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Mark Burik:
What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Better At Beach Volleyball Podcast where all we talk about and all we discuss is ways to get better at the game and in the end, just become a better human, a better person.
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Mark Burik:
And so if you're looking for volleyball tips, tricks and knowledge from pros and coaches, this is the place to be.
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Mark Burik:
Today on our video podcast, we have Sarah Schermerhorn, AVP FIVB pro.
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Sarah Schermerhorn
She's got a medal under her belt and she's got a high of a second, which is a life dream of a finish for 99.99
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Mark Burik:
99% of everyone out there.
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I'm sure she is ready to get her first this year.
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It's a real pleasure to have her on.
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She's helped us with our camps in Florida when we run our Better Beach Volleyball camps, seven day training vacations.
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And the reviews from our players were just that.
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She was crazy, fantastic as a person and a coach.
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Mark Burik:
So without further Ado, Sarah, welcome to the show.
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Mark Burik:
Thank you so much for hanging out with me.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Hey, thanks, Mark.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I appreciate you having me on.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm excited to chat some volleyball stuff with you.
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Mark Burik:
Heck yeah.
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Mark Burik:
You are partnering now with Corinne Quegel and you are on your way to Doha in a wee bit.
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Mark Burik:
But what was your day like today? Like if we were just diving in right into the life of Sarah, what was your day? What did you do?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
We had an 08:00 A.m.Practice this morning, so we were out.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Quick little breakfast on the court at 7:30, setting up.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Our coach is currently in Brazil right now, so we bring our Speaker, Victor Victor Gomez.
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Mark Burik:
Nice.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So he's coached me for the past ever since I started.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
He was one of my first coaches, but he's currently in Brazil and with COVID, he was able to kind of go online and be like an online coach.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So we go down, we set up, he sends us a Zoom link, we set up our cameras and he's able to be live with us at practice.
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Mark Burik:
I think I saw Karen in Florida actually doing one of those sessions last time I was there.
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She had just had the camera set up a little like kind of Speaker Bluetooth attached to it.
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And it's so cool.
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Mark Burik:
I mean, maybe we could get into that later.
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But the idea that you can set up a camera, you can coach, literally you can do online coaching live.
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And we do a version of that.
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Not quite as in detail as you guys do.
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We're actually at the practices, but it's possible for a coach to be there no matter where they are in the world and see what you're doing, guide your practice and start noticing things.
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Mark Burik:
So what's that experience like?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, it's been really cool. So I guess at the start of Kobe, Victor was back in Brazil and there was definitely a learning curve, I would say.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But he's been doing it for about two years now, and he's got his two camera angles that he likes to have.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And it's pretty cool because he can set up in his room and he's got two monitors.
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He can sit there with a notepad and take stats, and he can give just direct feedback back to us.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's been pretty incredible.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
He's a really special coach, so he's got lots of good tidbits that he throws in.
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Mark Burik:
What do you think his best asset as a coach? Like, if you were to say this is the one thing that I appreciate Victor the most for,
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
he's got a lot of good ones. But I would say the best thing that he's good at is kind of incorporating the mental training into practices.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like, a lot of coaches talk about it or the game is so important.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But he brings in kind of different techniques that consciously our practices are more, I guess, like frontal lobe conscious thinking so that we kind of get into the match situation, we're operating a little bit more smoothly and just kind of in his own.
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Mark Burik:
Now, is he guiding you in terms of, hey, this is how you focus.
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Hey, this is how you problem solve or this is how you communicate.
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Mark Burik:
Like, which type of mental coaching is the kind of touches on all this? Okay.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yes.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And a lot of what we practice is working on ourselves.
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It's working on how we handle our emotions, how we deal with certain situations.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Obviously, you've got volleyball is a very intimate sport with your partner, so how you communicate with your partner is very important.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But it's nice.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I feel like Corinne, Victor and I, we all kind of understand where he's coming from, not to say everything's perfect and everybody gets along 100% all the time, but just having the understanding to go forward.
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Mark Burik:
There's no way you get along if everybody's trying to be their best.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Right.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But it's just that trust in the process and trust in each other and knowing that if we follow the process, it'll all come together.
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Mark Burik:
Okay.
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So you guys are kind of working through the relationships.
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It seems.
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I don't know.
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Social media is interesting, weird fun.
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Mark Burik:
It seems like you and Corinne get along.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
We've spent a lot of time together since we've partnered up, me being in Florida, her being in California.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
We've just kind of made it work where we're practicing together a lot.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think my husband has seen Karen about every time that he sees me.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Well, just because it's all good.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It kind of feels like a sister.
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It's kind of just like she fits right in to the family.
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Her parents are all awesome.
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Her mom plays a ball.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
My mom plays tennis and pickleball.
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She's got two siblings.
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She's a middle child.
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I have two siblings.
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I'm a middle child.
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Mark Burik:
Not that those are like, yeah, but you got stuff to talk about right away.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
And you can nod your head and be like, yeah, both of our dads are like, big speakers.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Corinne's dad does speaking for a living.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And my dad was in sales, so same thing.
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Mark Burik:
So that's speaking for a living.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, right.
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Mark Burik:
I want to take school from both of your dad's.
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Public speaking is something that I really want to get into.
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And then sales is something that I have no idea how to do.
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Mark Burik:
But we have a company.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
There you go.
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Mark Burik:
I'm just like, you know what? I'm just going to talk to people and maybe that will help people from our camps and courses.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I feel like you're doing a pretty good job, Mark.
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Mark Burik:
Oh, thanks.
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Mark Burik:
Getting there.
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Maybe.
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Mark Burik:
We'll see.
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Mark Burik:
But I would love to take some lessons from your dad, who owns a company called Beach Bub beachBub.
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Mark Burik:
Tell me about just briefly tell me about Beach Bub and what it is and how people can get one.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Beach Bub stands for Beach Umbrella Base.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So we just shortened it and turn it into an acronym.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But it started as just a base to hold an umbrella from flying away on a windy day or just on a normal day.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But it started from the base and it's kind of taken off.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
The base was really stable.
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Like, a lot of people in the early days came back and said, the base is awesome.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Where can we get a good umbrella that matches the quality of the base? So my dad was going out and he tells the story so much better than I do, but it also takes him 30 minutes to tell it sometimes because he's got all the details.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But anyway, he basically went out, developed a whole umbrella, whole system.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
He's taken, like, you know, goes after one point after another.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But all the little weak parts of an umbrella, he's just really made better, made more sturdy.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But the whole concept is it's very similar to a patio umbrella where you have a weighted base.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's usually plastic, filled with water.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And my dad was sitting on the beach one day and saw an umbrella pick up, go down the beach and hit someone.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
He's like, what makes a patio umbrella work so well? And he's like, It's weighted.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And he's like, well, we're sitting on the beach and all the sand that's heavy.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
How can we use this to make a base? So basically, the base itself is very light.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
The umbrella is very light and portable, but it's just a triangular tarp.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Your umbrella goes down through, there's a hole in the middle.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Just to kind of stabilize the umbrella, you fill it with sand, it holds £120 of sand and your umbrella, it's all connected to the pole.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So you're set for the day.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
All your weight is there.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
When you're done, you unhook it, you unload your stand, you walk off with your ten pound little umbrella.
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Mark Burik:
That's great.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You can get on Amazon.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, Amazon and their website, beach bub, and you'll see them out of the AVP in the players boxes and around.
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Mark Burik:
Awesome.
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Mark Burik:
Nice to have a little family that supports the VB game, and you got a built in sponsor, which is always nice.
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Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
You can go and submit your expense report for beachBub.
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Mark Burik:
I will speed travel and tournament fees.
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Mark Burik:
I like that.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Exactly.
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Mark Burik:
So, Sarah, let's dive back into your path to volleyball and then beach volleyball.
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Mark Burik:
When and why did you start playing indoor and or beach? Were you a beach or first or indoor first?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Definitely indoor first. I grew up in North Carolina.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
My whole family plays tennis, and my brother is really good at tennis
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Mark Burik:
at Elon University. Is that right?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah. So you played at NC State for a year or two and then transferred to Elon kind of the same time that I went in on my recruiting.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
There's a little bit of, like, who committed first, but I think it was me.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then he just went there the year before I did.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But yes, we went to the same school.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
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Everybody played tennis.
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He was really good.
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It was his thing.
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I think I wanted my own thing.
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So I was kind of like tennis practice.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't know.
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I don't want to go.
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I was like, look, you're not going to do tennis, you know, got to do something else.
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So I tried out for volleyball and loved it.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's kind of a nice little mesh.
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Mark Burik:
I had aspects of tennis, the overhead serve, the arm swing States, and you could pick up a number of athletes have come from tennis, and you're just like, I'll put you on a volleyball court and the serve, and at least when they hop and spike, it's just so natural immediately, just because you have that constant overhead high motion already built in.
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Mark Burik:
So tennis was my first sport.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Okay.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I didn't know that.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah, I got that, like, my stupid slice serve that put some people in trouble, and that's all my second serve.
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Like, all my serves come from some version of tennis.
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Mark Burik:
Yes.
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Okay.
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Mark Burik:
And then.
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Mark Burik:
So you went there for indoor.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I went there for indoor, and it was actually I went there from 2007 to 2010, but there were two years that we did a so Con Beach tournament.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
This was before beach volleyball was like, I guess they were talking about it.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like, my freshman thought, oh, we might make this an NCAA sport.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So it was in the spring.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Everybody from the Socalled went to the Rec courts and their indoor coaches.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Everybody went out for a week and kind of, like, learned the rules.
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Like, you're not allowed to tip.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You can't set with or receive the very basic rules.
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Mark Burik:
Literally almost got in a fist fight.
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Mark Burik:
My first beach volleyball tournament, me and my brother had both played indoor, and they kept calling us for doubles, and we'd played indoor.
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And we know that that's, like, not a double in indoor.
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And we thought that because we were the new guys, like, they were messing with us or stealing points from us that we got in their face.
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And then a little 55 year old man was like, guys, I think there's something you're not understanding.
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There are actual different rules from the two sports, and we're like, yeah.
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So we had to calm ourselves down a little bit.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
definitely.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I hope there aren't that many videos from that tournament.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It would be funny to go back and watch.
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Mark Burik:
That would be awesome.
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Mark Burik:
You should do a reaction video on YouTube and just reacts to her first ever beach volleyball game.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
That would be great.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't know if there's but if there is anything for sure, but yeah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So that was kind of my first experience, and that even more so was like a good combination between tennis and indoor volleyball.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I was like, okay, this is really the sport.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
This is like the golden sport.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I would love to play.
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Mark Burik:
This is it because it's like more freedom of movement.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So, like, as a middle, you're not really in control of the game.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You're kind of reacting.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You could go in, play the whole front row, maybe block, fake, whatever.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You may not even get set.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You may not touch the ball.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You come out.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So beach volleyball play? Yeah, I guess play.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I have to play.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I like that about tennis, where you kind of have to you're the only one on the court.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
There are no subs.
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You got to figure it out.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
If something's not going your way, you got to figure out how to change it as quick as you can.
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Mark Burik:
Right.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I like that aspect of each volleyball kind of played some local tournaments, but then went overseas and played three years of indoor volleyball.
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Mark Burik:
Denmark and France.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Denmark and France.
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No, two years in France.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Our neighbors played in Sweden.
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Maybe we're there a little.
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Sweden.
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Mark Burik:
Sweden and Norway.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
It's cold up there.
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Mark Burik:
I don't like the cold, but it was different.
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But I was kind of envious of Denmark.
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I don't know.
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I think Scandinavia is awesome.
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I don't like how expensive everything is.
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I thought the people were just fantastic.
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For whatever reason, the language was kind of easy to pick up.
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Danish.
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Swedish and Norwegian.
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I was able to at least be conversational.
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That's kind of the coolest part.
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Mark Burik:
The Americans who go over and they don't learn any part of the language. I'm like, what are you doing?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I have a couple of words, but everybody in Denmark, even, like the older generations, they all spoke English so well, it was a very easy stepping stone into living in Europe.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
They use words like remarkable.
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Mark Burik:
Why do you know that word? Okay, so you're playing indoor, and then when does speech come along?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yes, I finished indoor I guess in 2014 and decided I was just, you know, I didn't want to do it forever. I kind of had the experience that I wanted.
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Came back living in North Toronto.
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I was helping my brother with his real estate investment company.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
There's a local club called Beach South up there.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't know if you know.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Do you know Scott? Have you ever Scott Cassie? I do.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Beach south is his club.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But he was like, hey, if you want to coach, we'd love to have you.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Whatever.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I was getting more involved in the training and beach volleyball up there.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And it was actually Scott, we were going down to Florida to play a tournament.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And he was like, well, women's open the first day.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
If you want to come, I can set you up with a partner.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You can play.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then we'll coach the next day.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I was like, okay, it's kind of been a minute since I played because in North Carolina, you're not like training back then.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
You're not really training year round.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
King Melville had just graduated from Steps and she had played indoor and he was like, she needs a partner.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I was like, okay, this girl is like all the time.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'll go pop in with her.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But yeah, we ended up I think we took second.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think we played.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I want to say we played Kim, Phil dress and Kaya in the files.
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Mark Burik:
First open level beach trim.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I mean, aside from like a Wilmington or.
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Mark Burik:
Oh, screw you.
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Mark Burik:
That's your first experience.
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Mark Burik:
I got my ass kicked in a and AAA for a while.
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Mark Burik:
Jesus.
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Mark Burik:
Okay.
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Mark Burik:
Go on.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Mel's a great defender.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
We just had a lot of fun.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And so the rest of that year she was playing NVL, but she would come up and play a lot of the local stuff with me.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Her parents lived in North Carolina, so we just scooted around and just played a bunch of tournaments.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Did really well.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And she was like, you should just come to Florida and train with me for a little bit.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And yeah, she was pretty convincing and she basically got me to move there.
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Mark Burik:
That's awesome.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I ended up staying with her roommate from College, who I had never met.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And we ended up living with them for two years.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And she's one of my great, awesome friends that to this day, we're still great friends.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
She's about to graduate, get a nurse practitioner degree this weekend.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
She's an awesome but yeah, well, not Mel, but the girl that she hooked me up with.
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Mark Burik:
Okay.
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Mark Burik:
I still think Mel's an awesome person.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yes, Mel is still awesome.
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Mark Burik:
I'm sure this other guy is cool, too.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Cool.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But yeah.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So that's kind of how it all started.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then.
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Mark Burik:
Do you know Raquel Ferrera?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah. So Raquel and Victor were kind of like my first coaches down there.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
The first season, Kim was playing with Raquel and I was playing with, and that was kind of our training group down there.
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Mark Burik:
Nice.
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Mark Burik:
It's a small group.
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Mark Burik:
You got to have those small, tight groups in Florida because while the high level is still the highest level, like, competitively across the country, there's only like a maximum of six people there.
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Mark Burik:
So it's probably your training.
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Mark Burik:
It's the same people all the time if you want quality competition.
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Mark Burik:
Whereas once you come out to California, it's like, which of this 30 person list should I call to see if they're available for practice,
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
right? Yeah. I don't know.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It was interesting.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I guess I kind of, like practiced and developed in a very different place.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
California, everybody switched their training group up a lot.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
They're always training with different teams.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It was kind of nice in Florida where we had there were other times where Victor was coached and he would bring his Brazilian team up.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So it was like kind of the two of us going back and forth, they weren't really our competition, but he could kind of dive into a lot of stuff as like a for some of what we're working on, we can kind of be on the same path.
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Mark Burik:
I think that's what's missing from pro in California.
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Mark Burik:
Usa Volleyball has done a lot with their A teams now where they've got four teams that they'll invest in and they'll bring all the coaches there, but they didn't do it long enough.
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Mark Burik:
They didn't do it early enough.
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Mark Burik:
And there's still not the pipeline that gets, at least from the men's side there to say we are all working on this together and going forward and all of the pros it's so what's the word? It's cannibalistic almost because you want to train against other people, but you don't want to train against them too often because you think you want to diversify your enemies so that you can become equipped to battle a different person.
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Mark Burik:
And you also don't want them to learn your game too well.
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Mark Burik:
And you're also always seeing like, if you could train against the next highest, better team instead of, dude, it's about you, right? No, it's not about them.
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Mark Burik:
How good can you get? Can you keep your focus? And I think California misses that because of how many good players we have here.
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Mark Burik:
It's almost a bad situation.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Well, so much what I liked about it was like we kind of went in and we're building on our own program.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
We have our own routine.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
When you go practice another team, it's like, okay, whose coach is running the practice? You don't necessarily sometimes you're like, what do you want to work on? And it's just, I don't know, you lose a little bit of plan, like where your coaches like, this is how we're building you from this part of the season to here.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And it's very progressive and you've got those stepping stones and it's week in, week out.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I mean, it's nice for sure to compete against different teams, but I don't necessarily think you need it every day or even every week.
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Mark Burik:
I have a theory that like American volleyball for beach would improve if you developed like three team clubs in the ADP instead of everybody always going against each other.
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Mark Burik:
So those three, you practice together, you develop a plan, you set yourself forth and then it's actually affordable.
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Mark Burik:
Instead of two people trying to pay one fulltime coach, now you've got six people paying a fulltime coach.
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Mark Burik:
So that coach actually can survive.
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Mark Burik:
They can give you the time to go into film with you, to go into your listing program to go into this.
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Mark Burik:
But when two people are outside the top three rankings, they cannot afford a full time coach and we lose because of that.
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Mark Burik:
And then USA volleyball only supports the stipend for the top like three teams, give or take, give or take.
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Mark Burik:
I think there's still something left to be desired for what USA is allowing for, where the level can get for Americans.
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Mark Burik:
And I think NCAA on the women's side has taken care of that where you guys are going to take an ass globally.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, but that is what about the College game is that you have that camaraderie and everybody is kind of working together.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And so what if you know this person's strengths or weaknesses? Again, like you said, it comes back to like you, how you're going to perform, you know, some tendencies or whatever.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But it's basically you managing your own game over here.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But it's nice to see the camaraderie.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's nice to see more than just like two people cheering for themselves.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah, right.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
And a lot of times in our world it becomes one person cheering for yourself and just wondering if your partner is going to leave, who he or she is texting after practice.
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Mark Burik:
Let's just go back to kind of your career to get to a final and AVP is unbelievable to get a medal and Fib is unbelievable.
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Mark Burik:
Now, do you think that there was a significant exact point that you go this was the most crucial time in my volleyball career.
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Mark Burik:
Like, was it Kaylee who just brought you to the sand? Was it Scott inviting you to coach sand or was it before that during indoor?
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah. I mean, I kind of think the moment where I was like, okay, beach volleyball is something that I could do was when we played the Socalled tournaments, how old are you? How old was I? 19 or 20.
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Mark Burik:
Oh, wow.
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Mark Burik:
Okay.
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Mark Burik:
Alright.
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Mark Burik:
So in College you were still like on the beach and indoor.
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Mark Burik:
Okay.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
That was like my first ever experience with playing beach.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Was that so Cain Beach tournament and I was a sophomore.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So what do you use the sophomore? 19 or 20.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I don't know, I just think I kind of always kept an open mind that if an opportunity kind of present itself that I, you know, and it was made sense or the right timing that I would pursue it a little bit.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I think I've just been very just an open book.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Kind of like I think when one Victor were my coaches, which I think I was very spoiled to have such high caliber coaches when I was just entering that we're able to environment.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, I know.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I mean, I think things just kind of like fell in place.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
But at the same time, I think I just was just trying to be a sponge and absorb as much as I could with an open mind and just take it one step at a time.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I was like, okay, well, if this makes sense, I don't think I moved to Florida to be like, hey, I'm going for going to be an Fav pro.
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Mark Burik:
I just want to play some volleyball.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I just want to play some volleyball and learn and see if that's something that I'm capable of doing.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And that's just kind of been my mindset from the get go.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
It kind of still is my mindset.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think it's just literally one day at a time, see what opportunities present themselves and make the most of them.
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Mark Burik:
It's cool to hear that the root of it came from and I've been big on this lately.
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Mark Burik:
Community developers, people who put on tournaments, who put on leagues, who just start classes locally for us, like we run our volleyball vacations.
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Mark Burik:
But to say that the availability of playing on the sand for you may have created a major chapter in your life.
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Mark Burik:
And what gives you so much enjoyment just because somebody was putting on a tournament, putting on a League? I think those people are underappreciated guys like Rich Highlands and Wayne Gantt from Great American Volleyball, and anybody who's got like two courts outside of a bar and decides to just at least create a list and a bracket for a tournament.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Right.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
You're a community organizer.
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Mark Burik:
You've grown something and some kid somebody might find their future here.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Sure.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I haven't actually ever thought about that.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't know who actually ever was the mind behind putting that for two years, but I do owe them a great thing.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So whoever that was, we'll find them guys.
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Mark Burik:
Comment? Yes.
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Mark Burik:
Who was running? What was it? Khan.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Soak so the SoCon was it had like Elon Furman, UNCG.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
There were just a couple of Brangon Fuller was playing at UNCG at the time.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
She had some beach experience.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then there was a girl in my team from Orange County, California.
369
00:26:55,294 --> 00:27:03,258
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So there were like two or three players in there that were a little more familiar with beach volleyball for sure.
370
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then the rest of us were just playing indoor on the sand.
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Mark Burik:
Sometimes it's not a bad way to go.
372
00:27:12,252 --> 00:27:16,210
Mark Burik:
I think more people can bring their indoor game better to sand.
373
00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:19,930
Mark Burik:
Just learn how to rip fingertips off when you need to.
374
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:27,038
Mark Burik:
When you're in trouble, it's a nice little move, but indoor sand.
375
00:27:27,134 --> 00:27:40,570
Mark Burik:
So what do you think in terms of becoming a beach volleyball player? What do you think are the two most important attributes? They can be mental or physical, but the two most important attributes of a successful player.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I tend to go mental.
377
00:27:44,378 --> 00:27:45,120
Mark Burik:
Okay.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
Not that I tend to go mental, but I go to the mental side of things.
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Sarah Schermerhorn:
I would say for me, one of the big ones is like finding the positive in a situation kind of goes hand in hand with being comfortable, being uncomfortable, because I just think there's so much that can go wrong.
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00:28:07,950 --> 00:28:10,618
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You've got waves and ups and downs all the time.
381
00:28:10,644 --> 00:28:24,134
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And it's such a fast sport that if you can just I'm just saying if you can focus on the positives and pull those out of every situation, then you keep building on those and you kind of stay in that headspace.
382
00:28:24,182 --> 00:28:28,150
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I think that's just an important way of keeping a good mindset.
383
00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:37,906
Mark Burik:
I hold people apparently on this show to giving actual direct examples because that whole thing of like being mentally strong.
384
00:28:37,968 --> 00:28:39,746
Mark Burik:
Turn positive, turn negatives into positives.
385
00:28:39,758 --> 00:28:40,320
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Right.
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Mark Burik:
What was another one that we had recently mentally tough? Emotional intelligence.
387
00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:51,310
Mark Burik:
These are words that I say.
388
00:28:51,360 --> 00:29:04,210
Mark Burik:
Guest I apologize, but you're going to have to dive a little deeper and give me a direct example of what you mean when you say turn something positive or be comfortable.
389
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:09,158
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Well, positive one for me is just the way you kind of communicate on the quirk you and your partner.
390
00:29:09,314 --> 00:29:12,298
Sarah Schermerhorn:
No, you're me.
391
00:29:12,324 --> 00:29:12,514
Mark Burik:
Okay.
392
00:29:12,552 --> 00:29:17,450
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I'm communicating to my partner and I'm like, I want to change the strategy.
393
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:17,986
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Okay.
394
00:29:18,108 --> 00:29:25,006
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm really frustrated with something my partner's doing and maybe she's hitting line and they're just digging her line.
395
00:29:25,188 --> 00:29:26,794
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I could kind of go two ways.
396
00:29:26,832 --> 00:29:30,610
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I could be like, stop shooting the line like they're there, whatever.
397
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,540
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Or I can give her a little bit more positive thing and say, hey, she's running to the line.
398
00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:41,146
Sarah Schermerhorn:
The cuts open, the deep heart, swing middle.
399
00:29:41,268 --> 00:29:52,318
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Instead of just saying this is what you don't have or putting the attention on what's not going well, why not give some positive feedback? I just think the brain does what you tell it to do.
400
00:29:52,344 --> 00:29:55,802
Sarah Schermerhorn:
If you say don't think of an elephant, an elephant.
401
00:29:55,886 --> 00:30:05,674
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But if you direct somebody and you say, hey, think of Steph Curry Twilight, a ball in his finger, whatever you say is what people are going to think.
402
00:30:05,712 --> 00:30:10,298
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Whether you put the do or the don't in front of it doesn't really matter to our brain.
403
00:30:10,334 --> 00:30:11,580
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't think so.
404
00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:19,754
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think just always trying to communicate in a way that's like what we want to happen, what I want to happen and to my partner.
405
00:30:19,802 --> 00:30:22,178
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I think just that kind of that understanding.
406
00:30:22,214 --> 00:30:24,002
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think that's a big part on the court.
407
00:30:24,026 --> 00:30:29,122
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So whether it's communicating or whether I'm self talk to myself, the same sort of thing.
408
00:30:29,256 --> 00:30:36,190
Sarah Schermerhorn:
If I just passed the ball tight, what's the point in saying, God, I was too tight and just say, hey, I'm going to pass this ball a little further off next time.
409
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:46,690
Mark Burik:
And I think that when you're talking the communication, when you're saying, like, hey, don't hit line anymore, that doesn't give good instruction.
410
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:50,640
Mark Burik:
People want to learn what's available, what they can do.
411
00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:54,360
Mark Burik:
Nobody wants to hear what they can't do.
412
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:57,238
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Also, you're leaving so many options open.
413
00:30:57,324 --> 00:31:00,300
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like, I can hit the ball in the court over there.
414
00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:04,598
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I can shoot, I can swing, I can tool off the block.
415
00:31:04,634 --> 00:31:10,260
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like, yeah, I've unlimited options of what I now, okay, I've limited one option so I can't shoot the line.
416
00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:12,010
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Okay.
417
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:20,640
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So now what am I supposed to do? Right?
418
00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:27,034
Mark Burik:
Let's hit two cut shots right now just to hold her so that we have that line at the end of the match. A little kind of maybe tricky, but a little bit more positive way of putting it.
419
00:31:27,072 --> 00:31:29,940
Mark Burik:
And me and Chad, Chad's hanging out here as well.
420
00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:39,802
Mark Burik:
We're talking yesterday about, I know when somebody says, hey, hit that cut shot, and she says, I know.
421
00:31:52,090 --> 00:31:53,678
Mark Burik:
and it'll be received a different way.
422
00:31:53,704 --> 00:31:56,478
Mark Burik:
It will create a whole different vibe between you and your partners.
423
00:31:56,574 --> 00:32:05,042
Mark Burik:
But that statement of I know that is a quick way to never get feedback from your partner ever again.
424
00:32:05,116 --> 00:32:07,960
Mark Burik:
And then you're not sharing information and you're done right.
425
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:12,460
Mark Burik:
The way you say I know, I think is the way you say, I know.
426
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:16,838
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Well, just touching on communication again.
427
00:32:16,864 --> 00:32:25,250
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I feel like even when you are calling a shot or maybe you're in service, even you're calling mine and yours.
428
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:27,498
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Well, let's just go back to the shot.
429
00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:34,540
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You can be telling your partner like line or you can be like line sometimes.
430
00:32:35,050 --> 00:32:45,774
Sarah Schermerhorn:
The way you say something, you can really make your partner act in a different little nuances.
431
00:32:45,822 --> 00:32:51,426
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But they're all, I think, very important things to pay attention to and practice.
432
00:32:51,498 --> 00:32:56,838
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's important to practice how you're communicating with your partner, how your tone affects your partner.
433
00:32:56,934 --> 00:33:00,902
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Maybe something too aggressive makes her swing 110%.
434
00:33:00,916 --> 00:33:03,580
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And that's not necessarily good either.
435
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:08,690
Mark Burik:
You don't want to get them too mad because maybe they're terrible when they're aggressive.
436
00:33:09,850 --> 00:33:11,966
Sarah Schermerhorn:
They're just important things to think about.
437
00:33:12,028 --> 00:33:18,734
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And practice isn't just the skill and the touching of the ball all the time.
438
00:33:18,832 --> 00:33:20,666
Sarah Schermerhorn:
There's a lot more that goes into it.
439
00:33:20,848 --> 00:33:26,200
Mark Burik:
Just like a little kind of side note for a little tool that we have that we use while we're talking about it.
440
00:33:26,650 --> 00:33:31,070
Mark Burik:
We have a thing on betteratbeach.com, and I think you should try it.
441
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,190
Mark Burik:
It's called betterbeach.com/
442
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:33,894
Mark Burik:
partnerprofile.
443
00:33:34,002 --> 00:33:38,138
Mark Burik:
What it does is it makes you answer certain questions about yourself.
444
00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:45,626
Mark Burik:
And really, I stole half of the answers and just converted them from a marriage counseling book.
445
00:33:45,748 --> 00:33:48,618
Mark Burik:
I read a few books, like on marriage and relationships before I got married.
446
00:33:48,654 --> 00:33:50,318
Mark Burik:
I was like, I'm going into this the rest of my life.
447
00:33:50,344 --> 00:33:51,578
Mark Burik:
You better damn well no.
448
00:33:51,604 --> 00:33:53,560
Mark Burik:
I'm going to research it and be good at it.
449
00:33:54,010 --> 00:33:56,030
Mark Burik:
I'm like, crap on marriage on day one.
450
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,100
Mark Burik:
Like, let's go.
451
00:33:57,790 --> 00:34:02,858
Mark Burik:
So I went to the marriage gym and got my one rep Max up.
452
00:34:02,944 --> 00:34:06,822
Mark Burik:
But if you guys are looking for it, it's called betteratbeach.
453
00:34:06,906 --> 00:34:09,210
Mark Burik:
com/partnerprofile.
454
00:34:09,330 --> 00:34:13,742
Mark Burik:
And it forces you to answer questions about yourself that you probably don't think about.
455
00:34:13,876 --> 00:34:28,670
Mark Burik:
Like, for you, Sarah, what's the number one way to fire you up? Just give me, like, five words or a sentence that, you know, excite you or put you in a good mood.
456
00:34:29,650 --> 00:34:31,370
Sarah Schermerhorn:
That put me in a good mood.
457
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:36,220
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I mean, I would say I'm just going to touch because I'm in this partnership right now.
458
00:34:37,330 --> 00:34:40,986
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I feel like we just say things that make each other giggle.
459
00:34:41,058 --> 00:34:50,718
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I know that sounds silly, but we just laugh a lot back and forth, and it's nice to go into a match or practice.
460
00:34:50,754 --> 00:34:53,282
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Just kind of in a good mood, right.
461
00:34:53,416 --> 00:35:00,174
Sarah Schermerhorn:
No matter what's happening, we can make jokes, but then I feel like we both can kind of get into that zone.
462
00:35:00,282 --> 00:35:07,070
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But I think first and foremost, we want to go out and have fun and enjoy what we're doing.
463
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,522
Sarah Schermerhorn:
We get this opportunity to play beach volleyball.
464
00:35:09,666 --> 00:35:13,610
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I think it's just like, here's another opportunity.
465
00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:14,730
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm excited.
466
00:35:14,850 --> 00:35:16,098
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm happy to play this sport.
467
00:35:16,134 --> 00:35:18,940
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm going to go out here and have fun and enjoy what I'm doing.
468
00:35:21,590 --> 00:35:29,060
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think both of us are kind of in that same place that honestly just, like, going out there and being like, okay, we're just going to have fun.
469
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:31,234
Sarah Schermerhorn:
We've trained.
470
00:35:31,402 --> 00:35:32,754
Sarah Schermerhorn:
We know what we need to do.
471
00:35:32,852 --> 00:35:36,390
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's literally get to go out here and enjoy what we've worked so hard to do.
472
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Let's just go enjoy.
473
00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:52,570
Mark Burik:
Is there a wrong time to try to make you giggle? Like, if you just got blocked three or four times in a row, am I supposed to tell you a joke? Is your partner or tickle you? I'm not kidding.
474
00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:54,862
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's got to be the right.
475
00:35:55,056 --> 00:35:55,800
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
476
00:35:56,490 --> 00:36:05,962
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Again, those are, like, the nuances you kind of have to understand with your partner because they're definitely,
477
00:36:06,096 --> 00:36:11,294
Mark Burik:
I think talk about understand is tough to tell people. You have to know when nobody knows, when you want something in your head emotionally.
478
00:36:11,462 --> 00:36:22,850
Mark Burik:
And if it's not the time to laugh anymore when you're being pushed around on the court, somebody has to know that,
479
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,600
Sarah Schermerhorn:
right? Yeah. I haven't quite run into that.
480
00:36:26,410 --> 00:36:27,498
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You've just never been stopped.
481
00:36:27,534 --> 00:36:28,420
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I get it.
482
00:36:30,250 --> 00:36:33,182
Sarah Schermerhorn:
In this partnership, I haven't really run into that.
483
00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:37,850
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But there are definitely times in the past where you're like, yeah, I know what you mean.
484
00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:41,920
Mark Burik:
I know what you mean? Sounds like you don't have an answer.
485
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:57,186
Mark Burik:
Well, what's the best thing to tell you? This is like the next question again, guys, if you want to check out this, we're not putting Sarah on the hotspot for more than one more question.
486
00:36:57,308 --> 00:37:00,958
Mark Burik:
But if you do want to check it out for you and your partner, it's super valuable.
487
00:37:00,994 --> 00:37:01,882
Mark Burik:
Just better at beach.
488
00:37:01,966 --> 00:37:04,510
Mark Burik:
Compartnerprofile.
489
00:37:04,570 --> 00:37:09,138
Mark Burik:
And there's a bunch of leading questions to discover what your game is about and what your emotional mindset is about.
490
00:37:09,164 --> 00:37:12,262
Mark Burik:
So you can share that with your partner and then both get a feed.
491
00:37:12,346 --> 00:37:23,046
Mark Burik:
So it sounds like the answer that one of the questions on the profile says, what's the best way to start your engines? And for you, it sounds like having a good time.
492
00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:25,318
Mark Burik:
Get me laughing, get me in a positive mood.
493
00:37:25,414 --> 00:37:31,938
Mark Burik:
Whereas some guys might be like, punch me in the chest 13 times and that'll make me want to kill somebody, and that's how I play.
494
00:37:31,964 --> 00:37:54,858
Mark Burik:
Well, so what would be a turn off for you? What is the absolute wrong word or trigger for your partner to tell you after you got blocked or dug three times in a row?
495
00:37:55,004 --> 00:38:00,702
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like, kind of going back to we can't do this anymore, or that's not working. Or it's just something that's, like, open ended where you didn't really offer a solution there.
496
00:38:00,716 --> 00:38:02,358
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You just kind of reinforced that.
497
00:38:02,384 --> 00:38:04,340
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, I can see that's not working.
498
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:07,820
Sarah Schermerhorn:
That doesn't really help me if you tell me that's not working.
499
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:09,560
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Thank you.
500
00:38:10,370 --> 00:38:12,320
Mark Burik:
Wow, I forgot we lost that point.
501
00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:16,402
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think I'm a smart person.
502
00:38:16,476 --> 00:38:18,574
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think I can analyze and realize that.
503
00:38:18,612 --> 00:38:18,886
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
504
00:38:18,948 --> 00:38:20,170
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Not successful.
505
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:33,300
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Something that kind of undermines your questions, like your intelligence or your capabilities on the court, maybe.
506
00:38:34,410 --> 00:38:41,242
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So again, that kind of goes back to just really trusting your partner, trusting that I know what they're capable of.
507
00:38:41,256 --> 00:38:50,498
Sarah Schermerhorn:
They know what I'm capable of and speaking to each other and communicating in a way that's like if they make a joke or something, I don't think you're not capable.
508
00:38:50,594 --> 00:38:54,374
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Or it's kind of maybe like, oh, shoot, that was just a really good block.
509
00:38:54,422 --> 00:38:57,540
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Maybe that's why not like a dumb move on.
510
00:38:59,130 --> 00:39:00,310
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's tricky.
511
00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:05,606
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And they're just those little nuances and connotations in just the way you communicate.
512
00:39:05,738 --> 00:39:08,702
Mark Burik:
So what a safe default for you? Be? Keep ripping.
513
00:39:08,726 --> 00:39:09,622
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You got this.
514
00:39:09,756 --> 00:39:10,774
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, exactly.
515
00:39:10,872 --> 00:39:12,070
Sarah Schermerhorn:
To keep it positive.
516
00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:24,842
Mark Burik:
And you don't want somebody to try to find a solution, like to tell you a certain hit at that point or what's open or to tell you to breathe or to give you technical feedback.
517
00:39:24,986 --> 00:39:34,694
Mark Burik:
Last, it would be like, okay, so the safe default is to tell you to do something positive, but you don't want technical feedback when you're in trouble.
518
00:39:34,862 --> 00:39:40,246
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It could be technical if it's like maybe someone if it's a do instead of a don't do.
519
00:39:40,368 --> 00:39:42,190
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, they're swinging line.
520
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:46,870
Sarah Schermerhorn:
If someone's kind of beating me on the line, it's like they keep going on.
521
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,682
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Maybe just that one more step and really seal that line like you got it.
522
00:39:51,696 --> 00:39:53,400
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Just reach that line.
523
00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:54,480
Mark Burik:
Okay.
524
00:39:54,870 --> 00:40:01,414
Mark Burik:
So you have it if instead of do this or don't do this the best way maybe to get it.
525
00:40:01,452 --> 00:40:03,658
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm not a big fan of the don't do this.
526
00:40:03,804 --> 00:40:04,500
Mark Burik:
Okay.
527
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:06,838
Mark Burik:
It's a big turn off to me.
528
00:40:06,984 --> 00:40:08,700
Mark Burik:
I think for a lot of people, that is.
529
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:20,938
Mark Burik:
And people go through it constantly, and they're just like, all right, what am I going to do? Then again, going back to that one thing where it's don't tell me what I can't do now.
530
00:40:20,964 --> 00:40:22,738
Mark Burik:
I'm going to try to prove you wrong.
531
00:40:22,884 --> 00:40:23,580
Mark Burik:
Exactly.
532
00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:32,158
Mark Burik:
You know your partner so well that you love the tribe Horn where it's like, tell me I can't, right? Yeah.
533
00:40:32,184 --> 00:40:39,994
Mark Burik:
But that belongs to come from somebody else, maybe not your partner, but if you know that that person next to you loves the challenge, you won't hit over him right now.
534
00:40:40,032 --> 00:40:43,920
Mark Burik:
I bet you can't hit over him straight down just to try to get him to reach higher.
535
00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:45,000
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
536
00:40:46,170 --> 00:40:46,774
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's different.
537
00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:49,958
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But that's still got, like playful, positive connotation.
538
00:40:50,054 --> 00:40:50,602
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
539
00:40:50,736 --> 00:40:51,322
Mark Burik:
Nice.
540
00:40:51,456 --> 00:40:51,754
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
541
00:40:51,792 --> 00:41:01,282
Mark Burik:
So knowing what words set you off, knowing what reaction set you off if you don't know them as a player, you have to learn them.
542
00:41:01,356 --> 00:41:03,214
Mark Burik:
If you as a coach, don't know them.
543
00:41:03,252 --> 00:41:09,614
Mark Burik:
For each individual player, you're not being a coach, especially long term, like short term.
544
00:41:09,662 --> 00:41:10,090
Mark Burik:
Okay.
545
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,434
Mark Burik:
You only got so much time.
546
00:41:11,472 --> 00:41:12,350
Mark Burik:
But through a season.
547
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:17,846
Mark Burik:
If you don't know that when you say, hey, you're being really lazy right now, that for me, that's my trigger.
548
00:41:17,978 --> 00:41:24,490
Mark Burik:
If a coach calls me lazy like, that's literally the one thing in my life that I've prided myself on never being my entire life.
549
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,880
Mark Burik:
I always work.
550
00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:31,870
Mark Burik:
As soon as you call me lazy, I don't have respect for you as a coach anymore because I know that you're blind.
551
00:41:32,370 --> 00:41:33,120
Mark Burik:
Right.
552
00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:35,818Mark Burik:
That's my trigger word for sure.
553
00:41:35,904 --> 00:41:36,298
Mark Burik:
Right.
554
00:41:36,384 --> 00:41:40,020
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Anything that kind of puts in doubt, like who you are as a person.
555
00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:42,240
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yes.
556
00:41:42,690 --> 00:41:43,402
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's a turn off.
557
00:41:43,416 --> 00:41:45,766
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's like, okay, maybe you don't really know me.
558
00:41:45,828 --> 00:41:47,770
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then, yeah, it's hard.
559
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:49,946
Sarah Schermerhorn:
The trust is broken.
560
00:41:50,138 --> 00:41:51,120
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, exactly.
561
00:41:51,690 --> 00:41:52,342
Mark Burik:
Cool.
562
00:41:52,476 --> 00:41:52,918
Mark Burik:
Okay.
563
00:41:53,004 --> 00:41:53,966
Mark Burik:
We'll get you off the hot seat.
564
00:41:53,978 --> 00:42:01,666
Mark Burik:
But if anybody else wants the partner profile betteratbeach.com/partnerprofile really cool thing to go through to just discover some things about yourself.
565
00:42:01,728 --> 00:42:06,214
Mark Burik:
There are some questions that like you saw here that they're going to take you a little bit of time to think about.
566
00:42:06,252 --> 00:42:20,350
Mark Burik:
And you're probably going to have to think about what partners pissed you off the most in your life, your career, and what exactly they said and when they said it during that time, just to figure it out so that you could at least warn the next partner of the baggage that you carry.
567
00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:22,920
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
568
00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:30,430
Mark Burik:
Well, all right, so coming as a middle, let's go back to the indoor to beach transition and maybe this is just current.
569
00:42:30,540 --> 00:42:59,270
Mark Burik:
But what do you think? What skill or technique has been the hardest for you to learn or master along? What's the most painful?
570
00:42:59,450 --> 00:43:19,318
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Okay, just initially when I first kind of started training in Florida with Raquel and Victor, footwork as a blocker was just so different because as a middle, it was just very much like turn and go like, you know, read where the sets going, turn, run, get there, close the block. So the whole concept of little adjustment steps and kind of staying facing the net the whole time and lining up with the block, I may remember working on that for months where I thought I did a good job, and then my coach was like, what was wrong? I was like, the lineup, I guess.
571
00:43:19,404 --> 00:43:20,220
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't know.
572
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:39,142
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Was the lineup not good? Was it not there? That concept, I think, was different and footwork was I remember we worked a lot on just like footwork along the network.
573
00:43:39,166 --> 00:43:44,970
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You have that time to kind of like front somebody and kind of jump and go as the middle.
574
00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:48,430
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You're just literally like, as soon as you land, you're just trying to close the block.
575
00:43:48,490 --> 00:43:52,100
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So that was definitely a skill that we worked on a lot.
576
00:43:52,850 --> 00:44:10,760
Sarah Schermerhorn:
If you could dive into the shuffle and adjustment steps, those people who are 66 B player, right? What do you mean by adjustment steps as a blocker? So I think for me, again, at least when I block it, then I always kind of have 1ft forward.
577
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:14,502
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Again, you're ready to pull.
578
00:44:14,696 --> 00:44:25,482
Mark Burik:
So if I'm moving to the side, then I have this foot forward a little bit and I'm kind of leading with this foot.
579
00:44:25,616 --> 00:44:25,950
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Okay.
580
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,590
Mark Burik:
So if you're on the left side of the court, your left foot would be forward.
581
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Mark Burik:
If you're on the right side of the court, your right foot would be, yeah, my left foot is always a little bit forward.
582
00:44:35,570 --> 00:44:40,354
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then if I decide I want to block, then I kind of close that other step in and go block.
583
00:44:40,402 --> 00:44:49,350
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Or if you're ready to pull, then you kind of drop that foot back, but you're kind of a little bit like weighted on that lead foot a little bit.
584
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:57,402
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Whereas I think indoor, it's so explosive and so quick, you don't have that time where you can take that little adjustment step.
585
00:44:57,596 --> 00:45:01,158
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But yeah, they're a little bit smaller and just kind of like going with that lead foot.
586
00:45:01,244 --> 00:45:03,078
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And that just takes me into pulling as well.
587
00:45:03,104 --> 00:45:04,482
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like in the middle, you don't ever pull.
588
00:45:04,556 --> 00:45:11,358
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So what is pulling? That's been fun? Yeah, that can be.
589
00:45:11,504 --> 00:45:14,094
Mark Burik:
Pulling is another level of adding to your game.
590
00:45:14,132 --> 00:45:21,080
Mark Burik:
I think for Alex Kleeman, when she added that to her game, then it was pretty much over.
591
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:33,682
Mark Burik:
She didn't have that her first, I guess, year and a half on tour, and then she just started peeling a lot more consistently and picking people up easily with her hands defense.
592
00:45:33,766 --> 00:45:54,898
Mark Burik:
I think hands defense is so important for women and it's interesting because I think that they're less likely as they're coming up through the game to want to use it because of the strict calling with carries, hard driven balls, women have less upper body strength.
593
00:45:54,934 --> 00:46:02,086
Mark Burik:
So you can have a B woman player and a B guys player and there can be a B level guy player who can mash a ball.
594
00:46:02,278 --> 00:46:04,858
Mark Burik:
Don't really see that out of like a B level woman.
595
00:46:04,894 --> 00:46:09,510
Mark Burik:
And so you don't get the practice at the lower levels of using your hands.
596
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,680
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Right? That's true for sure.
597
00:46:13,490 --> 00:46:33,030
Mark Burik:
I have a side question, but I know my answer to this, but how do you explain the difference between guy blocking and girl blocking when most women, I would say start in the stagger step, like you're saying, with 1ft back and all men start straight up, squared up to the net.
598
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:39,534
Mark Burik:
Why is there a difference there? Straight up and squared up?
599
00:46:39,692 --> 00:46:41,720
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, the guys hit a lot. The guy's net is a little bit higher.
600
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:44,298
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think shots have a little bit.
601
00:46:44,324 --> 00:46:47,230
Sarah Schermerhorn:
You've got a little bit more time to run things down, maybe the defenders.
602
00:46:47,290 --> 00:46:49,038
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't think the guys pull as much.
603
00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:50,802
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I don't think they pull as much.
604
00:46:50,996 --> 00:46:52,326
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I think I don't know.
605
00:46:52,388 --> 00:46:57,462
Sarah Schermerhorn:
There are a lot of guys that kind of go real deep and they just try to get up and go really high.
606
00:46:57,476 --> 00:46:58,914
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I mean, everyone's jumping so high.
607
00:46:58,952 --> 00:47:03,442
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think they just get up really just want to press and take away the hard driven ball.
608
00:47:03,526 --> 00:47:05,458
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think guys swing more than girls.
609
00:47:05,554 --> 00:47:06,186
Mark Burik:
I think so.
610
00:47:06,248 --> 00:47:07,758
Mark Burik:
Yeah, I would agree with that.
611
00:47:07,784 --> 00:47:18,680
Mark Burik:
And I think from a guy's standpoint, there are dudes that can still from 12ft off hammer and just like still take your defender's head off.
612
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:22,830
Mark Burik:
And there's just that less likely that guys are going to Peel.
613
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:26,046
Mark Burik:
Maybe guys should Peel more.
614
00:47:26,168 --> 00:47:29,278
Mark Burik:
Yeah, I don't know, but they definitely don't.
615
00:47:29,314 --> 00:47:32,698
Mark Burik:
And there's definitely a power difference between the two games.
616
00:47:32,854 --> 00:47:36,906
Mark Burik:
But it's always interesting to see women always start with the 1ft off the net.
617
00:47:37,028 --> 00:47:51,990
Mark Burik:
And does that mess with the lineups? Does that make the lineups better or does it just leave more access to peeling, which is more likely to happen in the women? It was intriguing to me to see the guys completely squared up, feet next to each other and women always in the like ready to run stance.
618
00:47:52,610 --> 00:47:53,578
Sarah Schermerhorn:
A little bit of stagger.
619
00:47:53,614 --> 00:47:54,200
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
620
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:57,186
Mark Burik:
Something to look at.
621
00:47:57,248 --> 00:48:00,018
Mark Burik:
And I really want to do that.
622
00:48:00,044 --> 00:48:06,810
Mark Burik:
Just that full study of let's take the next AVP tournament and just count the number of pills on the women's side and number of pills on the men's side.
623
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,878
Mark Burik:
That would be a good step.
624
00:48:07,964 --> 00:48:08,514
Mark Burik:
Please have that.
625
00:48:08,552 --> 00:48:09,140
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
626
00:48:09,590 --> 00:48:14,120
Sarah Schermerhorn:
What's stopping you? What's holding you back? Coming up one week.
627
00:48:16,910 --> 00:48:24,474
Mark Burik:
Okay, so the shuffle steps and the lineups for blocking were probably, you think, the hardest, most like pain in the butt thing for you to learn.
628
00:48:24,572 --> 00:48:36,362
Mark Burik:
Was there something that made it easy or was it just having the coach discuss? I think the whole first month or two that I was down there, I don't even think we hit the ball.
629
00:48:36,446 --> 00:48:42,226
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think it was a lot of very basic fundamental technique stuff.
630
00:48:42,288 --> 00:48:46,390
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So it was just really take our time and build from the bottom up.
631
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:50,590
Sarah Schermerhorn:
There's no point in going live if you don't have those fundamentals.
632
00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:58,582
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And they made it very clear that there's no point me teaching or talking about part D or C.
633
00:48:58,716 --> 00:49:04,440
Sarah Schermerhorn:
What if you're still here in A? So it was just very much a building process.
634
00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:11,078
Mark Burik:
But yes, setting was also a fun one to are you a handsetter or bumps header?
635
00:49:11,174 --> 00:49:23,926
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Currently bump setter. I break out the hands occasionally, but I think just the whole concept of spacing when you're studying and really lifting and using your legs was interesting.
636
00:49:23,988 --> 00:49:28,090
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But again, I kind of jumped into a group that was beach for a while.
637
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:32,090
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So for me, it was really nice to be able to go through, like, setting rotations.
638
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:43,918
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Again, both the girls I played with were defenders, so I didn't really have that on the blocking side, but definitely on the settings side just to go through setting rotations where I could watch them do something and then I got to go do it.
639
00:49:43,944 --> 00:49:46,090
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I just think visualization is huge.
640
00:49:46,140 --> 00:49:51,720
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I was like, okay, I could just see their movements and try to mimic it.
641
00:49:52,230 --> 00:50:02,458
Mark Burik:
What did you mean when you said spacing? If you're kind of describing this to a B or an A player, how do you space yourself as a setter?
642
00:50:02,484 --> 00:50:05,794
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Well, yeah. So spacing and squaring to the net, I guess, would be two.
643
00:50:05,892 --> 00:50:16,166
Sarah Schermerhorn:
They kind of go together, but I think a lot of times we tend to run to the ball and then try to contact it, but when we're setting, we want to be able to move through the ball.
644
00:50:16,238 --> 00:50:33,290
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So as your partner setting, you kind of want to move to a spot that's, I don't know, 2ft behind the ball so that you have space there to have your platform and then move through the ball because your partner reads so much from your body on how you're sitting.
645
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:48,300
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So it gives you room to actually square and be facing, and they can kind of read the ball off your arm, off your body where you're not turning you're very much just square with the ball in front of you, and then you just move through it.
646
00:50:48,990 --> 00:50:54,922
Mark Burik:
When you say square, for a lot of us, maybe this just comes from a personal point.
647
00:50:55,056 --> 00:51:00,662
Mark Burik:
Somebody told me square up, I think maybe for two years, and I had no idea what square actually meant.
648
00:51:00,686 --> 00:51:02,702
Mark Burik:
I heard it and I was like, kind of assumed.
649
00:51:02,786 --> 00:51:09,190
Mark Burik:
But you mean face with your chest, toes, knees, hips, where you want to set? Correct.
650
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:09,754
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Okay.
651
00:51:09,852 --> 00:51:27,420
Mark Burik:
And where do you teach your players? If you were coaching yourself or some other place, where do you teach them to square up to? Are you an antenna person? Are you a face to sideline or are you to where you want to set?
652
00:51:28,650 --> 00:51:33,302
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I would say I'm more to where I want to set. And again, it kind of depends on where you are in the court.
653
00:51:33,326 --> 00:51:35,160
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I would to where you're going to set.
654
00:51:35,490 --> 00:51:40,222
Sarah Schermerhorn:
The only time when you're not, I guess you are going to square where you're set.
655
00:51:40,236 --> 00:51:45,178
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But wait, if you've got a really tight ball, that was, again, another big thing that I worked on.
656
00:51:45,324 --> 00:52:02,546
Sarah Schermerhorn:
If you're maybe eight to 10ft off the net or seven to 10ft off the net in that range, you're going to be facing the net a little bit more with your shoulders to set an up and down ball versus when you go inside anywhere from tight on the net to kind of about 7ft.
657
00:52:02,678 --> 00:52:09,698
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I would say it's kind of when at least for me, when I turn completely and I'm facing the sideline of the court.
658
00:52:09,854 --> 00:52:31,150
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So that's a big ball that is passed kind of on the seven to eight foot line is a tricky ball you're like, should I go ahead and turn all the way, or am I still facing and I just have to have my arms higher so that the ball kind of goes straight up?
659
00:52:31,770 --> 00:52:33,490
Mark Burik:
No, I just heard a few different methods on like pre with optimum. She was always preaching.
660
00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:41,974
Mark Burik:
I hear her say it says peak pole set hold or peak pole lift hold, where she says square up to the antenna every time.
661
00:52:42,132 --> 00:52:48,082
Mark Burik:
To me, I think that's just a simplification where it gets you in the right area of lined up.
662
00:52:48,096 --> 00:52:52,740
Mark Burik:
And it's a nice key because it gives you something physical that you can make your body go to.
663
00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:59,398
Mark Burik:
More specifically, I ask my players, I say square up to exactly where you want to set.
664
00:52:59,544 --> 00:53:03,074
Mark Burik:
Often where you want to set is on the way to the antenna.
665
00:53:03,122 --> 00:53:04,874
Mark Burik:
So that works out consistently.
666
00:53:04,982 --> 00:53:06,000
Mark Burik:
It really does.
667
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:13,270
Mark Burik:
And having a physical object that you need to point your belly button to is a really nice key for people to have.
668
00:53:13,380 --> 00:53:15,362
Mark Burik:
But I still think of it as kind of NBA.
669
00:53:15,506 --> 00:53:21,350
If you're shooting in the NBA, you pull up, you face the basket, and you release.
670
00:53:21,470 --> 00:53:27,062
It's not like you're going to face sideways from the three point line and throw it off of your shoulder unless you're in trouble.
671
00:53:27,206 --> 00:53:27,550
Mark Burik:
Right.
672
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:33,022
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So in terms of accuracy, I think it's just where do you want the ball to go? That's where you line up.
673
00:53:33,036 --> 00:53:34,174
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But that's just our school.
674
00:53:34,332 --> 00:53:43,318
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I think the biggest thing to take away from that is wherever you line up, just set the ball there, because that's going to be the easiest thing for your partner to read a certain way.
675
00:53:43,344 --> 00:53:44,414
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then you're shoveling.
676
00:53:44,462 --> 00:53:46,738
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like you said, if you're at the three point line.
677
00:53:46,764 --> 00:54:01,034
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And you shoot a ball this way, one, you're not going to be very accurate, consistent, and no one's going to know what you're doing, which you want your partner you want your partner, in this case to know what you're doing because they're the one that's going to be hitting what's coming off your arms.
678
00:54:01,082 --> 00:54:04,070
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So when we're hitting, we can be a little more discreet.
679
00:54:04,130 --> 00:54:06,386
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But when we're setting, we want to be very readable.
680
00:54:06,518 --> 00:54:08,760
Mark Burik:
I think I agree.
681
00:54:09,210 --> 00:54:12,434
Mark Burik:
And people don't realize how they throw off their hitters.
682
00:54:12,482 --> 00:54:21,718
Mark Burik:
Timing by different speed of touches, different speed of leg lift, different speed of platform lift, where you contact the ball whether you contacted high or low.
683
00:54:21,864 --> 00:54:22,426
Mark Burik:
Right.
684
00:54:22,548 --> 00:54:38,414
Mark Burik:
And then the little fun stuff, when you get to that next level of how can I control time by syncing and getting low before the touch or accelerating the play and setting from a higher, faster point, that's when it gets you get into the weeds.
685
00:54:38,462 --> 00:54:42,780
Mark Burik:
And it's tough to explain that to a B player, but that's when it gets real fun.
686
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:43,726
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
687
00:54:43,848 --> 00:54:47,498
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And it's tough to train it, too, sometimes because it's so picky.
688
00:54:47,534 --> 00:54:51,082
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's like, well, that set again, looks perfect.
689
00:54:51,276 --> 00:54:54,022
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It hit the right spot, it went to the right height, whatever.
690
00:54:54,096 --> 00:54:59,914
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But if you contact it lower versus higher and it's going to the same spot, you're giving more time in there.
691
00:54:59,952 --> 00:55:03,670
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And that is going to be different for your hitter approaching the ball.
692
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:10,966
Sarah Schermerhorn:
If they're coming all the way from the end line and they're running towards the ball, if I can contact that ball lower, I can still kind of give my partner a low set.
693
00:55:11,028 --> 00:55:16,990
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It doesn't have to be super high, but I can give her time with a low set versus giving time with a super high ball.
694
00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:25,490
Mark Burik:
We talk about rhythm so much, people talk about rhythm that is so hard to define.
695
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:27,310
Mark Burik:
It is the rhythm of a set.
696
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:41,770
Mark Burik:
But if you imagine that however you look when you set, somebody should be able over time to predict at what point in your set the ball is going to come off and what speed it's going to come off of so that they can almost dance with you.
697
00:55:41,820 --> 00:55:45,250
Mark Burik:
Or we call it jumping into a double Dutch.
698
00:55:46,410 --> 00:56:12,854
Mark Burik:
You have to time it and the timing of the double Dutch person, the people who hold the ropes, it has to be consistent so that you know when you can jump in and for setters, if you jerk when you said if you like, make a fast movement or the next time you make a really slow movement, or sometimes you have super fast hands, or sometimes you have super slow hands, you're changing the speed of those ropes, and then whoever is trying to get into your double Dutch or trying to tangle with you, they don't know when they should get in that dance.
699
00:56:12,962 --> 00:56:14,482
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, for sure.
700
00:56:14,616 --> 00:56:15,960
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's a tricky thing.
701
00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:18,310
Mark Burik:
Tricky dance is tough.
702
00:56:19,230 --> 00:56:19,980
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
703
00:56:20,730 --> 00:56:21,850
Mark Burik:
Not for Chad.
704
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:24,180
Mark Burik:
Chad gave a big cough back here.
705
00:56:26,070 --> 00:56:27,386
Mark Burik:
We've been reeling.
706
00:56:27,578 --> 00:56:29,962
Mark Burik:
We're going to throw a few more reels coming out here.
707
00:56:29,976 --> 00:56:30,910
Mark Burik:
We're very excited.
708
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:34,990
Mark Burik:
You'll see, it's the next hot thing to hit Instagram.
709
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:37,390
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Okay, I'll be on the lookout.
710
00:56:40,930 --> 00:56:54,098
Mark Burik:
Sarah, do you have any warnings for people who are trying to get to the position you are in? Or like, if you looked at Sarah from last, ten years ago, anything that you would say, hey, just don't fall into this.
711
00:56:54,124 --> 00:56:59,754
Mark Burik:
Don't do this, or this is going to be rough for me.
712
00:56:59,792 --> 00:57:03,320
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Again, my whole process has been one step at a time.
713
00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:07,642
Sarah Schermerhorn:
One of my life is just balance and everything in moderation.
714
00:57:07,726 --> 00:57:12,260
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then I would say another thing is just like finding joy and happiness in the journey and the process.
715
00:57:12,650 --> 00:57:28,820
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I think if you're missing that part, no goal is really worth it if the day to day is so if you can't find the joy and the happiness in that, because I think when you win a medal, you win a tournament that lasts just for a little bit.
716
00:57:29,450 --> 00:57:38,970
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But everything that you built and you put into that, those are the defining moments that kind of made you that player that was capable, winning something, winning that title.
717
00:57:39,530 --> 00:57:43,978
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I think it's really important to be proud of the process and proud of the journey.
718
00:57:44,014 --> 00:57:53,802
Sarah Schermerhorn:
What you do, like day in and day out, the little stuff, because that's what makes you a champion at the end of the day when you're able to use those skills to showcase it and actually win something.
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00:57:53,936 --> 00:58:06,500
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So I think winning the actual medal or the trophy, it's great and it's fun, but ultimately it's the journey, it's the process, and you've got to learn from that day in and day out, and you've got to enjoy it.
720
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:17,714
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Little places where you go, things you say or activities that you do at the days or times when it becomes consistently unenjoyable.
721
00:58:17,822 --> 00:58:23,014
Sarah Schermerhorn:
For me, it's always a big, long trip to another country or a camping site. Like once I can get into nature and be completely alone and do literally days of writing, I usually come back from those refreshed,
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00:58:23,052 --> 00:58:44,640
Mark Burik:
but do you have anything where it wasn't going well for long enough and you took a breather or a method to say, how do I enjoy this again?
723
00:58:45,330 --> 00:58:51,254
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, I think for me, family is just huge. My sister just had she just had her second kid, two little nephews.
724
00:58:51,422 --> 00:58:52,030
Sarah Schermerhorn:
They're great.
725
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,150
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I've been with my husband.
726
00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:56,422
Sarah Schermerhorn:
We've been together for 15 or 16 years off.
727
00:58:56,556 --> 00:59:00,660
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But yeah, I just have a really great support system.
728
00:59:01,470 --> 00:59:02,822
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I work with my brother.
729
00:59:02,966 --> 00:59:08,400
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm really close to my parents, and they've kind of been a guy.
730
00:59:08,730 --> 00:59:17,990
Sarah Schermerhorn:
My dad kind of coaches in tennis, but he really understands the mental part of sports, whether or not he I mean, he's able to coach.
731
00:59:18,050 --> 00:59:19,462
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It doesn't really matter what the sport is.
732
00:59:19,476 --> 00:59:37,862
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I feel like he could be on the sideline and kind of coach anybody just because it's less about the scare, about your mindset and your composure on the court, how you handle yourself, how you deal with the loss, how you deal with the winner having that really solid sports system.
733
00:59:37,936 --> 00:59:47,080
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And I've had really awesome coaches that kind of mimic and have some of the same components that my dad was able to teach from a young age.
734
00:59:48,430 --> 00:59:53,222
Sarah Schermerhorn:
For me, family's huge just being able to spend some quality time with them.
735
00:59:53,296 --> 00:59:58,274
Mark Burik:
So it's like you just go and you're just like, you know what? I'm exhausted and you don't use them.
736
00:59:58,312 --> 01:00:02,750
Mark Burik:
But you say like, hey, family, I want to have a barbecue day or a Lake day or a boat day.
737
01:00:02,860 --> 01:00:10,180
Mark Burik:
Is it something like that or you just like a call and a text and you just know that you're back?
738
01:00:11,410 --> 01:00:14,874
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, sometimes it's just a phone call. I've had lots and lots of phone calls with my dad.
739
01:00:15,042 --> 01:00:23,140
Sarah Schermerhorn:
They turn into an hour long phone calls, but he just constantly surprises me with different sports analogies and stories that he's had from sales.
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01:00:23,470 --> 01:00:38,970
Sarah Schermerhorn:
There are other stories, but he's just got a whole wealth of knowledge I should be writing when he talks to me, I should just be writing this stuff down because he's told me so many cool stories in this chapter of my life that maybe he didn't even tell me when I was playing tennis and indoor volleyball.
741
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:45,098
Sarah Schermerhorn:
A lot of really cool stories and information and advice from him over the last couple of years that's been really cool.
742
01:00:45,124 --> 01:00:48,806
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And they're very supportive of my journey and what I'm doing.
743
01:00:48,868 --> 01:00:51,054
Sarah Schermerhorn:
So that's definitely helpful.
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01:00:51,222 --> 01:00:57,400
Sarah Schermerhorn:
If you don't have that, then I think it would definitely be easier to fall out when you go through rough times.
745
01:01:00,910 --> 01:01:03,174
Mark Burik:
Dealt a nice hand in the family Department.
746
01:01:03,222 --> 01:01:04,754
Mark Burik:
It sounds like you're playing all right.
747
01:01:04,912 --> 01:01:06,542
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yes, I was.
748
01:01:06,616 --> 01:01:07,094
Sarah Schermerhorn:
All right.
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01:01:07,192 --> 01:01:25,420
Mark Burik:
Well, hey, our last two questions before we let you run back to your volleyball life, are there any tools or equipment that are must haves for you at home, in the gym, on the court or on the road, like physical tools, like your favorite bracelet or.
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01:01:27,770 --> 01:01:28,278
Mark Burik:
I don't know.
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01:01:28,304 --> 01:01:37,710
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Actually, one of my favorite tools as of recently is my electric ball pump that is clutch, and I've become kind of a ball pressure.
752
01:01:38,510 --> 01:01:40,230
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Oh, you're one of the snobs.
753
01:01:41,570 --> 01:01:42,810
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I turned into one.
754
01:01:42,860 --> 01:01:43,218
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I know.
755
01:01:43,244 --> 01:01:44,370
Sarah Schermerhorn:
It's terrible.
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01:01:45,530 --> 01:02:01,630
Sarah Schermerhorn:
3.8 California, Florida Sometimes if you have a really hot day and then like a cool day and you get a big adjustment, but now I'm a ballsm to a certain extent.
757
01:02:01,690 --> 01:02:03,618
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I have my electric ball pump to thank for that.
758
01:02:03,704 --> 01:02:12,298
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But it is nice when you're traveling and you deflate your ball to travel, and then you get there and Crimson over there pumping her ball up, and I'm like, just press the button in mine.
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01:02:12,394 --> 01:02:13,280
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Fuck it.
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01:02:14,490 --> 01:02:15,466
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'd lend it to her.
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01:02:15,528 --> 01:02:17,040
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But that's a big one for me.
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01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:22,450
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Tripod is big, especially with an online coach band.
763
01:02:23,070 --> 01:02:24,950
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Just your typical warm up band.
764
01:02:25,130 --> 01:02:37,754
Mark Burik:
Do you use the strings? You use the hip bands? Do you have heavy bands like the big thick power bands or just no skinny arm band and one circle band? Yeah, one circle band and one just like Saraband.
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01:02:37,862 --> 01:02:38,520
Mark Burik:
Okay.
766
01:02:39,570 --> 01:02:44,942
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I have two cups that I take with me for cupping.
767
01:02:45,086 --> 01:02:45,394
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
768
01:02:45,432 --> 01:02:46,034
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Silicone.
769
01:02:46,082 --> 01:02:46,982
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Silicone cups.
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01:02:47,066 --> 01:02:47,350
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah.
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01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,590
Mark Burik:
I'm trying to think that's it and then ibuprofen.
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01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:59,182
Sarah Schermerhorn:
No, I'm not a big ibuprofen person, but it's in there just in case.
773
01:02:59,316 --> 01:03:00,730
Mark Burik:
Yeah, I agree.
774
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:08,350
Mark Burik:
I'm currently living with two physical therapists, and we have had lots of inflammation discussions and talks.
775
01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:14,100
Mark Burik:
Those are for when you need to perform or you need to get out of pain.
776
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:21,518
Mark Burik:
They'll break down things over time and they also inhibit the cellular process of inflammation.
777
01:03:21,554 --> 01:03:26,522
Mark Burik:
But your body needs acute inflammation for injury repair.
778
01:03:26,606 --> 01:03:29,666
Mark Burik:
But if you're at the point where it's like, hey, this is the Championship.
779
01:03:29,738 --> 01:03:33,490
Mark Burik:
I need to be here right now and I don't need to feel pain to hold me back.
780
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,222
Mark Burik:
I think that's a good time for every Prophet.
781
01:03:35,246 --> 01:03:41,400
Mark Burik:
But if you're like me and you were popping them like M&Ms in College and indoor pro, don't do that to yourself.
782
01:03:45,070 --> 01:03:48,530
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I would say I used to take like under five or ten.
783
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,910
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm like under ten a year.
784
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:50,740
Mark Burik:
Oh, nice.
785
01:03:52,210 --> 01:04:00,258
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I've maybe taken a few more this year, but I feel a little bit of pain.
786
01:04:00,284 --> 01:04:01,050
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I'm going to pop something.
787
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:06,006
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I kind of like my body to kind of feel it out, to kind of understand where my baseline is.
788
01:04:06,068 --> 01:04:09,654
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I feel like if you just keep taking ibuprofen all the time, you lose that.
789
01:04:09,812 --> 01:04:10,350
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
790
01:04:10,460 --> 01:04:13,630
Mark Burik:
And secretly it just destroys the inside of your stomach.
791
01:04:13,690 --> 01:04:13,842
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
792
01:04:13,856 --> 01:04:15,080
Mark Burik:
It's not good for you.
793
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:23,938
Mark Burik:
I was on eight a day for a while, 1600 prescription strength, self prescribed.
794
01:04:23,974 --> 01:04:26,900
Mark Burik:
I was like, maybe something is wrong about this.
795
01:04:27,950 --> 01:04:28,278
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
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01:04:28,304 --> 01:04:29,850
Sarah Schermerhorn:
That's not a good place to be.
797
01:04:30,020 --> 01:04:31,278
Sarah Schermerhorn:
A good place to be.
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01:04:31,424 --> 01:04:43,040
Mark Burik:
And lastly, are there any projects outside of volleyball that you're working on right now that you want people to know about or you got kind of in the works?
799
01:04:47,190 --> 01:05:01,330
Sarah Schermerhorn:
No, not really. My brother in law and my husband are all kind of they're building houses in North Carolina, and I helped with that a little bit on the side, some remote stuff, and my dad's got beach bub going on and I'm just kind of focused on traveling.
800
01:05:02,010 --> 01:05:04,260
Sarah Schermerhorn:
We might be gone for like a month and a half.
801
01:05:04,830 --> 01:05:06,226
Mark Burik:
Busy year for you.
802
01:05:06,408 --> 01:05:07,702
Mark Burik:
Yeah, it's awesome.
803
01:05:07,836 --> 01:05:15,110
Sarah Schermerhorn:
And then just folks get aunt that's the other all my sister's kids, my friend's kids and just anti scrub.
804
01:05:15,170 --> 01:05:15,502
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
805
01:05:15,576 --> 01:05:20,218
Mark Burik:
And they're going to look at like a superhero anyway, which is awesome.
806
01:05:20,364 --> 01:05:21,034
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
807
01:05:21,192 --> 01:05:22,114
Mark Burik:
That's always cool.
808
01:05:22,152 --> 01:05:22,498
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
809
01:05:22,584 --> 01:05:25,910
Mark Burik:
My two nieces, they just started playing volleyball.
810
01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:26,938
Mark Burik:
Oh, that's so fun.
811
01:05:26,964 --> 01:05:27,838
Mark Burik:
It's super fun.
812
01:05:27,924 --> 01:05:43,200
Mark Burik:
And they found out that a few of their coaches know who our company is and who I am and they get like a little extra credit there, but it's so fun to see them picking it up and to be able to play with them.
813
01:05:43,650 --> 01:05:52,522
Mark Burik:
Yeah, man, it's cool seeing little kids pick up the sport and just be addicted to it right off the bat where they're just running around the house just bumping to themselves.
814
01:05:52,716 --> 01:05:55,860
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Yeah, love it knocking things over, but whatever.
815
01:05:56,910 --> 01:05:58,680
Mark Burik:
This is why we can't have nice things.
816
01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:00,850
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Taylor Swift.
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01:06:02,130 --> 01:06:03,994
Mark Burik:
Well, Sarah, thank you so much.
818
01:06:04,092 --> 01:06:05,258
Mark Burik:
I know we went a little overtime.
819
01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:10,390
Mark Burik:
I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge and help out a bunch of players and do this episode.
820
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:11,890
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Thanks for having me.
821
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:17,626
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I hope I was able to shed a little light on little tidbits of my volleyball life with everybody.
822
01:06:17,808 --> 01:06:25,018
Mark Burik:
Oh, man, you gave so many good tips for anybody who can listen and just like pick it up right there.
823
01:06:25,104 --> 01:06:32,174
Mark Burik:
We keep talking to our players and they're like, oh, you know, I listen to this episode on the way to practice on the way to lead that and I applied it immediately.
824
01:06:32,282 --> 01:06:43,870
Mark Burik:
So just from your setting tips and at least you're like blockadjustment and communication, somebody's going to listen to this and they're going to apply it immediately and they're going to be better for it and they're going to be happy that we got you on.
825
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,226
Mark Burik:
So thank you so much.
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01:06:45,288 --> 01:06:45,898
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Awesome for sure.
827
01:06:45,924 --> 01:06:50,746
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Well, thanks, Mark, for having this podcast and spreading your knowledge with everybody.
828
01:06:50,808 --> 01:06:51,850
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Your videos are great.
829
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,658
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Your videos pop up all the time and I think they're awesome.
830
01:06:54,744 --> 01:06:59,762
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Like I said, my husband would watch them when he was getting into when he first started playing.
831
01:06:59,906 --> 01:07:01,462
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I would tell him things.
832
01:07:01,656 --> 01:07:03,058
Sarah Schermerhorn:
He doesn't always want to hear them for me.
833
01:07:03,084 --> 01:07:11,640
Sarah Schermerhorn:
But then you would say it on your reel and I just like here's Mark said it and then he goes and does it.
834
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:13,198
Sarah Schermerhorn:
I appreciate it.
835
01:07:13,224 --> 01:07:13,594
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Too.
836
01:07:13,692 --> 01:07:16,390
Mark Burik:
Happy to subversively coach your husband for you.
837
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,460
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Thank you.
838
01:07:19,170 --> 01:07:19,920
Mark Burik:
Awesome.
839
01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:27,890
Mark Burik:
Stay around right after we get off and I just got something for you for a minute but thanks for coming on and we'll see you on the sand.
840
01:07:27,950 --> 01:07:28,690
Sarah Schermerhorn:
Appreciate it.
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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:29,474
Mark Burik:
Bye.
