they have this little sideways translation.
00:37:12,374 --> 00:37:13,562
It's going to kill their accuracy.
00:37:13,586 --> 00:37:20,340
It's like you're always moving sideways or maybe 30% of the time you're moving sideways while setting instead of establish your feet hold.
00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:23,750
That's huge for accuracy.
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:38,798
Did anybody show you that? Was there somebody who had, like, a big influence on your setting or at least your career in general, or was it just you getting out and getting reps?
00:37:38,954 --> 00:37:50,086
So the first person I trained with, his name is Lucas Galmarini. He played on the AVP tour, and he's from Argentina, but he lives in Kansas City now and he's probably five nine, I would say, but ball control guy, I would go out there for two.
00:37:50,148 --> 00:37:53,234
When I was 1819, I helped him build the same court in his backyard.
00:37:53,282 --> 00:37:53,494
00:37:53,532 --> 00:37:57,946
So I was coaching for Casey Power and met him through that.
00:37:58,008 --> 00:38:00,038
And we built a sand court in his backyard.
00:38:00,074 --> 00:38:04,594
He's like, all right, I'll help teach you sand if you help me build this.
00:38:04,632 --> 00:38:04,762
00:38:04,776 --> 00:38:05,570
I was like 18.
00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:06,086
It was summer.
00:38:06,098 --> 00:38:07,560
I was like, hell, yeah, let's go.
00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:10,826
Basically manual labor.
00:38:10,898 --> 00:38:13,154
And that was like the first time I had private lessons.
00:38:13,202 --> 00:38:17,858
So he taught me a lot about the lower hand contact, making sure shake the ball.
00:38:17,894 --> 00:38:20,830
Like all those hand cues, those are from him.
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,480
So that's where I sort of learned the hand release of how to set.
00:38:24,990 --> 00:38:32,194
He was a more traditional square up, get around the ball and square to your target kind of guy that I did not.
00:38:32,232 --> 00:38:33,634
I completely went away from that.
00:38:33,672 --> 00:38:35,978
And I swear to the ball, not to my target.
00:38:36,014 --> 00:38:45,046
That was probably could you explain that? Like you square to the ball but not your target now, so you're more comfortable sitting over your shoulder now? Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:38:45,228 --> 00:38:48,478
I try not to go too long with this because I could talk a while about it.
00:38:48,504 --> 00:39:00,562
But basically, if you look at USA and I think P 1440 training, basically all the high level people will tell you, get your feet around the ball square to your target and release the ball straight on.
00:39:00,696 --> 00:39:02,438
And I was just talking to Pete about this yesterday.
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:12,322
I think I think when you're taking a contact, like the ball is coming over your shoulder, it's harder for you to track and manipulate if you're staring directly at the ball and it's coming into your hands.
00:39:12,396 --> 00:39:14,186
It's a lot easier for you to manipulate.
00:39:14,258 --> 00:39:16,430
So the set itself is a little bit harder.
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:20,206
But if you have good proprioception, you can understand your relation to things.
00:39:20,388 --> 00:39:24,070
It's not a hard thing to set a ball just over my shoulder this way.
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,934
The hard thing is having a consistent ball that's coming into my window sideways.
00:39:28,982 --> 00:39:37,130
So I'm watching the ball with one eyeball coming into my hand sideways, and now I'm having to take off momentum off of my opposite hands and then push the ball straight with no spin.
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:40,260
When you're facing the ball, it comes directly into your hand.
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:43,690
There's nothing easier than catching a ball thrown right to your face.
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:44,098
00:39:44,184 --> 00:39:50,230
It's like if you were sitting at your desk and someone threw a ball from the side and you had to catch it in your hands, that's harder to do.
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,890
00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:59,234
And that's the same thing I teach our juniors now is you don't have to square to your target, you square to the ball and you get sort of a wide base with your feet.
00:39:59,282 --> 00:40:03,266
You can push off that back foot and create the same exact angle.
00:40:03,338 --> 00:40:14,134
But it also eliminates a lot of doubles because the ball is coming straight into your hands and now you're releasing sideways evenly instead of having to go over the shoulder and straight, it creates that angle for you.
00:40:14,232 --> 00:40:16,402
So easier catch may be more difficult.
00:40:16,476 --> 00:40:17,018
00:40:17,114 --> 00:40:17,734
00:40:17,892 --> 00:40:21,962
And the release is the easier part of those two components.
00:40:22,106 --> 00:40:24,646
And also with the current handsetting rules, right.
00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:28,094
It's like the transfer, the carry, the lift.
00:40:28,262 --> 00:40:32,294
Those are all a lot harder to call when you're facing the ball and you release.
00:40:32,342 --> 00:40:36,110
Even if you were taking the ball over the shoulder, I think you're more liable to double.
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:37,582
The double is the easiest call.
00:40:37,656 --> 00:40:38,990
So people see that ball spin.
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:43,262
They call it almost immediately at any level except for very young juniors.
00:40:43,286 --> 00:40:44,470
But you could be at ABB.
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,266
And if the ball spins, they're going to be like, oh, that's a double, right.
00:40:47,328 --> 00:40:51,130
If you transfer it, you have to tell me why I transferred it.
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:53,554
If you're going to call one of those, you have to tell me why.
00:40:53,592 --> 00:41:01,250
So it's also sort of catering to the current handsetting rules of I'd rather lift, transfer or carry the ball versus double.
00:41:01,310 --> 00:41:07,270
And what do you mean by transfer? Like when it comes down here and you let it go? A lift? Yeah, lift.
00:41:07,650 --> 00:41:08,374
I've heard it.
00:41:08,412 --> 00:41:09,614
We call it in Texas.
00:41:09,662 --> 00:41:12,718
They like to transfer is what I've heard.
00:41:12,864 --> 00:41:18,398
But basically it's coming in on my right shoulder and I'm dropping and it's coming out of my left shoulder.
00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:21,720
It's like that motion, but it's a lot harder to call.
00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:23,362
Those are harder to see.
00:41:23,496 --> 00:41:26,242
Then you do this and the ball is coming out like that.
00:41:26,316 --> 00:41:27,242
You know, it's a double.
00:41:27,326 --> 00:41:37,354
Now, I like the logic of that because 100% like when you're playing defense, you would face where the ball is coming from, right? You're playing catch with me, you're going to face where the ball is coming from.
00:41:37,392 --> 00:41:44,818
And then you could take two metaphors easily there and you could say, hey, if we're playing catch, would you face me or would you face sideways? You'd face me.
00:41:44,844 --> 00:41:44,962
00:41:44,976 --> 00:41:46,130
Because it's easier to catch.
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:54,206
And then the metaphor that goes to the USA way of teaching and the way we teach a better beach where your square up is, well, let's take a look at basketball players.
00:41:54,278 --> 00:42:01,910
When they release, aren't they always facing the basketball as much as possible? So both sides of that are pretty valid arguments.
00:42:01,970 --> 00:42:04,246
And I've never heard that.
00:42:04,308 --> 00:42:05,460
But I like it.
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:06,838
It makes sense.
00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:08,734
It's different when the ball is approaching you.
00:42:08,772 --> 00:42:12,734
And that's why people have to change if they're doing the score up to target route.
00:42:12,782 --> 00:42:21,778
It's why they have to change their positioning to the ball because you have to approach from behind the ball and move forward so that you're actually like the ball gets into that window and then you go.
00:42:21,924 --> 00:42:33,574
And I think a lot of people that square up, I think in those sort of scramble or like a little bit lower ball or uncomfortable positions, they default to the bump set because they don't have the footwork to get around in square.
00:42:33,732 --> 00:42:39,190
They're not as confident in that footwork and their ability to get there quickly and let the ball go in the right way.
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:43,558
But if you're telling them to set off line, they're very comfortable running to a low ball and just chucking it.
00:42:43,584 --> 00:42:44,134
00:42:44,292 --> 00:42:52,978
If I can see a ball right in front of my face and get my hands to it versus having to run around the whole ball and now set it over here, it becomes a lot more of a confidence thing, I think.
00:42:53,004 --> 00:42:54,602
And that's a huge thing for handsetting.
00:42:54,626 --> 00:42:58,222
It's just being confident enough to get your hands and feet there and throw it.
00:42:58,356 --> 00:43:00,670
And if it's offline, you don't think as much.
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:08,218
If you're setting in that more strict square to your target, there's all that footwork that goes into it and it's like, oh, I'm not fast enough, I'm just going to bump it.
00:43:08,304 --> 00:43:13,810
I think a lot of people shy away from the handset when they have a more strict approach into it.
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,480
That's why we took the young one.
00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:16,978
I'm down with it.
00:43:17,064 --> 00:43:21,850
And either way, they are going to get to USA volleyball trial and they're going to get some look.
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:27,586
But if they can at least explain it, as long as you're explaining it to them and they're like, well, this is the way that we do it.
00:43:27,588 --> 00:43:31,440
And if they're setting sauce anyway, if it goes to target, there you go.
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:32,614
00:43:32,712 --> 00:43:45,610
You're asking, do you think they should call what do you think that they should call double in B AA? Because I think that it hurts volleyball when people don't try to hand.
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:50,530
It because they're afraid to lose a point for the first some people for their entire careers.
00:43:50,910 --> 00:43:55,142
Somebody will play starting at 20 years old and play until she's 60 and she's like, I never handset.
00:43:55,166 --> 00:43:56,882
It's been 40 years and I haven't handset.
00:43:56,906 --> 00:44:05,326
Why would you now? You can never you are useless as a handsetting coach so you can't share or grow the game.
00:44:05,388 --> 00:44:10,560
And to me, you volunteered for a lack of growth in the game.
00:44:11,730 --> 00:44:15,386
That's the argument is like the double BS in Texas.
00:44:15,458 --> 00:44:17,870
They call stricter hands than in Fivb.
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:20,138
That's like the joke fivb.
00:44:20,234 --> 00:44:22,440
They just and it's gone right.
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:24,514
And this is the same for indoor, too.
00:44:24,552 --> 00:44:27,314
There's a lot of discussion for indoor like collegiate.
00:44:27,362 --> 00:44:33,334
Do we just get rid of the double? Aren't they doing that for juniors next year? I saw in a volleyball part of a volleyball mom's Facebook group.
00:44:33,432 --> 00:44:36,802
But I know they said that they're not going to call doubles indoor next year.
00:44:36,936 --> 00:44:40,990
That is the path that I think USAV is going.
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,434
I think if the ball, it doesn't give you a clear advantage to double.
00:44:45,542 --> 00:44:48,850
So if IAA ball, it's not a good set.
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:50,374
It's not where I wanted it to go.
00:44:50,472 --> 00:44:51,926
It's probably not the right height.
00:44:51,998 --> 00:44:53,906
It's probably not the right location.
00:44:54,098 --> 00:44:55,982
It doesn't benefit me to double.
00:44:56,066 --> 00:45:00,900
But if my partner saves it and scores, that should be part of the game.
00:45:01,950 --> 00:45:05,750
Let's say you're jumping backwards and I think the lift is an unfair advantage.
00:45:05,810 --> 00:45:06,670
You're out of position.
00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:09,802
I've now lifted the ball and put it where it's supposed to be.
00:45:09,936 --> 00:45:11,222
That is an unfair advantage.
00:45:11,246 --> 00:45:14,986
But if my hands are high and I contact it, it's not creating advantages for me.
00:45:15,048 --> 00:45:17,834
Like if the ball is mishandled, it's mishandled.
00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:19,642
So it's a worse set than it should be.
00:45:19,656 --> 00:45:22,174
I'm already penalized if my header takes care of it.
00:45:22,332 --> 00:45:23,746
I think that should be part of the game.
00:45:23,808 --> 00:45:27,314
I think if it creates an unfair advantage, they should call some kind of ball handling.
00:45:27,362 --> 00:45:32,940
So like obviously lifting the ball or throwing it from back behind your shoulder or whatever it is.
00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:34,078
I don't think it does.
00:45:34,104 --> 00:45:35,374
I'm a classical real guy.
00:45:35,412 --> 00:45:38,638
So we'll just come back with the argument like, yeah, well, that's not a set.
00:45:38,784 --> 00:45:39,974
So that is an advantage.
00:45:40,022 --> 00:45:44,138
Like setting ugly is already an advantage because it allows you to be less athletic.
00:45:44,174 --> 00:45:47,450
And it's like to me, no, it doesn't allow you to be less athletic.
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:50,354
It just changes the nature of the skill.
00:45:50,462 --> 00:45:51,430
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,194
And so you get that way.
00:45:53,232 --> 00:45:59,170
But there are these hardcore people out there who love the way handsetting has been.
00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:05,386
They believe in the path of attrition almost that you have to go through just to be able to have a quality set.
00:46:05,448 --> 00:46:07,270
And also it confuses fans.
00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:12,370
My wife is still cheering for a point while everybody else is going.
00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:16,126
And she's like, what happened for seven years.
00:46:16,188 --> 00:46:16,800
00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:23,170
So it hurts the game that we don't have a clear cut way to determine it.
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,658
And I think that skill needs to be opened for lower levels so that people are willing to try it.
00:46:27,684 --> 00:46:32,050
And I just don't think that at the B level, I think there should be zero doubles calls no matter what.
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:36,060
And then it's like, okay, now you'll learn how to control it way better.
00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:38,002
00:46:38,016 --> 00:46:39,466
And once you keep doing it.
00:46:39,648 --> 00:46:43,994
But again, let's say you play in your first B tournament and it's your first tournament ever playing.
00:46:44,042 --> 00:46:48,238
You go up with two hands and the ball has backspin and it flies 12ft off the net.
00:46:48,324 --> 00:46:49,490
You've already been penalized.
00:46:49,550 --> 00:46:51,074
Your partner is running backwards.
00:46:51,182 --> 00:46:52,800
If they FREEBALL, it over.
00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:54,310
Good job by you.
00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:04,330
But why is that an automatic point? Why is a new skill that somebody probably hasn't done? Why does that count? The other guy on the other side? We're not playing that ball because it's not clean.
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,322
I think it's just like, you don't see that.
00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:13,802
00:47:13,886 --> 00:47:14,446
I don't know.
00:47:14,508 --> 00:47:18,178
Like, imagine you hit a bad serve in tennis and it still goes in.
00:47:18,264 --> 00:47:20,222
But the guy's like, no, that was ugly.
00:47:20,306 --> 00:47:24,734
We're going to take it, right? You can hit like the frame of the racket and it's still perfectly legal.
00:47:24,782 --> 00:47:26,738
They're just like, but you hit the frame of the racket.
00:47:26,774 --> 00:47:28,178
So it's not going to be a good shot.
00:47:28,274 --> 00:47:29,926
Every now and then it will work out in your favor.
00:47:29,988 --> 00:47:32,760
But you're not going to intentionally do it because it's exactly.
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:35,422
I think they should just get rid of it.
00:47:35,556 --> 00:47:42,358
And even at pro level, again, if it creates an unfair advantage, something right, lift, double, whatever you want to call it.
00:47:42,384 --> 00:47:46,934
But I don't think that it doesn't positively benefit you when you mishandle the ball.
00:47:46,982 --> 00:47:50,734
So for the people out there listening right now.
00:47:50,772 --> 00:47:57,542
If you're in the comments section or if you want to throw to the comments on the recorded podcast, just go ahead and give us your opinion.
00:47:57,626 --> 00:48:14,974
I like to hear if you think that setting is strict enough, if it should be stricter, if you think that the ABP and the fiber, you're getting too loose, or do you think that we should just do away with doubles? As far as a penalty call, be interested to know where the percentages are on it.
00:48:15,132 --> 00:48:18,658
Again, I know a number of people that are just like, absolutely not.
00:48:18,744 --> 00:48:20,062
Keep it as strict as possible.
00:48:20,136 --> 00:48:21,806
It's a skill that you have to earn.
00:48:21,938 --> 00:48:26,438
But I can see that it can hurt the sport and it miscues fans.
00:48:26,594 --> 00:48:29,650
Where you get this confusion once the play happens.
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:45,950
But then some people then argue like, all right, well, half of the population doesn't understand, like football, and it still becomes a great sport, right? You're like, what is this, 510, 15 yards? For what? Who did what? We'll see and we'll see what people say age old debate.
00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:47,006
00:48:47,068 --> 00:48:48,618
Just a couple more questions for you, Steve.
00:48:48,654 --> 00:49:06,330
I'm wondering if there's anything right now that you and Peter or just you are currently putting into your game or something that you're working on or focusing on at practice and how you're doing
00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:16,214
for me, Pete is working on specifically just blocking. He's a very good shot blocker, probably his basketball background, but his timing and if there's a ball high over the net, I don't even have to move typically because he's going to SWAT it.
00:49:16,252 --> 00:49:20,562
He's working on sort of that hand positioning and shaping those hard driven lower seam balls.
00:49:20,586 --> 00:49:25,430
So that's something that he's actively every time we go out and practice is something he's shooting for.
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:38,718
Is it like hard driven, both hands going or just the individual hand placement that he wants to be covering wide or more narrow or just more versatile?
00:49:38,754 --> 00:49:46,022
I would say versatile as far as seeing that late angle. It's like let's say you're blocking a ball and he's swinging inside your left hand, dropping the left hand, but also bringing the right as well.
00:49:46,216 --> 00:49:47,402
You've made the read.
00:49:47,476 --> 00:49:57,710
Now it's more about, okay, I know this ball is going here, like the last second adjustment where you're putting both hands into that clamp and being able to press both without having that sort of flat tooling surface.
00:49:58,690 --> 00:50:00,462
He's 67 and he jumps.
00:50:00,486 --> 00:50:02,990
Well, it's a thing where he can literally press.
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,326
Yeah, he's pretty big, but he can press.
00:50:06,388 --> 00:50:09,870
It's just the hand manipulation and the timing to put it in the right zone.
00:50:09,930 --> 00:50:20,222
Like this is something that I'm a small blocker, but that's the only part I do well, is taking away that if you hit in that small semicircle across the top of the net, I'm going to probably at least touch it or block it.
00:50:20,356 --> 00:50:23,870
Yeah, I think that comes from our defense.
00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:26,090
You can see what somebody's doing.
00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:32,658
So now I have to be over here sticking my hands in the way for people who jump.
00:50:32,694 --> 00:50:38,534
They get stuck in the air and they have all this range and they end up here.
00:50:38,572 --> 00:50:43,742
So for him, we're really working on taking away those lower angles because he does really well at the upper end.
00:50:43,756 --> 00:51:15,998
Do you think if a guy is six one that they should be reading and changing their hand position as a blocker for smaller blockers out there who are like high, do you think they should be more positional or would you tell them as well, hey, if you see it, go get it, because if you see it and you go get it and you're Andy Mole and you're 610 with a 48th for whatever, right? Yeah, of course, because you get both shoulders already over the net and you're still penetrating when you're reaching outside,
00:51:16,024 --> 00:51:16,934
I think and this is my personal stance and I did qualify once as a blocker, so it puts me I think I can talk about that. You know what you're talking about.
00:51:16,972 --> 00:51:27,342
Yeah, I think smaller blockers, you almost need to ditch the one, twos, threes and fours calls and focus on taking away like hard driven.
00:51:27,426 --> 00:51:31,922
If I'm a smaller blocker and I'm going and blocking a line, it's like you jump on the line.
00:51:31,996 --> 00:51:35,946
Not only are you probably giving up high line, but you're probably giving up the angle.
00:51:36,138 --> 00:51:37,806
You're giving up multiple shots.
00:51:37,878 --> 00:51:41,318
So as an undersized blocker, it's our middle finger call.
00:51:41,344 --> 00:51:47,502
But it's basically a ball block, right? I'm going to read the ball and I'm going to take away the hard driven.
00:51:47,586 --> 00:51:48,950
Whatever I see is going to be hard.
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,566
So if I see somebody committing their body weight to the line, I'm going to go dive and grab line.
00:51:54,688 --> 00:51:56,318
I don't want them to hit on me.
00:51:56,344 --> 00:51:59,790
The only ball I can effectively take away is the hard driven low tape ball.
00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:00,110
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,534
Where does your defenders stand when you're doing that? Because the argument would be like, well, then they're going to get burned down the line.
00:52:05,572 --> 00:52:13,950
When you said that you should have blocked line, and what am I supposed to do as a defender? So how do you defender play that as a defender, you can see the play developing.
00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:21,114
So when you see your blocker taking a step out and committing to something, me, naturally I shift away from that sort of balance the court.
00:52:21,222 --> 00:52:22,638
So I'm swinging out wide.
00:52:22,674 --> 00:52:28,382
If I see the ball going tight to the line, close to the antenna, my blocker's hands are diving into that line.
00:52:28,516 --> 00:52:32,054
I'm naturally going to move away into the left side, into the seam in the middle.
00:52:32,092 --> 00:52:32,834
That's tough to do.
00:52:32,872 --> 00:52:41,222
It is to move away from your natural instinct because like as a defender, we probably both want to go towards where we know that they're trying to hit.
00:52:41,296 --> 00:52:44,910
You have to release to the opposite for the just in case ball.
00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:45,338
00:52:45,424 --> 00:52:51,102
Because if you doubled up on hard, swinging hard angle, you're going to get burned somewhere.
00:52:51,186 --> 00:52:54,090
But the thought process behind it is I'm going to block.
00:52:54,210 --> 00:52:57,158
If they hit this ball hard, I'm going to block it.
00:52:57,184 --> 00:53:00,626
So what we're trying to cause with that is let's say they wrist away.
00:53:00,688 --> 00:53:01,610
That's the ball you dig.
00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:13,538
So if I have a small block and they're just blasting in the angle, even if it's directly at me, how many balls do you dig that are hit full speed directly at you? It feels good when you do, but it does.
00:53:13,564 --> 00:53:15,254
It sure does.
00:53:15,352 --> 00:53:17,714
But you don't take many of those.
00:53:17,812 --> 00:53:24,918
So the thought process is let the block take away that swing and get into a position where you can then dig the digger ball.
00:53:24,954 --> 00:53:29,562
So let's say they had an off speed or like a chop at the last second, something slower.
00:53:29,706 --> 00:53:31,202
That's the ball you want to be on.
00:53:31,276 --> 00:53:36,854
And I see it a ton at the local level for blockers is over blocking line.
00:53:37,012 --> 00:53:41,634
So the blocker ends up on the line, and then they have 4ft into the angle.
00:53:41,682 --> 00:53:44,570
It's like anybody can side out with that much space.
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,962
Like just teeing off into the angle.
00:53:47,046 --> 00:53:51,626
You don't even have to hit the ball hard just away from the defender, or they just hit the ball extremely hard.
00:53:51,688 --> 00:53:52,290
00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:53,750
You're not digging that ball.
00:53:55,390 --> 00:53:57,306
You want to be a more conservative blocker.
00:53:57,318 --> 00:53:59,094
You want to go more into the seams.
00:53:59,142 --> 00:54:00,410
Don't give up so much space.
00:54:00,460 --> 00:54:03,182
Just get right in the midline and take away what you see.
00:54:03,376 --> 00:54:03,770
00:54:03,820 --> 00:54:10,014
That's the first thing that we go to with blockers is like learning how to take a charge wherever that hitters traveling.
00:54:10,182 --> 00:54:17,750
Get your chest right in the middle and make sure that if they were to keep going forward and the route that they're going, that they're going to jump straight into you and knock you over.
00:54:17,860 --> 00:54:23,282
That's got to be your first ability to do that instead of thinking about what's behind you.
00:54:23,356 --> 00:54:26,894
I think a lot of people think about the space behind them instead of what's really good.
00:54:26,992 --> 00:54:28,058
Yeah, that's a really good point.
00:54:28,084 --> 00:54:34,170
They're thinking about what am I taking away as far as court space goes, but the hitter tells I call angle of approach.
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:38,658
So if you're looking at their angle of approach, they're going to tell you where they are going to hit the ball the hardest.
00:54:38,754 --> 00:54:41,966
And some people have some crazy cross body lines or thumb downs or whatever.
00:54:42,028 --> 00:54:45,354
But for the most part, people hit their hardest ball in line with their approach.
00:54:45,402 --> 00:54:51,494
So if they're wide and the Ball's inside and they're coming in at an aggressive angle, you get in front of that aggressive angle, you're taking away their hardest way.
00:54:51,532 --> 00:54:56,090
So as far as read blocking goes, that is super key.
00:54:56,140 --> 00:54:57,338
I like taking a charge, though.
00:54:57,364 --> 00:54:58,814
That's a good way to think of it.
00:54:58,852 --> 00:55:00,674
Like just getting in front of them and going out.
00:55:00,712 --> 00:55:01,166
00:55:01,288 --> 00:55:09,410
At least if somebody's injured, they can't jump or you want to cut their jumps during practice, that's at the very least that you can get that footwork going late.
00:55:10,690 --> 00:55:11,054
00:55:11,092 --> 00:55:16,074
And you see that at the high level, too, where people are doing a read block.
00:55:16,122 --> 00:55:20,978
And I think the Norwegians I'm not going to say the first, but maybe the best to really expose it.
00:55:21,004 --> 00:55:29,586
And if you really watch a lot of films, you'll see that sometimes defenders don't move to the line or the angle.
00:55:29,778 --> 00:55:34,430
They just sit middle, and their choice is to dig all of the shots.
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:40,902
And they're like, the only thing that they might dig is if they get blasted with a high ball to the middle of the court.
00:55:40,926 --> 00:55:46,430
I think people always the addiction to needing to be either in the line or the cross.
00:55:47,110 --> 00:55:51,258
More players who would serve them if they floated in the middle chilled.
00:55:51,294 --> 00:55:53,694
And they just said, I have no responsibility for hard swings.
00:55:53,742 --> 00:55:56,010
I'm just going to get stuff that goes high and over a block.
00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:57,134
That's the ball we run.
00:55:57,172 --> 00:55:58,070
That a ton.
00:55:58,180 --> 00:55:59,162
We run it a ton.
00:55:59,236 --> 00:56:01,146
Like it's big athletic blocker.
00:56:01,218 --> 00:56:05,114
And again, am I going to dig the hard driven ball in the right spot? Maybe.
00:56:05,212 --> 00:56:09,894
But if there's a ball that goes up and down, I know I have a chance to transition.
00:56:09,942 --> 00:56:11,246
That's my thought process.
00:56:11,428 --> 00:56:14,150
If I can get to that shot, that's great.
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,506
And at the pro level, if I can get three of those a game, that's good.
00:56:18,568 --> 00:56:20,898
I'm not worried about digging three beams.
00:56:20,994 --> 00:56:22,334
It hits a bomb at me.
00:56:22,432 --> 00:56:26,078
I'm not digging three absolute crushed balls in the game.
00:56:26,164 --> 00:56:36,486
Like, if I'm lucky, that'd be awesome statistics when it makes them hit like 87, 90% because they're just slightly offered.
00:56:36,498 --> 00:56:37,502
They second guess themselves.
00:56:37,576 --> 00:56:39,842
And that's when that's now the opportunity.
00:56:40,036 --> 00:56:40,646
00:56:40,768 --> 00:56:41,162
00:56:41,236 --> 00:56:42,138
The diggable balls.
00:56:42,174 --> 00:56:43,278
We want the diggable balls.
00:56:43,314 --> 00:56:45,760
We don't want the perfect in system.
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:50,534
My blockers on the line and I'm looking at six eight coming at me this way.
00:56:50,572 --> 00:56:52,926
Like, I'm not worried about that ball.
00:56:52,998 --> 00:56:53,860
Here you go.
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:57,620
One hand up, one hand down.
00:56:59,690 --> 00:57:00,042
00:57:00,056 --> 00:57:17,406
Well, Steve, are there any tools or equipment that are for you absolute must have when you're at practice, at a match, on the road, at home or at gym?
00:57:17,468 --> 00:57:23,730
I would say as far as recovery goes, like, I have a new hyperbole that I think makes a huge difference. The Hypervolt plus, yes, it was a gift for my girlfriend for my birthday.
00:57:25,070 --> 00:57:31,230
So she got me this and I've noticed a huge difference as far as sort of that onset soreness that comes on.
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,334
Like if you use the gun regularly while you're playing or when I'm coaching, I'll be on the bench.
00:57:36,502 --> 00:57:37,870
They're a gun in my shoulder.
00:57:37,930 --> 00:57:43,518
And I think there's something to it as far as recovery aspect because I feel fantastic post getting that.
00:57:43,604 --> 00:57:55,398
As far as implements, the only thing I say for a lot of footwork stuff, really, when I first started using a weight vest, again, after probably acclimating to it, you don't want to just throw on £20 and blow your knees out.
00:57:55,424 --> 00:58:12,522
Obviously, if you put on a little ten pound vest for some of your footwork stuff, like dropping to a need to pass or working on a sideline ball or the blocking footwork and a little jump, like some of them were conservative movements where you're not diving with 20 pounds on your back, obviously, don't play a full message.
00:58:12,596 --> 00:58:14,758
Don't go through a full practice with your weight vest.
00:58:14,854 --> 00:58:24,618
I tried that in College and my coach was like, no, I did it in College and I do it to this day because I've acclimated to it.
00:58:24,644 --> 00:58:28,050
So like 15 pounds, it's a tight vest, too, so it fits well.
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:28,820
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:37,714
I played a couple of tournaments in Texas while wearing one without telling people just because for me that was part of my growth.
00:58:37,762 --> 00:58:38,010
00:58:38,060 --> 00:58:43,462
But if you want to make sure that you start moving quicker in some of these footwork areas in the Sands.
00:58:43,546 --> 00:58:51,094
I think adding a little bit of that weight patterning, that same ball over and over again, then you take that vest off and the movement is now patterned way faster.
00:58:51,142 --> 00:58:59,182
So as far as doing certain setting drills or defensive footwork getting into position, whatever it is, adding a little bit of weight made me learn things a lot faster.
00:58:59,206 --> 00:59:02,430
And I also lift a lot of weights, and I'm very body conscious.
00:59:03,050 --> 00:59:04,170
Don't get out there.
00:59:04,220 --> 00:59:14,542
And if you're not lifting weights, if you can't maybe squat your body weight, like this is not the time for you to throw in a weight vest and try a bunch of plyometric fields.
00:59:14,566 --> 00:59:16,578
So you need that base of strength first.
00:59:16,664 --> 00:59:21,222
Yes, but I would say that was the only implement I would use.
00:59:21,236 --> 00:59:22,654
We don't use a ton of stuff at practice.
00:59:22,702 --> 00:59:24,870
Just a box and shoulders.
00:59:25,310 --> 00:59:25,746
00:59:25,808 --> 00:59:34,954
And when you go to a tournament, is there any, like, secret goodies, secret gummy bears? Do you always have to have a Red Bull, a C four? I'm very caffeinated.
00:59:35,002 --> 00:59:48,178
Typically before a tournament, I have probably, like I would say 150 to 200 milligrams of caffeine, like whether that's coffee or like a Celsius or whatever that is for those people out there in a coffee, just one black cup of coffee.
00:59:48,214 --> 00:59:52,438
Like a regular size cup of coffee, you're looking at somewhere around 80 to 100 milligrams.
00:59:52,474 --> 00:59:57,310
It's probably a large cup of coffee or maybe two regular sizes.
00:59:57,370 --> 00:59:57,594
00:59:57,632 --> 01:00:00,594
And everybody's different as far as caffeine tolerance goes.
01:00:00,632 --> 01:00:06,622
But I think play better when I'm a little bit more tuned in and caffeine gets the blood flowing, the dilation.
01:00:06,706 --> 01:00:08,394
And I think it's important for me.
01:00:08,492 --> 01:00:09,834
It's just something I do now.
01:00:09,872 --> 01:00:15,274
I think it's important other than that they don't eat a ton tournament days, just carbs and water and salt.
01:00:15,322 --> 01:00:18,490
Saltins, literally, or like a loaf of bread.
01:00:18,550 --> 01:00:24,934
I'll go home and just eat literally saltine crackers, like 107 degrees outside in Texas.
01:00:24,982 --> 01:00:29,074
We're playing, and I'll eat a sleeve of saltines while I'm playing.
01:00:29,122 --> 01:00:35,022
And that's it just one of those two of those in water.
01:00:35,096 --> 01:00:36,414
And my balance is good.
01:00:36,452 --> 01:00:37,042
I have carbs.
01:00:37,066 --> 01:00:37,506
I have energy.
01:00:37,568 --> 01:00:41,622
It's very basic, but there's no secret carb, salt, water.
01:00:41,756 --> 01:00:45,394
I think it's the most important thing people the way they snack.
01:00:45,442 --> 01:00:46,962
Sometimes I want to eat light.
01:00:47,036 --> 01:00:52,554
So then they bring a salad and it's just like, no, you have zero energy for all of today.
01:00:52,712 --> 01:00:58,940
The carbohydrate intake is massively important for the large majority of everyone.
01:01:00,230 --> 01:01:06,270
If you want to perform that day and then the night before, a little bit car Bloating helps to get that carbohydrate store.
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,654
But during the day, fruit, if you want to go bread and salt jeans.
01:01:10,702 --> 01:01:12,178
Hey, you're getting rips.
01:01:12,334 --> 01:01:12,834
01:01:12,932 --> 01:01:19,018
And I try to stay away from I don't do any sugar or anything typically, but especially when I'm playing.
01:01:19,114 --> 01:01:21,382
I think one time I had full body cramps.
01:01:21,466 --> 01:01:38,780
I drank like, two or three Gatorades, never again, never again, personally, 100 degrees in Texas, and you got to be careful with what you're putting in your body as far as that stuff goes, and everybody's different, but I would be hard pressed to drink a Gatorade while playing again, like a sugar one.
01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:55,930
Are there any projects that you're working on right now? And for everybody who's just trying to reach out, wants to follow you, wants to see your journey and see what you're up to, where should they follow you? Should they reach out on Instagram? Yeah, I say Instagram.
01:01:56,670 --> 01:02:15,958
Instagram typically sees it first, and no, there's not a have any websites running or anything, just currently still chasing the now yellow and black volleyball, so me and Peter are going to be playing NVA team, which is the indoor League in the US, we're playing indoor, if you guys want to check that out too, they have a pretty cool stream of.
01:02:15,984 --> 01:02:20,642
Are you guys coming out to California for this tournament next week? I know Southern Exposures here because Chad Brown.
01:02:20,666 --> 01:02:21,814
Yes, so that's the one.
01:02:21,852 --> 01:02:22,690
That's the one.
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:23,878
That's exactly the one.
01:02:23,904 --> 01:02:24,838
So that'll be in.
01:02:24,864 --> 01:02:34,642
We're flying into Ontario and I forget Ten, Burgundy knows where it is, that's where the actual facility is, yeah, we'll be there, at least for one game, so we'll see you there.
01:02:34,836 --> 01:02:52,846
Is Chad playing this year?
01:02:52,968 --> 01:03:03,734
Yes, he's staying with me, he's now working for a Bitter Beach and he's, like, taking over social media, awesome, and he's just a great dude for anybody who hasn't met Java to the volleyball world, like, you got to go hang out with him, cool. For those people who are listening, Steve's Instagram is O-S-C-H-I-T-R-O-S-C-H-I-T-Z-O Shichroshitz.
01:03:03,842 --> 01:03:19,202
Oh, I get it, there you go, just got that for the first time, and we will, of course, include it in the show notes so that you guys can go ahead and follow him and click on his links, Steve, thanks for talking, man, nice getting to know you, nice hearing about your journey and see you on the phone, Fan.
01:03:19,286 --> 01:03:21,290
Awesome, thanks for having me on, bye.