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Evan Cory:
Those first four years are where a lot of the foundations are set.
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Evan Cory:
And if you can set the expectation high for all those underclassmen below you, then it's just the expectation from there on out.
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Evan Cory:
So now going back, it's pretty pretty similar, you know what I mean? Because the expectations is the same and it doesn't really change because he holds them accountable.
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Evan Cory:
And once you have that system in place, it's just all good from there.
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Mark Burik:
What's up, everybody? And welcome to the Better At Beach Volleyball Podcast.
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My name is Mark Burik, and today we have a very special guest.
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He's coached at a few of our camps.
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He is the hot new kid on the AVP, relative unknown.
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And in a year in his first auto, main draw, going on to the norseica tour, actually tonight, leaving for Mexico the night of this interview.
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And we're fired up to have them and to learn from him and see what we can pull from his knowledge bank and how he thinks about the game.
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But huge round of applause.
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Mark Burik:
Evan? Cory, what's going on, buddy?
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Evan Cory:
How are you?
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Mark Burik:
I'm good. Life is good. Just came off a camp a couple of weeks ago.
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Mark Burik:
Kind of settling into that
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Evan Cory:
in Hawaii right now.
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Mark Burik:
Right. I just got back from Hawaii.
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Okay.
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So back to Cali.
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My brother's starting a little coffee company.
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Not so little, actually pretty big.
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And I was out there to help him and actually do a little like small business consulting, which I'm pretty fired up about.
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And we made some big steps while we were out there, and now I'm back.
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Mark Burik:
Sweet hanging out.
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Mark Burik:
But you've been busy.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
You just got through an Orthopedic qualifier, and now you are on your way to Mexico tonight.
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Mark Burik:
So let's talk quickly about what the norseica qualifier was like and maybe we could riff on Norseko, go to the beginning, the whole intro where you started playing and everything.
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Mark Burik:
So I love to hear about the norseica event first.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
I mean, so far it's been smooth.
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Evan Cory:
I'm hoping it continues to be that way.
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Evan Cory:
But the qualifier, we only have four teams and they take top two, which I didn't know.
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Evan Cory:
So we won our first game.
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Evan Cory:
And then Travis and Timmy, we played them in the second game, and they were like just kind of confused or not confused.
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Evan Cory:
But they were like, I was confused more, I guess they're like, you want to play? And I was like, why wouldn't we play? Like, it's the last round of the qualifier.
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Evan Cory:
I want to play for first play.
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Evan Cory:
But they're like, yeah, I mean, usually people rock paper scissors for first because usually both teams get in.
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Evan Cory:
I was like, well, I'm going to guarantee that I get in.
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Evan Cory:
I don't want to put this up to chance.
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Evan Cory:
So smooth.
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Evan Cory:
Felt really good.
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Evan Cory:
Bill and I just keep connecting on a better note every single day.
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Evan Cory:
So just super excited to keep taking that into competition.
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Evan Cory:
You do a lot of stuff in practice and you work on stuff here and there, but it's been good for us.
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Evan Cory:
We had the qualifier, which was like, I think a week before.
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Evan Cory:
No, it was the Wednesday before Panama City.
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Mark Burik:
Before we get into that, how did you sign up for a qualifier? How does the next 21, 23 year old Evan Cory sign up to go and travel internationally for USA?
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Evan Cory:
Yeah. So that was the difficult part for me because I'm not in the not in the USA system yet.
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Mark Burik:
Okay.
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Evan Cory:
Like, not in the email system or email chain or anything.
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Evan Cory:
Thankfully for me, Bill already is.
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Evan Cory:
And then my girlfriend Savvy Simone also is.
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Evan Cory:
And so they get all the emails, and so I'm just waiting, like, all right, hey, whenever there's an email sent to you, just let me know, forward it to me, and that'll help me out.
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Evan Cory:
But from what I've kind of noticed and seen is the whole registration system for FIVBs and Norseica's.
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Evan Cory:
The USA just has one link that connects to all of them.
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Evan Cory:
So you can sign up for every single Fib, like, on one page.
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Evan Cory:
And you can just do it in one day pretty much, and just go down the list and keep signing up and keep signing up for all of them.
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Evan Cory:
And then I think as the norseica’s pop up, that's when those registration link become available.
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Evan Cory:
So I don't know.
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Mark Burik:
It's just weird to me because I feel like you got to check in on a regular basis, right?
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Mark Burik:
Yeah. You're never going to know when an event is going to pop up.
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Mark Burik:
And Norseica, if everybody is following Taylor Crab, he just posted a rager against Norseica, something that we've all known for two decades that Norseica is poorly run, poor organizational skills.
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Mark Burik:
And so they will, like you said, they'll just pop up with a tournament or they'll have 15 tournaments on their schedule and eight of them will get canceled by the end of the summer.
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Mark Burik:
So you have to look at those links from USA Volleyball, and you have to be ready to sign up on a whim, and then you show up on when was this qualifier? Was it Wednesday or a Tuesday? It was a Wednesday.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
So we played Wednesday, and it's just like a Wednesday morning in Manhattan Beach.
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Evan Cory:
And I think that's kind of the key for the international part is as much as people want to be able to do stuff from a different area, which, like I was doing in New Orleans, you know what I mean? And I felt like I sustained a good amount of success.
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Evan Cory:
But there's, like a certain part of a certain period of time where you're like, you know what, if I want to go play international, you have to be here.
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Evan Cory:
You have to be in California.
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Evan Cory:
And it's super unfortunate from, like, I mean, there's certain circumstances, I think like Terry and Kristen had the fortunate circumstance of being able to go and get into a qualifier with zero points.
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Evan Cory:
But on the men's side of things, that's not a reality.
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Evan Cory:
There's too many men's teams that are just going and signing up.
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Evan Cory:
And there's teams with Travis and Timmy.
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Evan Cory:
Travis Murder and Timmy Brewster both have solid points.
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Evan Cory:
And there's like futures events, which is like the lowest tier FIVB, and they can't get in with three solid finishes.
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Evan Cory:
So in order to be able to do that, you have to be here and you have to be trying to do these more segments because that's how you got to get points and try and get into the game and try and get Skins in the game.
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Evan Cory:
I kind of noticed that in the off season and was just like, screw it, let's go for it.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
I think it's still one of those weird truths.
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Mark Burik:
I'm not going to say competitive, but being involved in the ability to go and compete internationally for the USA, many people have proven that you can get the AVP without being in California.
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Mark Burik:
Is it easier from a training standpoint and competitors and the pool of partners that you can say, like somebody tweeted their ankles.
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Mark Burik:
So I'm going to practice with this person today, and then you start seeing who you can play with just from the international standpoint of saying, oh, yeah, there's a qualifier next week and it's on a Wednesday, and there might be a tournament that Saturday.
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Mark Burik:
So now you've got two round trip flights or a multiple city.
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Evan Cory:
The case was because Wednesday was the Norseica qualifier and then Panama City was Friday, Saturday.
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Evan Cory:
And so we played Wednesday.
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Evan Cory:
And then I ended up flying out on Wednesday night and going.
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Evan Cory:
So, I mean, if it was Thursday, it was originally on Thursday, and they switched it to Wednesday because everybody who was playing pretty much like, hey, we're playing this Panama City qualifier.
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Evan Cory:
We need to be there.
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Evan Cory:
And so can you switch the qualifier to Wednesday? So they thankfully did that because since we're already qualified for us and you know what? We're not going to go to Panama City.
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Evan Cory:
Panama City was more for just like a practice for us.
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Evan Cory:
You know what I mean? Kind of dry run of competition and feeling each other out.
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Evan Cory:
And we're like, well, we're going to just do the Norseica then if that's the case, and just play on Thursday.
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Evan Cory:
So thankfully they ended up moving that.
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Evan Cory:
But it wouldn't have been possible if I didn't live out here because I would have to go from New Orleans and then I would have had to change my trip to LA and then LA back.
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Evan Cory:
And so it would have just been way too much.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
Not easy if you're not here for the trials, for the tryouts and involved in in the face with USA volleyball.
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Mark Burik:
I did that.
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Mark Burik:
I guess this is seven years ago now.
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Mark Burik:
And I just realized, oh, my goodness, all of the Norseica playoffs, where all the USA teams compete against each other to see who goes to Continental tour, and that usually will help you build some low World tour points.
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Mark Burik:
And hopefully that gets you your way to the World Tour.
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Mark Burik:
You don't even know that those exist.
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Mark Burik:
When you live in New Orleans, when you live in New York, you're just like, what is there? We have to use like, a ball that they sell at Toys R US to compete in this to compete in this thing where there are no fans, there are four referees, and everybody's just battling against each other.
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Mark Burik:
It's so funny that the continental qualifier, something that's so important for the career of an international player, a future international player is a fanless event.
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Mark Burik:
It's not that they're not allowed, but it's literally four refs, just half of the AVP and just battling.
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Mark Burik:
And it feels like another practice day.
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Mark Burik:
It really does.
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Mark Burik:
But it's important for you to be able to get that international experience.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
Thankfully, they've increased Norseica points, like, Continental Tour points.
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Evan Cory:
So now if you win, it's like 80% of the future.
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Evan Cory:
So it's actually kind of worth it to go and try and get these points because it's not like, oh, you're just getting pennies on the dime here.
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Evan Cory:
It's actually decent amount and kind of worth it now.
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Mark Burik:
It used to be that like, when I started, I think it was seven years ago.
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Mark Burik:
We qualified for two different sections.
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Mark Burik:
And when we're going, one qualifier would qualify you for two to three events.
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Mark Burik:
And like I said, you'd usually go to one because two of them might be canceled by Norseica.
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Mark Burik:
So you're just, like hoping that you qualify for the right events where all of them don't get canceled.
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Mark Burik:
And that did literally happen.
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Mark Burik:
But at that time, the Norseica points through Norseica's and a couple of world tours, I was able to get to the top 100 rankings in FIVB just through continental events, which is kind of insane if you think about it now, because now you have all of those tiers and norseica pretty low, and we're not going to get into all of the point structures and everything today because the tracking is difficult enough.
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Mark Burik:
You can't even explain it to a fan.
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Mark Burik:
I'm like, you got to, I don't know, just show up and win a lot, and then you can get into stuff if that's all you do if you just win.
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Evan Cory:
My best explanation is kind of what me and Logan thought she was like, all right, hey, look, we won a lot, and we want all these really difficult events now.
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Evan Cory:
We're in a good spot.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
In order to make it, that's what you have to do.
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Mark Burik:
Exactly.
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Mark Burik:
Cool.
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Mark Burik:
All right, well, good little life update, but let's run through some of the questions so people can get to know you.
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Mark Burik:
All right.
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Mark Burik:
So Evan, just want to know when and why did you start playing beach volleyball?
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Evan Cory:
Yeah. So I started playing when I was about 14 years old.
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Evan Cory:
I got into it kind of just by chance.
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Evan Cory:
It was more like Coconut Beach, which you've been to.
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Evan Cory:
So anybody who doesn't know Coconut Beach out in New Orleans, which is where I'm from and just recently moved from out to California, I just played there, but I didn't play to start.
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Evan Cory:
I just went and watched.
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Evan Cory:
They have, like, these massive I mean, you saw the conflict is massive. Like 20 something courts
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Mark Burik:
like a football field.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
And in these 20 something courts, they run leagues every night.
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Evan Cory:
Like these beer leagues where people just go out, have fun with their friends.
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Evan Cory:
And so my mom and my dad did it, but mostly my mom would take me out on Thursdays or Friday nights.
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Evan Cory:
I can't remember exactly which night that she played, but she'd go out and play with her friends on the night.
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Evan Cory:
And just being a competitor.
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Evan Cory:
I always played sports growing up and stuff.
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Evan Cory:
I mean, you watch a sport and you just want to play.
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Evan Cory:
It's so hard to just be a spectator sometimes, especially as a kid.
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As a kid, you want to go out.
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You got that so much energy, you just want to go play.
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Mark Burik:
I get made fun of all the time when people are like, hey, man, do you watch basketball? Do you watch baseball? I play sports.
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Mark Burik:
I don't watch them.
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I know no stats about any sports, any teams.
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But if you throw me a ball, let's go play.
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Mark Burik:
But I'm not going to sit in my living room ever and sit down and watch something when I could be out playing it.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
So I'm like dying to play.
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Evan Cory:
Just always dying to play whenever she brings me out and they have their team set or whatever, and she's never let me play.
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Evan Cory:
They would never let me play.
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I'm just oh, wow.
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Evan Cory:
And so a couple of weeks into the season or whatever, one of their seasons, they need a sub, and they can't find a sub for that night, no matter who they call their friends and whatever.
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Evan Cory:
And so my mom on the way, she's like, hey, we don't have anybody to play.
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Evan Cory:
You can sub with us tonight.
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Evan Cory:
And I was like, yes, finally and super excited.
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Evan Cory:
And I mean, we're down on net 14 and we're down in the boonies.
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Evan Cory:
I think people are more worried about the beer specials than they are the score of the game.
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Evan Cory:
But I get into the game and they were like, wait, he's actually like, pretty good compared to us, just naturally.
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Evan Cory:
And so I kind of became a regular part of their team, and we worked our way up from net 14 to net seven or eight eventually throughout each season, which was kind of cool.
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Evan Cory:
And then the owner of the complex at the time Bruce White was pretty big on trying to develop boys juniors.
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Evan Cory:
And anytime he saw a juniors boy out there was just like, hey, we need you out here.
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Evan Cory:
He wants to help.
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Evan Cory:
So he'd like, coach us for free.
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Evan Cory:
And just like, before the leagues would start, would just bring you out and run you through these drills and just absolutely just demolish any kind of self confidence you had about your volleyball game.
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Evan Cory:
But it made you tough, and it made me a lot better.
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Evan Cory:
There's about eight of us out there, and we got so much better through that.
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And then through that, just kind of you keep getting picked up, people start seeing you.
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And I would go out.
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My mom loves to tell the story, like six nights a week.
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So all five nights that there were leaks.
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And then the Saturday, they run a tournament out of the complex.
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She dropped me off at like 5:00-6:00 P.m.
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On a weeknight and then just picked me up at 11:00, and I just go out and play for like five or 6 hours.
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I'd pepper with whoever I could.
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I'd play pickup games with whoever I could.
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Mark Burik:
You were playing before you were being coached, unlike, I think, like a lot of juniors.
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Mark Burik:
Okay.
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Mark Burik:
So you picked it up at the time when most other players are joining a team.
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You were just picking it up.
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Kind of like a lot of grown ups pick it up where they're just in their mid 20s.
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What's this beer League.
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Mark Burik:
But you were doing that before you even joined a team.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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And just kind of learned through that.
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And the more you play out there, the more people like, oh, this kid is getting kind of good.
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And so you just keep getting picked up by better and better teams.
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Evan Cory:
And within two years, I was already up to court one, which is the top court, thankfully.
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Mark Burik:
Do you play any high school volleyball during that?
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Evan Cory:
There's no high school volleyball in Louisiana.
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Mark Burik:
Zero men's high school volleyball. But there is for women,
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Evan Cory:
Yes. And I mean, I went to an all boys school, so I didn't even have the opportunity to try and protest that.
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Evan Cory:
You know what I mean? Right? I could try and play on the women's team or something like that, but I started playing team wise, I guess when I was 16, I joined the indoor club by you boys, but there was no try outs or anything.
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Evan Cory:
So basically, we had eight kids from all across Louisiana, and you showed up to the gym and you were on the team.
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And so that was our team.
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But fortunately, we had a really good coach.
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One of the kids on our team, his mom was a multiple time state champion coach for the girls side in high school, and she just taught us to be really disciplined.
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And, I mean, we didn't really have a lot of height or anything, but we had a lot of heart.
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And so we got really good at passing and we got really good at defense and really good at serving to zones.
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And as most people know, at a higher level, that's going to win you a lot of volleyball games.
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Evan Cory:
And so our whole model around things was like, we had really good passers, and then our setter was pretty good because his mom was the coach, and so he'd been playing volleyball for a long time, and our whole thing was like, just get the ball up and set.
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Evan Cory:
Evan.
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She took stats my 18th year, and I hit 70% of all possible balls.
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Oh, man.
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Which is absurd for indoor.
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I mean, like, that's amazing.
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Evan Cory:
Maybe you're getting, like, if you're like the guy on any other team, like 20% to 25% maybe.
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Evan Cory:
But no, 70% of the possible balls is what I was contacting on the third contact.
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Mark Burik:
And you played in College, right?
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Evan Cory:
I did. I went and played indoor at Lincoln Memorial.
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Mark Burik:
Did they recruit you? Lincoln Memorial, did they recruit you out of that club system? Or did you have to send a tape to the coach or what happened there?
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Evan Cory:
So I joined there's, like a recruiting website called NSCA. And I joined that for the whole two years.
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Evan Cory:
I was playing from 16 to 18.
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Mark Burik:
I was on there, and I wasn't really getting much interest in or anything.
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Mark Burik:
He's from Louisiana.
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No one's going to even pay attention.
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Yeah, I'm sure he's the best in Louisiana.
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He would automatically try to cut you down.
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I have emails where coaches were like, no, thanks.
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You're from Louisiana.
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You don't have volleyball? I was like, what? Don't even look at the table.
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Don't even come watch me play.
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Give me the shot.
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Give me a chance.
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So at that point, I'd almost just given up.
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I have D three and Nai stuff.
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But I was like, I know I can play at the best level, and if I'm not playing at the best level, I'm not going to do it because I know I can compete with all these people.
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And so I was like, but all or nothing.
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And I was like, you know what? If you aren't going to take a chance on me, I'm just not going to do it.
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I'm going to go.
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Evan Cory:
I mean, I was good in school, and so I was like, I'm going to go be really smart and go to a really high academic school and just get a normal career and play beach volleyball on the side of that.
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Evan Cory:
But thankfully, going into my senior year, I was not even going to play club, actually.
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Evan Cory:
So my 18s.
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And I was like, I'm just not going to do it.
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But my stepdad before he was even my stepdad, he was just dating my mom.
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And he was like, no, I think you should.
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And so he literally gave up his entire salary because I didn't want to make my mom or my dad pay anything because I mean we weren't well off financially for that stuff.
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And so I was like, I don't want to waste your money if I'm not going to go do this in College.
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Evan Cory:
Like this is the whole reason we've been doing it.
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Evan Cory:
And he's just like, I'll coach the team and he played professionally in Puerto Rico indoor and so he knows the game pretty well and so he gave up his entire salary for the club season so I could play and try and go get a scholarship.
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Evan Cory:
He's like, you need to go, you need to go do this.
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You're going to really, really regret this later in life.
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If you don't at least go try for a year, you need to try it for a year.
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If you don't like it, fine, whatever.
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You can quit and come back home after a year.
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But if you don't go and try, that's just like a waste of your potential because you're too good for that.
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Evan Cory:
And so eventually Lincoln Memorial doesn't even call me until March of my senior year.
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Evan Cory:
First phone call, first contact because of the first year of the program was my first year.
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So I just gotten hired and he was like scrambling in March.
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Evan Cory:
Like, dude, I mean it's really late in the recruiting cycle.
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I don't know who to pick up or anything.
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There's not going to be much left for me.
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But he called me up and I was like, yeah, I'd be interested.
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So I end up going on a visit in April right after I win Fudds.
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Evan Cory:
I win Fudds on a Sunday and then drive back home, get on a plane Monday morning like 05:00 a.m.
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Evan Cory:
Some like 4 hours, 3 hours of sleep and get on a plane, go visit the school with no team.
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The coach doesn't even office yet.
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And he's just telling me on this pipe dream of what it could be.
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Evan Cory:
And I committed basically because he's like, yeah, I really feel like we could build this around you.
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I want to build something special here.
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And to me it was really special because it was still in the Southeast and there's just like that tie to me that will always be to the Southeast.
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It's like, you know what, I can build something bigger in the Southeast for volleyball and that's really cool to me.
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Evan Cory:
And over the four years, that's kind of what happened.
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Evan Cory:
This year was the first year, which is six years into the program.
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Evan Cory:
We beat three top 15 programs ranked in the top 15 for the first time and for six years in the program, that just doesn't happen in men's volleyball.
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Evan Cory:
It's really difficult to try and break into that top upper echelon.
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Evan Cory:
And we had a really good coach of John Cash.
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I don't know, he just knows how to build a program.
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He's just a great leader, knows how to inspire people to do great things.
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Evan Cory:
And he's continuing to just build a great program there.
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Evan Cory:
And it feels good to have been a big part of that because those first four years are where a lot of the foundations are set.
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Evan Cory:
And if you can set the expectation high for all those underclassmen below you, then it's just the expectation from there on out.
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Evan Cory:
So now going back, it's pretty similar, you know what I mean? Because the expectations are the same and it doesn't really change because he holds them accountable.
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Evan Cory:
And once you have that system in place, it's just all good from there.
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Mark Burik:
So in all of that, we mentioned your mom who finally let you play.
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Mark Burik:
We mentioned Bruce White, who had the complex and then pushed you as a kid, had your stepdad who didn't let you quit the sport, essentially.
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Mark Burik:
And then you had a great College coach, and now I imagine you've had a few mentors since then.
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Mark Burik:
So who do you think was the most influential person there in your game of your career? What was the key person that you think that you could attribute at all, like turning forward to or accelerating you?
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Evan Cory:
Yeah. So I think all of those people have had tremendous influence in my life that were just mentioned, but I think the turning point was really so I graduated during COVID during 2020 world shutdown.
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Evan Cory:
So my professional career kind of started when there was no tournaments, so I was thankful enough.
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Evan Cory:
I got back home in May and I just started working with Joey Keener, who's been my coach for the past two years.
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Evan Cory:
And I mean, he's not out here now or anything, but I still talk to him.
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Evan Cory:
He still watches all my practice videos.
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We still talk about adjustments and stuff that he sees.
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Evan Cory:
But he literally day in and day out from COVID May of 2020 until I just left in March of 2022, literally five days a week if I was in town, coached me for 2 hours for free.
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Mark Burik:
For free.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
So this is just somebody who believes in you and loves volleyball.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Truly, truly loves volleyball, loves seeing the development of people.
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Evan Cory:
And I played against him.
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Evan Cory:
He played Open against me in Louisiana when I was younger, and my first Open win actually ever was against him in the finals.
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Evan Cory:
So it's kind of like a cool full circle moment.
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Evan Cory:
But he just truly wants to make our area in our region known for volleyball, and he kind of brings this mentality of kind of having that chip on your shoulder.
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Evan Cory:
A lot of the people from our area kind of have that same mentality because he kind of does coach anybody that's good from our area on the men's side is from him.
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Evan Cory:
So, I mean, we have somebody like Ian Biko who just goes and beats Eric and Avery in Panama City, which is a hell of a win for them.
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Evan Cory:
And I mean, that is credited probably a lot to Joey, because this guy just gives so much for us to try and be successful.
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Evan Cory:
And I mean, we thankfully, they're able to give back to him a little bit by helping him coach his juniors club.
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Evan Cory:
But I mean, he just gave so much and poured so much energy, not only knowledge wise, but also emotionally and trying to help develop people so I can't say enough good things about him.
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Mark Burik:
What do you think the best thing he gave you? Was it a mindset? Was it a skill set, a way of thinking about the game, a strategy? What things did he implement into your game that you think is the most important that you like to hold onto?
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Evan Cory:
Yeah. So I think a lot of people probably mostly look at coaches for their ability to teach a certain skill or teach a certain way of a system or something.
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Evan Cory:
But one thing that he teaches a lot is one is creativity.
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Evan Cory:
So he's always going to be looking for new ideas.
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Evan Cory:
We're always playing around with new, different things.
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Evan Cory:
He'll go and watch a video.
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Evan Cory:
Like he just watches every FIVB match and he tries to find similarities, and he's like, all right, I've seen a lot of these similarities and these top players.
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Evan Cory:
Let's go and try this out and see how we like it in our system and see if it works.
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Evan Cory:
So one, his creativity and then two, I would say is like his social intelligence, which kind of sounds weird.
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Evan Cory:
But I think in beach volleyball, that is like extremely, extremely important because everything for beach volleyball coach, it is because we have so well, one, he knows how to get to every single player, so he's able to try and pull out the best of your abilities.
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Evan Cory:
He really makes he makes your personality shine, which is huge.
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Evan Cory:
You know what I mean? You can feel like you can be yourself.
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And I feel like when you hear your most yourself on your court, that's when you play your best because you're just playing freely, you're not thinking about anybody else, you're not thinking about anything.
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Evan Cory:
So he unlocks that potential of just letting you express yourself on the court and then also the part of knowing how to talk to your partner, how to communicate effectively, and how to get the best out of your partner, because beach volleyball, you rely so much on another human being that if you're not getting the best out of your partner, you're probably not going to win.
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Evan Cory:
So really trying to figure out how people's brains work, and he's really good at that.
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Evan Cory:
And trying to teach he taught me a lot about, okay, you've got to know the personality of your partner, how they receive compliments, and how to make them feel like they're the main.
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Mark Burik:
Did he give you any tricks to do that? Is there a number one thing that you attribute back to Joey that you say, I always do this with my partners, and Joey gave that to me.
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Evan Cory:
I think it's always, like just making them feel like they are the best player at the tournament and how they receive that is different based on the person.
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Evan Cory:
So like somebody like Bill, who is a little bit more to himself, Logan, is kind of the same way, a little bit more to themselves.
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Evan Cory:
Maybe you don't make them feel like, you know what I mean? You don't want to give them all this attention because some people don't like the attention, you know what I mean? But there's different ways, but there's also people who it's like, okay, this person, everybody in this complex needs to know that this guy is the best player, and you can scream it all you want.
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Evan Cory:
There's different ways of getting that to people, but I think it's just making your partner feel like they are the best player in the tournament.
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Evan Cory:
However, you figure that out, and that takes time, which is difficult.
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Evan Cory:
And I think that's why it's so valuable to me, because it's difficult, because there's so many different things that go on in people's brains up here that you don't know.
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Evan Cory:
And you've got to almost experiment with it and see how they react to things and pay attention whenever you say something, how they react of things.
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Mark Burik:
I love that we talk about that a lot in our courses and camps about exactly what you just said, making somebody feel like they are the best person on the court in the tournament, on the beach, in the AVP, wherever, because when you netpick and you give, like, little criticisms along the way, each one of those is a small chip in somebody's confidence.
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Mark Burik:
And after 40 points, when it's 19 19 in the second set, yes.
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Mark Burik:
You want that person feeling like a God, or do you want them feeling like they've got 19 things they need to fix? Yeah, there's a huge difference, and most people do not understand that in any way, and they don't understand how to implement that.
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Mark Burik:
And I've had moments where I've struggled with that, and then I got back to it.
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Mark Burik:
I think in College, I was a fantastic teammate because I had no skill.
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Mark Burik:
I was just raw energy, and that's what I brought.
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Mark Burik:
And then once I started acquiring skill, I think I neglected the energy for a while, and now I'm sort of back to an even keel where it's like, all right, now I've got the energy, and I know how to make you feel good.
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Mark Burik:
And the reason that I got on a court in indoor initially or even on the team was solely because of the energy, no skill whatsoever.
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Mark Burik:
And if you can attribute that both in indoor and the beach, if you can bring the positive energy that makes other people feel better, do better, do things.
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Mark Burik:
You can have an effect on the game without touching the ball.
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Mark Burik:
And it sounds like Joey did that as a coach did, and you can do that as a teammate.
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Mark Burik:
I love that.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
And I think the thing, too, is the other team feels it, you know what I mean? And it's like not a good feeling.
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Evan Cory:
When you feel like when the other side feels like they're unstoppable, then that puts a little bit of pressure back on you.
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Evan Cory:
So most people in that kind of crumble, there's great teams out there that they're going to be like, you know what? We're going to butt back, but most people don't like to butt heads with that energy.
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Evan Cory:
And that creates an advantage for you in the long run because there's so much energy and positivity and like, yeah, we're going to win this game that sometimes whenever you get a little bit of a lead, teams like, you know what? They are going to win this game.
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Mark Burik:
Yes.
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Mark Burik:
Even when you're playing like young kids, they're in an open tournament and kind of ready or assuming that you're going to beat them down and they come out with all this energy and they get one kill and they fire themselves up and they start screaming.
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Mark Burik:
You're just kind of waiting for them to calm down.
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Mark Burik:
You look at them like one of the dogs that are yapping.
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Mark Burik:
And if they never calm down, when are these guys just going to give up and know their place? And the people who don't know their place by the end of the match, who stay fired up, those are the ones who keep getting the most points.
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Mark Burik:
But the people that die down, the teams that like once you knock them down three times and they stay down, those are teams that they don't get to play.
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Mark Burik:
They don't get to get better for the next set and a half because they just feel like a beaten dog.
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Mark Burik:
So they're just down there and they won't come back and they won't attempt to learn because all they're thinking is, I'm waiting out this loss, but the people that stay higher energy and fired up for every point, they're figuring out each individual point how to win, and that's the team that's going to keep getting better.
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Mark Burik:
Those are the athletes that are going to keep rocking.
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Mark Burik:
Let's move on a little bit to some skills for you.
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Mark Burik:
It sounds like you've just always been a hitter.
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Mark Burik:
You fly.
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Mark Burik:
You might be the best jumper on the AVP right now.
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Mark Burik:
It's between you and Troy, I guess maybe Budinger, but sounds like hitting maybe came natural to you.
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Mark Burik:
But what do you think was or is right now the hardest skill or technique that you're developing or have developed?
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Evan Cory:
Yeah. So for me right now, I think it's just still a full work in progress.
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Evan Cory:
Is my defense just because I didn't transition to defense, I never played defense until the end of 2020,
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Mark Burik:
jumped high .So everybody was like, I'll put you at
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Evan Cory:
especially at home where I'm the tallest person, and I jumped high. I was like, yeah, of course you're going to go to the net.
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Mark Burik:
Yes.
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Mark Burik:
The 50 year old is like putting me up there.
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Mark Burik:
And he's like, great, you can block for me.
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Evan Cory:
Exactly.
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Evan Cory:
But it's just as I'm sure you know, there's so much nuance to a high level defense and just learning that and kind of honing in those skills for me is just a work in progress every day.
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Evan Cory:
It gets frustrating at times for me because there are certain points where you reach a high level matching like, oh, there's another level that I don't know yet, but you want to know, but it just takes time.
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Evan Cory:
And so I think the big joke right now, I have Evie Matthews as my coach, and he's a really high level thinker guy, knows a lot about the game.
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Evan Cory:
But same
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Mark Burik:
Congrats. Sarah and Kelly still leading top notch teams still.
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Evan Cory:
So no, you're good.
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Evan Cory:
But our strength and conditioning coach because he knows everyone pretty well as well.
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Evan Cory:
And he's like, you got to tell this dude's brain to slow down because like you said, you only have been playing this for a year and a half, two years now.
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Evan Cory:
And have he's been teaching this and playing this for like 30 years, right.
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Evan Cory:
So you got to tell him he's like on that calculus level, and you got to get him down to algebra, tell the student teacher the algebra before you get to calculus.
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Evan Cory:
And then we can start talking.
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Evan Cory:
But basically it's just starting to learn.
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Evan Cory:
Like, it's even still the basic stuff, you know what I mean? And like positioning and finding out what makes hitters think a different way.
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Evan Cory:
And even for me, sometimes it's like the angle and the softness I need to create on some of my digs just because it's not their muscle memory yet.
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Evan Cory:
I haven't been able to play or haven't played and practiced enough reps to fully have the comfortability in that yet.
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Mark Burik:
So is it the positioning are you currently working on the positioning that will make somebody hit a certain shot or just being in the right position for a certain dig or a certain shot? What exactly if you could dive down? Because the people who are listening here are trying to figure out where they are in their game and one actionable thing that they can fix or that they know that you're working on.
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Mark Burik:
So maybe they can work on the same thing.
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Evan Cory:
I think for me is the most important thing right now is my base position for one block, just like all kinds of blocks.
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Evan Cory:
So when I'm first getting into the court, figuring out what is like a good spot in the middle of the court for me to kind of start making my moves, a lot of people talk about starting in that middle back position and kind of making your move from there.
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Mark Burik:
Do you like that position, entering like straight through the middle for me.
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00:35:48,044 --> 00:35:49,338
Mark Burik:
I've gotten completely rid of that.
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00:35:49,364 --> 00:35:50,634
Mark Burik:
I did it for the first eight years.
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Mark Burik:
And just like I'm never entering middle again, I'll go very near my position or wherever.
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Mark Burik:
I think this person needs to see me in order to get the next big.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
So I'm kind of figuring out that based on the block we're running, there's different positioning, and then you can change that up throughout a match to give people different looks.
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Evan Cory:
And like, if you're playing for shots, okay, maybe my positioning on a line block will just be in the angle every single time to start.
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Evan Cory:
And then one time I'll go middle, and then what does that make the hitter think or something like that, you know what I mean? So changing all that up to kind of play that chess game with the hitter and try and getting some, especially against teams that shoot a lot, really trying to give them different visual cues and really trying to make them think and giving them late moves and stuff like that.
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Evan Cory:
I think the other thing that I'm really working on right now is staying balanced when the header is attacking, because I think I get into this rhythm of like, oh, this is the shot they're supposed to hit whenever I'm making this move.
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Evan Cory:
And so I'm just making this move here, and it needs to be a little bit more intentional.
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Evan Cory:
And I think that's my problem right now is, okay, making that intentional move so that I'm ready to still move whenever they attack that ball.
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Mark Burik:
I like that.
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00:37:06,032 --> 00:37:21,346
Mark Burik:
So you're out of the phase, which I think is important for a lot of players to be out of where you enter middle, hide your position by sitting in the middle, and then you either jump into the diagonal if you get a line block, or you jump into the parallel if you get a cross block.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
Now you're trying to play the full point, and that often doesn't work because as soon as you jump into the diagonal, high level players are going to see that high line for sure.
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Mark Burik:
And even if you think it's a high line, you're too late because you're off balance by that late jump.
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Mark Burik:
But if you do that sparingly and you figure out other positions, and then you don't just go for that dig.
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Mark Burik:
Right? You say, what did this make them do? Or what did I do that made them do that? What did they see? Figure that out instead of playing? I think way too many players play each point 1 point at a time.
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Mark Burik:
They sit there and they get so pissed every time they don't get a dig.
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00:38:02,516 --> 00:38:09,370
Mark Burik:
And then you'll see top level players who just the other team gets a very clean kill straight to the ace, and there is not even a move to the ball.
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Evan Cory:
And they're like, they don't care.
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Evan Cory:
Whatever.
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00:38:11,516 --> 00:38:14,254
Evan Cory:
Yeah, it's gaining.
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Evan Cory:
Okay.
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Evan Cory:
What are they doing every time that we do this? If I serve them here, what are they doing? If I serve them here, where are they attacking from? Are they shoveling to pass here? If they're attacking from this arm slot, Where's their shot most likely going to all that.
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Mark Burik:
Yes.
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00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:31,446
Mark Burik:
And it's not just I think they see me here.
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00:38:31,508 --> 00:38:34,806
Mark Burik:
I can't let them see me here sometimes I want them to see me here.
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00:38:34,868 --> 00:38:39,510
Mark Burik:
I want to set enough to make sure that I dig a hard shot if they're swinging every time.
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00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:44,480
Mark Burik:
Because if you're jumping and you're moving when somebody you're not digging a hard shot, no way.
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00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:52,074
Mark Burik:
So you got to choose, like, light on your feet or dug in, depending on what type of player you think you're against or what scenario they're in.
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Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
And I think somebody who's helped me out a lot with that is Ty Trembley, who just excellent defender.
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Mark Burik:
Oh, man.
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00:39:00,890 --> 00:39:08,610
Evan Cory:
And been able to pick his brain and work with him a little bit, which has been so much help to my game.
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00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:13,954
Evan Cory:
But just the way he talks about defense and sometimes he's like, you know what? Just stand on the angle.
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00:39:14,122 --> 00:39:14,598
Evan Cory:
Make them.
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00:39:14,624 --> 00:39:16,686
Evan Cory:
He's like, you know what? Hit this ball through me.
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00:39:16,748 --> 00:39:17,454
Evan Cory:
Hit it through me.
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00:39:17,492 --> 00:39:18,138
Evan Cory:
I'm going to dig you.
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00:39:18,164 --> 00:39:20,374
Evan Cory:
And then when you dig them, it's just demoralizing.
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00:39:20,482 --> 00:39:21,486
Evan Cory:
And that's what he's like.
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00:39:21,548 --> 00:39:26,478
Evan Cory:
You want to demoralize your opponent by like, they bring their best stuff and you just dig them.
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00:39:26,564 --> 00:39:34,018
Evan Cory:
And he's like, that's my favorite thing on the court, that guy, unfortunately, his defense is just so incredible.
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00:39:34,054 --> 00:39:45,514
Evan Cory:
But he did struggle outside at times, but he was just like that was like whenever us or somebody like me getting a big kill and just like swinging through a block or swinging through a defender, that was his defense.
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00:39:45,622 --> 00:39:47,586
Evan Cory:
He was like, all right, get it past me.
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00:39:47,708 --> 00:39:48,380
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:51,620
Evan Cory:
If he gets a great dig, that's when he stretched his stuff.
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00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:54,834
Mark Burik:
I think the people who come from indoor and Ty did.
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00:39:54,872 --> 00:39:57,786
Mark Burik:
So he stood down the line because he was a sitter in College.
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00:39:57,908 --> 00:40:02,470
Mark Burik:
He stood down the line against some of the biggest hitters in the country, some of their cross bodies.
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00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:05,734
Mark Burik:
And I played the barrel for a while in indoor.
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00:40:05,842 --> 00:40:09,430
Mark Burik:
And that mentality of this is my spot.
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00:40:09,610 --> 00:40:22,220
Mark Burik:
I'm going to wear this ball and I'm going to dig it not my whole team needs to trick this person into hitting something, but just standing in there and saying, I got to dig this ball by just sitting still.
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00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:29,430
Mark Burik:
People lose that in beach volleyball, when they make that transition, they lose the ability to just hold their ground.
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00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:35,660
Mark Burik:
And I think people lose a lot of digs because they're so movie, movie, movie all the time.
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00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:39,478
Mark Burik:
There's a time and a level where you can get movie.
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00:40:39,634 --> 00:40:44,302
Mark Burik:
But at some point you've got to go back to that indoor and saying, this is my zone.
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00:40:44,446 --> 00:40:46,294
Mark Burik:
If you hit hard, diagonal.
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00:40:46,402 --> 00:40:53,134
Mark Burik:
I'm digging you and I did the same thing, and I think Libero do the same thing in indoor where it goes, this is my zone.
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00:40:53,302 --> 00:40:55,530
Mark Burik:
If he hits this way, I'm lipping him.
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00:40:55,580 --> 00:40:57,654
Mark Burik:
If he hits another way, hopefully my team is there.
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Mark Burik:
But I don't think beach players do that because they worry about that whole open space in the other thing.
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v
And they say, but what about that? But what about that? But what about that? And if you think, but what about three different things and you don't use the one thing that you're going to defend, right? Yeah.
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Mark Burik:
People need to hold on to that to the whole big round phase a little bit more or at least try it.
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00:41:21,116 --> 00:41:22,434
Mark Burik:
Try it for a few points.
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00:41:22,592 --> 00:41:22,986
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
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00:41:23,048 --> 00:41:23,346
Mark Burik:
Okay.
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00:41:23,408 --> 00:41:33,920
Mark Burik:
So you're currently working on defense positioning, softening the touches and then not entering the same way every time so that you can create that look.
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00:41:34,370 --> 00:41:35,394
Mark Burik:
I love that.
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00:41:35,492 --> 00:41:59,000
Mark Burik:
Well, do you have any warnings or advice for exactly one tip for players who want to be like you who are trying to do that same thing? What is one thing that's working for you while you're doing that?
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00:41:59,870 --> 00:42:06,606
Evan Cory:
So one thing that's helped me, not naturally, but I built my body up pretty big throughout College. Physically, I'm pretty strong, but I think during that time I also didn't stretch enough.
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00:42:06,668 --> 00:42:10,398
Evan Cory:
So I mean, I'm strong, but at times I'm not like you.
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00:42:10,424 --> 00:42:15,826
Evan Cory:
I'm not going to be doing pretzels everywhere on the court, and I'm not super flexible.
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00:42:15,898 --> 00:42:27,886
Evan Cory:
And one thing that Ty really stressed to me was like, dude, you need to have the loosest hips to help with your defense because it helps in making those small shifts.
467
00:42:27,958 --> 00:42:32,358
Evan Cory:
It helps in digging those balls and getting lower to the ground so you can contact that ball lower.
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00:42:32,504 --> 00:42:42,826
Evan Cory:
And I found that the week of stretching or two weeks of stretching I've done since Ty has been like, hey, you need to be more flexible.
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00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:46,710
Evan Cory:
My defense is already improving and all of that, which I think is crazy.
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00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:51,620
Evan Cory:
And I think another thing would just be watching film of yourself.
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00:42:52,130 --> 00:43:01,614
Evan Cory:
That's helped me out a lot because there's sometimes that you go back and watch whenever I was saying I'm not intentional with my move, sometimes you don't even think about it.
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00:43:01,652 --> 00:43:14,694
Mark Burik:
You know what I mean by when you say intentional with your moves? How do you break it down?
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00:43:14,792 --> 00:43:16,594
Evan Cory:
My move isn't as fast and efficient as it should be to get to my spot, so I'm ready. You know what I mean? It's kind of a little bit slower.
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00:43:16,642 --> 00:43:22,638
Evan Cory:
It's like I'm kind of getting in there, but I'm not like, all right, I'm here and I'm ready to move.
475
00:43:22,664 --> 00:43:23,878
Evan Cory:
Whenever the person is hitting the ball.
476
00:43:23,914 --> 00:43:30,080
Evan Cory:
It's like I'm getting ready when they're hitting the ball, as opposed I should be ready like a split second before.
477
00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:36,558
Evan Cory:
So that intentional move of a quick shuffle versus like an open up step, that was my thing.
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00:43:36,644 --> 00:43:41,970
Evan Cory:
So I'm opening up with one leg and then shuffling, which is like a half a second, not even.
479
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:52,838
Evan Cory:
And so I'm like if I make that a quick shuffle instead of opening up with my step, I'm there in enough time and I'm ready to move nice
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Mark Burik:
and then skewing in on looking and positioning your body at the attacker while doing that. I think that shuffle that you're talking about because I've gotten into that too, where you shuffle to a place but you're not actively saying while I'm moving I should also be able to dig.
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00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:44,650
Mark Burik:
Like if you imagine that you could dig every single ball, that like if 1000 balls were being machine gunned at you as you're moving, would you be able to dig every thousand one of those balls? Okay, so that's what you mean by intentional is are you getting into a position and making a move so that you are completely ready to dig at every moment or the right moment? How do you interpret it?
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Evan Cory:
I think it's just being in a ready position before they attack the ball because I think I'm getting ready as they're attacking rather than being ready before they're attacking. And I think that's a big difference because I think that's the difference between your Loading on your left leg versus your balance in the middle.
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00:44:53,348 --> 00:45:00,054
Evan Cory:
And then if you can't push back to the line if you're loaded, you know what I mean? So I think it's that.
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00:45:00,092 --> 00:45:20,058
Evan Cory:
So I'm balanced before they attack, not as they attack, but what about the people that say that you're giving up their spot once you're staying there and you're balanced? What about the people that say, well okay, but if I've stopped in that position, then they know where I am and then they can shoot away from me.
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00:45:20,204 --> 00:45:30,298
Mark Burik:
How would you answer somebody that asks that?
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00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:45,018
Evan Cory:
You know, I think, I mean you're going to start reaching a high, high level where people are looking almost as they're attacking the ball. But if you're set after the jump, most of the time you'll be in a good position that they're not going to fully see you or you can just make a little small move here there with your upper body to your lower body still balance so they can still think something else.
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00:45:45,164 --> 00:46:04,674
Evan Cory:
But I think there's a certain for most of the people probably listening to this, if you're set after the person is in the air, nobody is going to be seeing that, you know what I mean? And if they do, you should have a blocker that's decent enough.
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00:46:04,712 --> 00:46:11,742
Evan Cory:
And if they just see you in the angle and pop it up high line, you should be balanced and ready to move to that spot and you should be.
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00:46:11,756 --> 00:46:20,662
Evan Cory:
And if they're seeing that kind of a level, then that person probably shouldn't be playing in a lower level tournament.
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Mark Burik:
Sure.
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Mark Burik:
Yeah.
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00:46:22,028 --> 00:46:26,660
Mark Burik:
And I think there's a couple of things to unpack there as well.
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00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:32,770
Mark Burik:
The people who only jump four or five inches say you're playing those little jumps.
494
00:46:32,890 --> 00:46:37,906
Mark Burik:
There's not that time to move in between takeoff and jump.
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00:46:38,098 --> 00:46:48,282
Mark Burik:
So for those people maybe get more stable earlier, because if they're jumping that low, they're probably not going to shoot or pound the ball effectively anyway.
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00:46:48,416 --> 00:46:52,882
Evan Cory:
I was going to say the time that you're going to have to chase down your shots going to be greater.
497
00:46:52,906 --> 00:46:59,240
Evan Cory:
So let them see you and then make them hit a good shot and beat you, because you're going to have time to go and run that thing down.
498
00:46:59,690 --> 00:47:00,306
Mark Burik:
Right.
499
00:47:00,428 --> 00:47:06,706
Mark Burik:
But if you're playing against a high flyer, then you need that drill of let them jump.
500
00:47:06,838 --> 00:47:11,410
Mark Burik:
Then I move that red light, green light situation where you can't even lean.
501
00:47:11,530 --> 00:47:16,914
Mark Burik:
You got to stay completely neutral, take off, move and balance before the hit.
502
00:47:16,952 --> 00:47:18,942
Mark Burik:
And that has to be so quick and so small.
503
00:47:19,076 --> 00:47:20,638
Mark Burik:
But there's a lot of defenders.
504
00:47:20,674 --> 00:47:38,338
Mark Burik:
What I used to do is you make this giant move instead of a half of a shuffle, step into that position and a giant move puts you so off balance that now all of the positioning work you've done is now eradicated because you're off balance.
505
00:47:38,494 --> 00:47:51,200
Mark Burik:
So I think people could probably do with some smaller shifting, like little half shuffles and that practice of seeing somebody jump like you're saying then moving.
506
00:47:51,590 --> 00:47:59,194
Mark Burik:
I think a lot of people, they move on the jump, and that's too early because I can still look at you while I'm jumping.
507
00:47:59,302 --> 00:48:03,162
Mark Burik:
I can't really see you too well, like way after I'm in the air.
508
00:48:03,296 --> 00:48:17,274
Evan Cory:
But while I'm jumping, if you're leaning or moving, as I say, if you're taking your look in that step close as your eyes are dragging up to the ball, you're still seeing in your peripherals what's kind of going on just a little bit. And so, I mean, if you make that big move whenever my peripherals are on their way up and I'm seeing that big move easy,
509
00:48:17,312 --> 00:48:40,110
Mark Burik:
you do have and at least you project it just a ton, a ton, a ton of confidence, and you've backed it up with big wins, consistent big wins.
510
00:48:42,630 --> 00:49:02,470
Mark Burik:
I want you to describe for somebody at a time when you weren't feeling confident and what you did to overcome it, do you just shut it up? Do you bury it deep down? Do you go back to the drawing board? Do you have any times where you weren't confident or you were just drilled it into your body that I will be supreme confidence the whole time?
511
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:09,190
Evan Cory:
No. I mean, through this whole journey of defense, all of last year, everybody kind of was like, you're not a defender.
512
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:12,250
Evan Cory:
I still hear it from people out here.
513
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:13,946
Evan Cory:
You're not a defender, you're a blocker.
514
00:49:14,078 --> 00:49:16,954
Evan Cory:
And I get pretty pissed about it.
515
00:49:16,992 --> 00:49:21,926
Evan Cory:
You know what I mean? It's like, all right, well, I'm not a defender, but I took into 9th place in an AVP.
516
00:49:22,058 --> 00:49:29,340
Mark Burik:
And most people, they're only saying that because there are no blockers left and they all want you to block for them.
517
00:49:33,490 --> 00:49:42,998
Evan Cory:
I mean, at that point, I was like, well, I took a 9th, but in the beginning of it all and I'm struggling and it's frustrating my entire off season of 2021.
518
00:49:43,144 --> 00:49:49,310
Evan Cory:
So from November of 2020 to March of 2021, it was a struggle.
519
00:49:49,930 --> 00:49:54,714
Evan Cory:
There was times where I just go home and I'm like, I'm not going to be a defender.
520
00:49:54,762 --> 00:49:56,320
Evan Cory:
There's no way I'm not good enough.
521
00:49:58,330 --> 00:50:05,870
Evan Cory:
But I think one, Joey helped me out a lot with that because he just, no matter what unwavering was like, no, you are.
522
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,542
Evan Cory:
You're good enough.
523
00:50:06,616 --> 00:50:11,200
Evan Cory:
Like, day in and day out, he's like, we're going to go through struggles, but this is the process.
524
00:50:12,010 --> 00:50:22,794
Evan Cory:
And then two is just like I feel like most of my life I've had to just bet on myself and just roll with whatever cards were dealt.
525
00:50:22,842 --> 00:50:25,298
Evan Cory:
And I was like, you know what? My hand is going to win no matter what.
526
00:50:25,324 --> 00:50:31,694
Evan Cory:
I don't know how I'm going to win my hand, but whether it be through bluffing people or doing something, I'm going to figure it out.
527
00:50:31,732 --> 00:50:45,026
Evan Cory:
And so I think I kind of got to a point like, you know what? I might not have all the answers right now, but I'm going to have all the answers at some point in my life and I'm going to keep working my butt off to try and get to that.
528
00:50:45,088 --> 00:51:03,450
Evan Cory:
And so I think it was the confidence more in myself, like as a human being and my work ethic and my character of like, you know what? Nobody's going to put in this work to try and get to where you need to be, and then you already have really good physical gifts.
529
00:51:03,570 --> 00:51:07,034
Evan Cory:
So let's use those two things.
530
00:51:07,072 --> 00:51:09,858
Evan Cory:
And when there are times you are struggling.
531
00:51:09,894 --> 00:51:17,080
Evan Cory:
So let's say I'm not the best offender at this point, but there's other things that I can do to help offset that.
532
00:51:17,470 --> 00:51:28,790
Evan Cory:
So in the process of becoming the best defender that I can be, let me also do the things that I do really well and help me still win while I'm learning that.
533
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:40,262
Evan Cory:
And I think that confidence is kind of like you're building it through that and not necessarily harping on the negative, but kind of, you know what, we did this really well today.
534
00:51:40,456 --> 00:51:42,590
Evan Cory:
You always do this really well.
535
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:49,060
Evan Cory:
So let's keep doing that whenever we're in competition because we know we can win that way.
536
00:51:49,570 --> 00:51:53,980
Evan Cory:
So I think that builds that confidence,
537
00:51:55,030 --> 00:52:03,290
Mark Burik:
whether you know it or not. You just basically talked about something that people talk about in psychology, sports psychology, and actually sales, which is called future pacing.
538
00:52:03,730 --> 00:52:14,022
Mark Burik:
And the confidence in your future where you're at or where you're struggling right now, that's not where your mind focuses.
539
00:52:14,106 --> 00:52:21,520
Mark Burik:
Once you get into trouble and correct me if I'm wrong, but you take a look at yeah, but this isn't where I'm going to be.
540
00:52:22,990 --> 00:52:30,350
Mark Burik:
This is a step along the way because you see yourself as a champion in one, two, three, maybe five years.
541
00:52:30,460 --> 00:52:34,454
Mark Burik:
But you say this was one of those things that I had to learn.
542
00:52:34,612 --> 00:52:41,030
Mark Burik:
This is a month long struggle that I have to go through in order to bring me to that next level.
543
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:48,114
Mark Burik:
Instead of sitting in that misery and saying this is where it sucks, you say your mind doesn't say this is where it sucks.
544
00:52:48,162 --> 00:52:52,060
Mark Burik:
You say this is where it's going to be great because of this.
545
00:52:53,650 --> 00:52:54,122
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
546
00:52:54,196 --> 00:52:59,246
Evan Cory:
And I don't know, I feel like there's just, like, resilience in me.
547
00:52:59,368 --> 00:52:59,786
Evan Cory:
I don't know.
548
00:52:59,788 --> 00:53:00,782
Evan Cory:
It's kind of always been there.
549
00:53:00,796 --> 00:53:10,600
Evan Cory:
And it's funny if we talk about New Orleans as a whole is kind of just a resilient city in the fact, I mean, think about Hurricanes and stuff like that.
550
00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:20,474
Evan Cory:
It always feels like there's a lot of stuff that gets beat down there, but we're just like that Rocky type of like, it hit me six times, knocked me down six times.
551
00:53:20,512 --> 00:53:22,010
Evan Cory:
I'm still going to get upset.
552
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:30,100
Evan Cory:
And I think just that kind of like grit and determination that it's just all over in the city.
553
00:53:31,150 --> 00:53:37,058
Evan Cory:
A lot of great athletes have come out of there, and I think it's just kind of taught in our sports there growing up.
554
00:53:37,204 --> 00:54:00,254
Mark Burik:
Do you visualize? Do you have any techniques where you say you have a picture of yourself mentally or an actual picture of yourself or a picture of somebody else that you've cut out your face on and pasted it on in your bedroom that you hold onto that picture? Or is it just the idea of like, hey, I'm going to be the top defender in the US, so that's the mental picture that I have.
555
00:54:00,292 --> 00:54:07,370
Mark Burik:
Or is it you sitting on a podium or is it you doing interviews afterwards? Do you do any of that visualization?
556
00:54:08,650 --> 00:54:13,590
Evan Cory:
I think in my brain. One, I know that I can be the best defender in the US, and that's a goal.
557
00:54:13,770 --> 00:54:20,514
Evan Cory:
Two, I know I can be an Olympian, and then three, I know I can win a gold medal in the FIVB, if not the Olympics.
558
00:54:20,622 --> 00:54:27,266
Evan Cory:
And that's what I tell myself in my head when you first start thinking about those things, you're like, no, you're crazy, whatever.
559
00:54:27,388 --> 00:54:30,626
Evan Cory:
And I think a lot of people, when they hear that stuff, they're like, it's crazy.
560
00:54:30,688 --> 00:54:40,214
Evan Cory:
But it's interesting because I feel like the more that you think about that and then the more that you put the work in towards it, the more that you start, you know what? This can happen.
561
00:54:40,312 --> 00:54:41,030
Evan Cory:
This can happen.
562
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,122
Evan Cory:
This actually can happen.
563
00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:51,506
Evan Cory:
And so I feel like I thought about that like a couple of years ago in College, and I was like, you know what? I could play professional volleyball and at that point, you're like, you're crazy.
564
00:54:51,628 --> 00:54:57,018
Evan Cory:
And then you're just getting in, breaking into professional volleyball, and then you're like, oh, no, I can keep pushing this further.
565
00:54:57,054 --> 00:54:59,382
Evan Cory:
And so I think it's more of chasing.
566
00:54:59,466 --> 00:55:08,282
Evan Cory:
And I listen to this, and Matthew McConaughey has this great line, and the person that he looks up to is himself ten years from now.
567
00:55:08,356 --> 00:55:09,280
Mark Burik:
That's awesome.
568
00:55:10,750 --> 00:55:12,866
Evan Cory:
He's always going to be chasing that person.
569
00:55:12,928 --> 00:55:25,850
Evan Cory:
I think that's kind of how it's going to evolve for me, because thinking back on it now is like, oh, this dream and this vision of who I could be as an athlete just keeps evolving.
570
00:55:26,590 --> 00:55:38,150
Evan Cory:
And so I think it's just going to continue for two years, three years from now, that's who I'm chasing after, because that's who I feel like I can be.
571
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,880
Mark Burik:
That's so great.
572
00:55:41,350 --> 00:55:48,890
Mark Burik:
Matthew McConaughey has got a very interesting story where he didn't work for like five years.
573
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:49,394
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
574
00:55:49,432 --> 00:55:53,718
Evan Cory:
Because he didn't want to be stuck in his one role.
575
00:55:53,814 --> 00:55:54,110
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
576
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,322
Evan Cory:
And then he got what, 13 and a half million dollars offer for one movie.
577
00:55:59,346 --> 00:56:03,966
Evan Cory:
And he declined it because he was like, no, I'm refusing to be in this role anymore.
578
00:56:04,038 --> 00:56:07,790
Evan Cory:
And I want to expand my limits as an actor, which is awesome.
579
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:14,778
Mark Burik:
Can you imagine if you take that from Hollywood, from Matthew McConaughey? He wasn't getting jobs.
580
00:56:14,814 --> 00:56:16,398
Mark Burik:
It's not that he left Hollywood.
581
00:56:16,434 --> 00:56:19,274
Mark Burik:
He just wasn't getting jobs because he wouldn't be there.
582
00:56:19,372 --> 00:56:33,098
Mark Burik:
Imagine winning a bunch and then doing a position shift saying, like pulling an Avery and going from blocker to defender for a little while or right now, Troy, who's gone from blocker to defender, right.
583
00:56:33,244 --> 00:56:35,742
Mark Burik:
Trian and Trevor, a bunch of people who made these shifts.
584
00:56:35,766 --> 00:56:43,742
Mark Burik:
But imagine going for a four or five year span without winning a tournament, whether a major one or a middle one.
585
00:56:43,756 --> 00:56:54,820
Evan Cory:
It's almost like being a qualifier player for four or five years, like staying in the qualifier after you've already been in the main and then you're back in the qualifier for four or five years don't qualify once.
586
00:56:55,810 --> 00:56:58,298
Evan Cory:
But you're like, you know what? No, this is going to pay off.
587
00:56:58,444 --> 00:56:58,862
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
588
00:56:58,936 --> 00:57:01,010
Mark Burik:
It's a fun route, and it waives.
589
00:57:01,630 --> 00:57:07,890
Mark Burik:
I think the confidence that you're talking about, sometimes it does wave because you said that it sounded crazy in the beginning.
590
00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:13,998
Mark Burik:
I kind of had straight up confidence in the beginning, and then it waved back down where you have enough losses.
591
00:57:14,034 --> 00:57:19,398
Mark Burik:
You're like, oh, man, you don't know if that was just childish confidence.
592
00:57:19,494 --> 00:57:21,306
Mark Burik:
And then you start getting some wins.
593
00:57:21,318 --> 00:57:22,902
Mark Burik:
You start packing on some new skills.
594
00:57:22,926 --> 00:57:24,230
Mark Burik:
You get some big wins.
595
00:57:24,610 --> 00:57:26,066
Mark Burik:
Oh, I got this again.
596
00:57:26,188 --> 00:57:40,694
Mark Burik:
And if you can fight through those little dips of confidence and hold on to the future pacing like we talked about, you just kind of keep going and people get stuck into where they are instead of where they are going to be.
597
00:57:40,852 --> 00:57:43,778
Mark Burik:
And I think people need to continue to do that.
598
00:57:43,804 --> 00:57:47,140
Mark Burik:
Players need to continue to hold on to where they're going to be, just like you said.
599
00:57:47,650 --> 00:57:49,886
Mark Burik:
Well, just a couple more questions that we have.
600
00:57:49,948 --> 00:58:16,420
Mark Burik:
So I just want to ask you, are there any tools, equipment, food supplements or just must haves that you always need at home, at practice, at the gym or on the road while you're competing or while you're just relaxing?
601
00:58:16,990 --> 00:58:22,254
Evan Cory:
I think a big one, and I've kind of got into a habit of it is like two to three times a week, like hydration, whatever kind of powder or whatever. At least doing that, like that two to three times a week, regardless of hydration powder.
602
00:58:22,302 --> 00:58:30,402
Evan Cory:
What do you mean? There's little like liquid IV packets or any of that kind of stuff that people love to drink for tournaments.
603
00:58:30,426 --> 00:58:38,022
Evan Cory:
I've kind of noticed that if I do that like two to three times a week, it helps me out muscle wise and it helps me recovery wise.
604
00:58:38,046 --> 00:58:42,722
Evan Cory:
I feel like I'm not because sometimes my muscles I have problems.
605
00:58:42,796 --> 00:58:43,722
Mark Burik:
Huge muscles.
606
00:58:43,806 --> 00:58:44,680
Evan Cory:
Yeah, exactly.
607
00:58:46,090 --> 00:58:49,830
Evan Cory:
But there's a lot of muscle to constantly be, like straining.
608
00:58:49,950 --> 00:58:53,930
Evan Cory:
And so I'll notice my muscles get super tight.
609
00:58:54,430 --> 00:58:57,222
Evan Cory:
I'm not going to cramp, but it feels like I'm going to cramp.
610
00:58:57,246 --> 00:59:04,226
Evan Cory:
And that tightness is pretty relieved if I'm staying on top of that.
611
00:59:04,288 --> 00:59:08,502
Evan Cory:
And drinking a lot of water does stuff to a certain extent.
612
00:59:08,526 --> 00:59:14,690
Evan Cory:
But I've noticed that if you don't get those electrolytes in you, you don't retain the water as well.
613
00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:17,150
Evan Cory:
So that one is a huge thing for me.
614
00:59:17,260 --> 00:59:25,466
Evan Cory:
I don't have a specific brand or anything that I swear by, but like hydration, like electrolytes are a must.
615
00:59:25,588 --> 00:59:44,430
Evan Cory:
This is going to sound really, really weird, but at tournaments and it's kind of just like my superstition Gummy Bears, because like 20 minutes before a match, I'll just eat a mouthful because Gummy Bears instantly turn into that sugar in your body and likes your blood sugar levels.
616
00:59:44,490 --> 00:59:53,042
Evan Cory:
And like, I'm like ready to go before the match then and usually sustains pretty well for the length of a match about the time that you need to go.
617
00:59:53,116 --> 00:59:58,538
Evan Cory:
So especially like in those longer tournament days, I mean, AVPs and stuff.
618
00:59:58,564 --> 01:00:00,378
Evan Cory:
Now I'm replaying way less matches.
619
01:00:00,414 --> 01:00:01,706
Evan Cory:
It's not going to be as important.
620
01:00:01,768 --> 01:00:07,370
Evan Cory:
But those five, six match days, I'll match like four or five when you're like, man, I'm tired.
621
01:00:08,350 --> 01:00:10,754
Evan Cory:
It gets you up and gets you going for that next match.
622
01:00:10,852 --> 01:00:12,542
Evan Cory:
That was one of the things.
623
01:00:12,616 --> 01:00:15,750
Evan Cory:
And I mean, most people are like, oh, but it's not healthy.
624
01:00:15,870 --> 01:00:18,230
Evan Cory:
Well, you're burning 50 calories in a day.
625
01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:23,138
Evan Cory:
You're able to afford some artificial sugar that gets you that way.
626
01:00:23,224 --> 01:00:40,694
Mark Burik:
Are there better ways for people out there? Like, number one, superstition little mental health, little mental kick, like I'm the Gummy Bear guy, and that gives me the confidence that sugar 20 minutes before perfect timing, I would say maybe then if you're 30 minutes into a match.
627
01:00:40,792 --> 01:00:44,342
Mark Burik:
Hopefully just wipe this team out and it's like a 38 minutes match.
628
01:00:44,476 --> 01:00:50,198
Mark Burik:
But after that first set, another half a handful just to make sure that sugar kick stays high.
629
01:00:50,344 --> 01:00:51,410
Mark Burik:
That's how it works.
630
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,134
Mark Burik:
And you could do it with fruit or some better sugars.
631
01:00:55,182 --> 01:01:03,290
Mark Burik:
But any little bit of sugar at that point, so long as you didn't take it an hour before the match and now you're on the sugar downswing.
632
01:01:03,850 --> 01:01:05,142
Mark Burik:
That'll be bad timing.
633
01:01:05,166 --> 01:01:07,022
Mark Burik:
But 20 minutes before the match is perfect.
634
01:01:07,096 --> 01:01:18,506
Mark Burik:
And then if you can just keep it with a couple more, like supplement yourself with a Gummy bear, every side switch and Sandy long grueling day.
635
01:01:18,568 --> 01:01:20,020
Evan Cory:
It keeps the soul happy.
636
01:01:21,550 --> 01:01:22,826
Mark Burik:
Gummy Bears are always happy.
637
01:01:22,888 --> 01:01:23,894
Mark Burik:
They got the little hands.
638
01:01:23,992 --> 01:01:24,686
Evan Cory:
Exactly.
639
01:01:24,868 --> 01:01:26,514
Mark Burik:
You don't see the frowning Gummy bears.
640
01:01:26,562 --> 01:01:27,770
Mark Burik:
They always get a smile.
641
01:01:28,570 --> 01:01:29,666
Evan Cory:
Let's see what else.
642
01:01:29,788 --> 01:01:32,474
Evan Cory:
I'm a pretty big lacrosse ball person.
643
01:01:32,572 --> 01:01:35,654
Evan Cory:
I always have a lacrosse ball in my bag to roll out.
644
01:01:35,752 --> 01:01:37,382
Evan Cory:
I film all of our stuff.
645
01:01:37,456 --> 01:01:41,534
Evan Cory:
I'm huge on trying to keep a video databank of everything.
646
01:01:41,632 --> 01:01:44,022
Evan Cory:
And I've actually taken your recommendation.
647
01:01:44,166 --> 01:01:50,260
Evan Cory:
We have a private group for our practices now that I get to watch on Facebook Live.
648
01:01:51,550 --> 01:01:59,234
Evan Cory:
I mean, we can go and watch stuff on Zoom as a team, but I have four or five people and we're just like, all right, we share the screen and just play it.
649
01:01:59,272 --> 01:02:01,094
Evan Cory:
And we could talk about it all at once.
650
01:02:01,132 --> 01:02:03,042
Evan Cory:
And it's really helpful.
651
01:02:03,186 --> 01:02:08,462
Evan Cory:
So I keep tripod portable charger with me.
652
01:02:08,536 --> 01:02:11,594
Evan Cory:
Bands like the ones that go around your ankles and stuff.
653
01:02:11,632 --> 01:02:16,900
Evan Cory:
I think those are the most universal because you can also do some stuff with shoulders and stuff if you really need to.
654
01:02:18,490 --> 01:02:20,942
Evan Cory:
And that is about it.
655
01:02:20,956 --> 01:02:31,650
Evan Cory:
I'm pretty big on recovery tools to help supplement, but I think stretching is more important than like using the Theragon.
656
01:02:31,710 --> 01:02:35,822
Evan Cory:
I think people want to just use that as like, oh, okay, I'll just Theragun and I'm good to go.
657
01:02:35,836 --> 01:02:38,522
Evan Cory:
I don't need to stretch anything.
658
01:02:38,596 --> 01:02:45,834
Mark Burik:
It's Theragun before stretch because the Theragun will shut off the nerve endings so that you're less sensitive, which means you can get into a deeper range.
659
01:02:45,942 --> 01:02:52,058
Mark Burik:
So if you're just there again for no reason, you might shut off some nerve endings if you're sensitive or in pain.
660
01:02:52,204 --> 01:02:55,454
Mark Burik:
But then you need to increase your range after that.
661
01:02:55,492 --> 01:03:01,854
Mark Burik:
So it should always be massage, then stretch massage, then stretch to deepen that range of motion.
662
01:03:01,902 --> 01:03:04,686
Mark Burik:
And hopefully you can develop a little bit of strength in that deeper range.
663
01:03:04,818 --> 01:03:05,474
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
664
01:03:05,632 --> 01:03:13,190
Evan Cory:
So I mean, I have all kinds of different stuff for that, but I think the stretching is more important.
665
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:22,034
Evan Cory:
And then I've had knee problems since College and jumping and hitting as much as I did.
666
01:03:22,192 --> 01:03:23,142
Evan Cory:
It takes a toll.
667
01:03:23,226 --> 01:03:26,918
Evan Cory:
And so I mean, I have this thing.
668
01:03:26,944 --> 01:03:30,054
Evan Cory:
It does heat and cooling.
669
01:03:30,162 --> 01:03:34,718
Evan Cory:
It's not like the full, I think, temperature of ice, but it's pretty close.
670
01:03:34,804 --> 01:03:38,560
Evan Cory:
And I travel with that everywhere because I think that helps me a lot.
671
01:03:39,250 --> 01:03:46,958
Evan Cory:
And it gets the knee warmed up for practice or after practice, kind of cools it down and gets everything feeling right after.
672
01:03:47,104 --> 01:03:47,630
Mark Burik:
Nice.
673
01:03:47,740 --> 01:03:48,880
Mark Burik:
Okay, last question.
674
01:03:49,510 --> 01:04:06,194
Mark Burik:
Are there any projects or anything that you're working on outside of just competing in volleyball that you want to share with anybody?
675
01:04:06,352 --> 01:04:14,860
Evan Cory:
Yes, I have my own clothing line, awesome bluenosebeach.com. It's just one way for people to both rep me if they want to and also support me because all the profits just go to me.
676
01:04:15,310 --> 01:04:17,438
Evan Cory:
And I think it's a good way.
677
01:04:17,464 --> 01:04:18,282
Evan Cory:
Like a tournaments.
678
01:04:18,306 --> 01:04:27,434
Evan Cory:
Like, there's people that have certain things that people I want to be able to recognize if somebody is my fan because that makes me see them.
679
01:04:27,472 --> 01:04:43,840
Evan Cory:
And then you know what, I'm going to go and have a conversation with that person because like, thank you to me, if you're helping, supporting my journey like your family, it means a lot because for most beach volleyball players, it's not easy to try and get this career off and running.
680
01:04:44,890 --> 01:04:51,518
Evan Cory:
So any kind of support and even like $10, you know what I mean? I make $10 on each shirt after everything.
681
01:04:51,604 --> 01:05:00,040
Evan Cory:
And so it's like, hey, you just paid for my meal at the tournament by buying it
682
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:16,382
Mark Burik:
and you're giving them something. The whole Patreon Go fund me stuff really bothers me when people aren't giving their fans or their supporters something that they'll enjoy, something that they'll value.
683
01:05:16,516 --> 01:05:27,314
Mark Burik:
Hey, support me while I play a game, even though there are tons of other bad things happening in the world, at least give something back to the world.
684
01:05:27,352 --> 01:05:35,390
Mark Burik:
Give them something that they'll enjoy, something that they'll like, apparel that they're going to love wearing, and it's going to generate some conversation that's something good.
685
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:44,298
Mark Burik:
But if you're sitting there and you're just I have a big problem with the bag for money with GoFundMe and with Patreon.
686
01:05:44,394 --> 01:05:54,782
Mark Burik:
When you're not providing something for a business or for an individual, something that they'll enjoy, something that they'll benefit from, I have a huge problem with that.
687
01:05:54,856 --> 01:05:55,814
Mark Burik:
Players need it.
688
01:05:55,852 --> 01:06:00,760
Mark Burik:
There is no doubt that we need money.
689
01:06:01,330 --> 01:06:15,590
Mark Burik:
But to go around with a hand out when we're living a pretty privileged life and we can already spend 4 hours a day on the beach and working out, it's like, you know what, you're going to have to do something better for me.
690
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:36,858
Mark Burik:
I'm not saying that the people who have the money and want to support athletes shouldn't, but there's got to be a balance of can I provide something instead of ask for something?
691
01:06:36,894 --> 01:06:46,286
Evan Cory:
Yeah, I do Patreon as well, but I was pretty big because I was weighing options and I didn't want to do a go fund me because I feel like that's the biggest handout. When you're like, hey, I have a stream, can you support it? So for my Patreon, I mean, I give weekly updates, I give a calendar of where I'm going to be.
692
01:06:46,408 --> 01:06:47,994
Evan Cory:
I give workouts.
693
01:06:48,042 --> 01:06:51,162
Evan Cory:
So this is where I was like, people value to give workouts.
694
01:06:51,246 --> 01:06:53,800
Evan Cory:
And I need to give practice stuff.
695
01:06:54,310 --> 01:07:04,614
Evan Cory:
Because then at that point, now you're getting an inside look at my life and you're getting inside look at what a professional athlete is doing to try and prepare and how they can prepare.
696
01:07:04,782 --> 01:07:05,438
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
697
01:07:05,584 --> 01:07:11,798
Evan Cory:
And I think I'll give in my weekly updates sometimes it's not just like, oh, yeah, this is what I did this week.
698
01:07:11,824 --> 01:07:14,414
Evan Cory:
I try to find like a lesson or something.
699
01:07:14,452 --> 01:07:23,270
Evan Cory:
That's something I've thought about and learned this week and give a little bit of insight behind what I'm thinking at a certain point in time.
700
01:07:23,380 --> 01:07:25,602
Evan Cory:
Like, okay, this week I was goal setting.
701
01:07:25,626 --> 01:07:39,554
Evan Cory:
I was trying to figure out what goals I was doing, what goes behind picking out my goals, what goes behind the mindset that I have going into a tournament, you know what I mean? Giving something like a little bit extra because I feel like for the most part, people are like, here's what I did this week.
702
01:07:39,592 --> 01:07:42,446
Evan Cory:
And that's not that interesting.
703
01:07:42,628 --> 01:07:43,118
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
704
01:07:43,204 --> 01:07:52,202
Mark Burik:
And if you're a great writer, if you're somebody like Travis who can make it an entertaining and educating read, then that's good.
705
01:07:52,276 --> 01:07:55,550
Mark Burik:
That's something that you are actually providing.
706
01:07:56,290 --> 01:07:56,990
Mark Burik:
All right.
707
01:07:57,100 --> 01:08:02,690
Mark Burik:
If you guys want to follow him on Instagram, it is Evan Cory Volley.
708
01:08:03,010 --> 01:08:04,238
Mark Burik:
You guys can check it out.
709
01:08:04,264 --> 01:08:11,498
Mark Burik:
Go ahead and give him a follow and check out his website and his close over at Bluenose Beach.com.
710
01:08:11,644 --> 01:08:22,660
Mark Burik:
If you are here live right now, you can come on to the chat and entered into YouTube or our Facebook group and you can ask me and Evans some questions.
711
01:08:27,650 --> 01:08:30,330
Mark Burik:
First one is from Diana Marquez.
712
01:08:30,710 --> 01:08:38,854
Mark Burik:
She asked Mark, where can I get one of your shirts? Diana, if you want to check out some better At Beach shirts, you can head to better atbeach.com/shop
713
01:08:38,962 --> 01:08:45,594
Mark Burik:
and you can check out the apparel there.
714
01:08:45,632 --> 01:08:46,378
Mark Burik:
Click on the apparel.
715
01:08:46,414 --> 01:08:49,114
Mark Burik:
It'll bring you to Teespring and you can order those shirts.
716
01:08:49,282 --> 01:08:55,582
Mark Burik:
If you want to get some gear from Evan, you go to Bluenose Beach.com.
717
01:08:55,726 --> 01:09:00,970
Mark Burik:
Bluenosebeach.com Christine Bread Hoff says, Hi, Evan.
718
01:09:01,030 --> 01:09:01,890
Mark Burik:
So good to see you.
719
01:09:01,940 --> 01:09:03,140
Mark Burik:
She gave you a little heart.
720
01:09:04,430 --> 01:09:08,398
Evan Cory:
That's an Sob person from Colorado.
721
01:09:08,554 --> 01:09:09,260
Mark Burik:
Nice.
722
01:09:09,770 --> 01:09:10,518
Mark Burik:
Love it.
723
01:09:10,604 --> 01:09:16,606
Mark Burik:
Getting the beach volleyball vacation circuit for us, coach for Sob.
724
01:09:16,678 --> 01:09:19,362
Mark Burik:
Did you do the volleyball vacations?
725
01:09:19,496 --> 01:09:20,874
Evan Cory:
I did. Nice Turks as well.
726
01:09:20,972 --> 01:09:22,160
Mark Burik:
You've got all three.
727
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:24,046
Mark Burik:
You've done the whole circle.
728
01:09:24,118 --> 01:09:24,618
Mark Burik:
I love it.
729
01:09:24,644 --> 01:09:25,266
Evan Cory:
Yes.
730
01:09:25,448 --> 01:09:29,710
Evan Cory:
And for anybody asking, there is no preference.
731
01:09:29,770 --> 01:09:32,900
Evan Cory:
I think they're all very different experiences and they're all great.
732
01:09:33,470 --> 01:09:34,220
Mark Burik:
Thanks.
733
01:09:34,970 --> 01:09:36,440
Mark Burik:
Except ours are the best.
734
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:43,030
Mark Burik:
You want to get better? Ron Birch says kick some butt in Mexico tomorrow.
735
01:09:43,090 --> 01:09:48,082
Mark Burik:
My son's girlfriend is there and maybe she'll swing by and watch sweet Tammy Clark nap.
736
01:09:48,106 --> 01:09:51,474
Mark Burik:
How are you doing? I kept trying to convince my kids to play.
737
01:09:51,632 --> 01:09:54,320
Mark Burik:
All I had to do was tell them that they can't play.
738
01:09:57,150 --> 01:09:59,410
Mark Burik:
I would be careful with that.
739
01:09:59,460 --> 01:09:59,834
Mark Burik:
Tammy.
740
01:09:59,882 --> 01:10:02,760
Mark Burik:
Sometimes you can knock somebody down and they will never return.
741
01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:06,000
Mark Burik:
When you tell somebody they can't do something.
742
01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:09,958
Mark Burik:
Confidence is a weird, fickle thing with some people.
743
01:10:10,044 --> 01:10:13,954
Mark Burik:
And if you tell them that they can't, a large majority will shut down.
744
01:10:13,992 --> 01:10:16,102
Mark Burik:
It's not that there's anything wrong with them.
745
01:10:16,176 --> 01:10:21,300
Mark Burik:
It's just that we'll hit them in a certain way that, I don't know, they might not ever return to something that they love.
746
01:10:21,690 --> 01:10:30,682
Mark Burik:
And so I like the support that you were given, Evan aside, you were given the opportunity to play, and that's when it hit you up.
747
01:10:30,876 --> 01:10:43,342
Mark Burik:
I don't know if there was any benefit from keeping you on the sidelines for two years, but the opportunity to play and telling you that you can is what really fired you up.
748
01:10:43,536 --> 01:10:45,338
Mark Burik:
Okay, John, thanks for your input.
749
01:10:45,374 --> 01:10:48,360
Mark Burik:
He'd rather watch play sports than watch any day.
750
01:10:48,810 --> 01:10:51,230
Mark Burik:
Monica said Rail Splitter. Do you know?
751
01:10:51,410 --> 01:10:53,738
Evan Cory:
Yeah, that's Lincoln Memorial.
752
01:10:53,894 --> 01:10:56,650
Evan Cory:
That's our mascot, the Rail Splitter.
753
01:10:57,870 --> 01:10:59,726
Mark Burik:
The Lincoln Memorial.
754
01:10:59,858 --> 01:11:01,142
Mark Burik:
Rail Splitters.
755
01:11:01,286 --> 01:11:01,702
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
756
01:11:01,776 --> 01:11:12,970
Evan Cory:
So this school is founded in honor of Abraham Lincoln, and one of his nicknames was the Rail Splitter, because basically what he used to do back in the day, he cut railroad ties.
757
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:16,118
Evan Cory:
Split the railroad ties and the Rail Splitter.
758
01:11:16,214 --> 01:11:16,990
Mark Burik:
There you go.
759
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:18,310
Mark Burik:
That is a fun fact.
760
01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:24,710
Evan Cory:
And our mascot is literally Abe Lincoln with the top hat and he carries around an axe.
761
01:11:24,770 --> 01:11:26,170
Evan Cory:
It is so sick.
762
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:31,140
Mark Burik:
Well, hey, next question.
763
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:35,622
Mark Burik:
Grubowski.
764
01:11:35,706 --> 01:11:36,630
Mark Burik:
Love you, buddy.
765
01:11:36,750 --> 01:11:38,082
Mark Burik:
Thanks for following the conversation.
766
01:11:38,166 --> 01:11:38,778
Mark Burik:
Chris Littleman.
767
01:11:38,814 --> 01:11:41,274
Mark Burik:
Do you know Chris Littleman? I don't.
768
01:11:41,382 --> 01:11:47,886
Mark Burik:
I feel like I do strong player who used to absolutely poop on me when I first came out to Huntington.
769
01:11:48,018 --> 01:11:53,070
Mark Burik:
And he is now up in Seattle, Washington.
770
01:11:53,130 --> 01:12:01,850
Mark Burik:
Maybe he plays at seaside a lot and he loves hitting jumbos for how much it just demoralizes people.
771
01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:06,234
Mark Burik:
And he says how many jumbos need to go down before you cheat to the jumbo.
772
01:12:06,342 --> 01:12:16,746
Evan Cory:
That is thankfully for me, if I'm playing in the Angle, I am probably one of the more rangy defenders just because of my height.
773
01:12:16,818 --> 01:12:20,598
Evan Cory:
And I don't ever like, think about the jumbo.
774
01:12:20,634 --> 01:12:25,190
Evan Cory:
If it comes at me, I usually can just jump up and get it in an awkward way.
775
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,258
Evan Cory:
And I mean, that's kind of what you do with jumbo.
776
01:12:27,294 --> 01:12:29,870
Evan Cory:
You don't really ever just like, oh, yeah, I'm planning for the jumbo.
777
01:12:31,870 --> 01:12:37,526
Mark Burik:
There's like two players that I can think of where you sit there and he's going to go to a jumbo at some point. And I usually know when it's about to happen,
778
01:12:37,588 --> 01:12:52,230
Evan Cory:
but everybody who is I feel like both these players are about to before you're about to say to people, I just want to guess, is it Phipps? Justin Phips is one of mine.
779
01:12:52,350 --> 01:12:59,934
Mark Burik:
You know, I haven't played him in so long, so maybe he used to get me before I was thinking this way, somebody like a Dana Camacho Flowers.
780
01:12:59,982 --> 01:13:01,960
Mark Burik:
He's somebody who comes to mind for sure.
781
01:13:02,710 --> 01:13:04,370
Mark Burik:
You know, like hyden.
782
01:13:04,690 --> 01:13:05,450
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
783
01:13:05,620 --> 01:13:10,038
Mark Burik:
Hyden will go for a jumbo at some point when he's in trouble.
784
01:13:10,074 --> 01:13:21,186
Mark Burik:
And you got to know that he's pulling that out because when he's trapped, when a lot of great players are trapped, great defenders usually think, okay, now they're going to go somewhere short around the block.
785
01:13:21,258 --> 01:13:25,970
Mark Burik:
So I'm going to step up and great attackers know that great defenders are thinking that.
786
01:13:26,020 --> 01:13:27,830
Mark Burik:
So they punch it deep and fast.
787
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:39,258
Mark Burik:
And so you got to play that little balance game where you don't sprint behind your blocker, where you step up, but you're still ready to sprint instead of sprinting to location.
788
01:13:39,294 --> 01:13:40,334
Mark Burik:
You think it's going to be.
789
01:13:40,432 --> 01:13:42,340
Mark Burik:
You got to hold that ground real nice.
790
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:49,430
Mark Burik:
And for anybody who is so concerned about getting jumbled all the time, it's not going to happen a lot.
791
01:13:49,540 --> 01:13:52,010
Mark Burik:
Just stay at three quarter steps.
792
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:56,282
Mark Burik:
If it does happen, jump in Tomahawk, or take a step back.
793
01:13:56,416 --> 01:14:04,674
Mark Burik:
But take that out of your concern unless you're one of the five two people who really needs to be quick on the ground.
794
01:14:04,722 --> 01:14:10,686
Mark Burik:
And in that case, don't jump and go keep your yeah, keep your ass lower to the ground.
795
01:14:10,818 --> 01:14:13,958
Mark Burik:
And then when the ball goes up, you can't let your head or chest go up.
796
01:14:13,984 --> 01:14:16,406
Mark Burik:
You got to sit your butt down so that you can run.
797
01:14:16,588 --> 01:14:20,690
Mark Burik:
But people lose the ability to run when their chest and their head come up.
798
01:14:20,860 --> 01:14:23,750
Mark Burik:
Norseica is happening tomorrow in Mexico.
799
01:14:24,430 --> 01:14:28,670
Mark Burik:
When does the tournament start and are you going to attempt to livestream? Is it going to be live streaming anywhere?
800
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:34,158
Evan Cory:
Yeah. So my goal is to live stream on my Facebook because I don't think it's going to be streamed anywhere.
801
01:14:34,194 --> 01:14:38,450
Evan Cory:
And hopefully, I don't know what the right thing in Mexico will be or anything.
802
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:40,682
Evan Cory:
Hopefully that doesn't run any issues.
803
01:14:40,756 --> 01:14:47,646
Evan Cory:
But my goal is to kind of live stream and then it'll be on my Facebook and it starts on Friday.
804
01:14:47,838 --> 01:14:48,266
Mark Burik:
Okay.
805
01:14:48,328 --> 01:14:53,534
Evan Cory:
So we were required to be there on Thursday by 06:00 P.m.
806
01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:55,994
Evan Cory:
Kind of check in and do all the formal stuff.
807
01:14:56,032 --> 01:14:58,194
Evan Cory:
And then Friday is pool place Saturday.
808
01:14:58,242 --> 01:15:00,170
Evan Cory:
Sunday, I think is playoffs.
809
01:15:00,850 --> 01:15:06,640
Mark Burik:
From experience, if you don't bring a Jersey, they might not have one for you.
810
01:15:07,390 --> 01:15:14,310
Evan Cory:
May I have told you I'm running in about 45 minutes to go pick one up from Sean Scott at USA.
811
01:15:14,430 --> 01:15:14,930
Mark Burik:
Good.
812
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:15,494
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
813
01:15:15,592 --> 01:15:18,266
Mark Burik:
We were not told about that before we went.
814
01:15:18,328 --> 01:15:22,938
Mark Burik:
And we're like, yeah, we're going to a professional continental tour tournament.
815
01:15:23,094 --> 01:15:27,242
Mark Burik:
They're going to give us a tank top, right? So we didn't even think about that.
816
01:15:27,256 --> 01:15:31,806
Mark Burik:
And then we had to run around and get Sharpies and get matching.
817
01:15:31,878 --> 01:15:39,474
Mark Burik:
Like we had to cut our own jerseys and we had to draw the number one and two and USA on it for the entire tournament.
818
01:15:39,582 --> 01:15:41,330
Evan Cory:
A nice little Haines.
819
01:15:44,290 --> 01:15:46,910
Mark Burik:
We supported the local economy, so that's fine.
820
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,190
Mark Burik:
Ron Birch wants to know about the blue nose.
821
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:50,740
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
822
01:15:51,190 --> 01:15:52,770
Evan Cory:
So I was born out of necessity.
823
01:15:52,830 --> 01:15:54,830
Evan Cory:
It's not born out of showmanship.
824
01:15:57,710 --> 01:16:06,042
Evan Cory:
During Covid, I was out in the sun a ton, and I was like, damn, my nose is getting charred, like always.
825
01:16:06,116 --> 01:16:10,974
Evan Cory:
No matter how much sunscreen I'd put on a tournament in the Southeast, it gets hot.
826
01:16:11,132 --> 01:16:12,680
Evan Cory:
And that's just a fact.
827
01:16:13,190 --> 01:16:16,782
Evan Cory:
And it didn't really matter how much I would reapply throughout the day.
828
01:16:16,916 --> 01:16:19,378
Evan Cory:
So I was like, I'm just going to go buy the sunscreen.
829
01:16:19,414 --> 01:16:20,638
Evan Cory:
The lifeguards with zinc oxide.
830
01:16:20,674 --> 01:16:22,270
Evan Cory:
No, zinc oxide sunscreen.
831
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:31,618
Evan Cory:
So I just went and looked it up on the Internet, and the first thing that pulled up was this company called Zinca Zinka, and they just happened to have colored sunscreen.
832
01:16:31,654 --> 01:16:38,034
Evan Cory:
And I always like, before even the Bluenose, I always wore a blue hat since I was 15 years old.
833
01:16:38,192 --> 01:16:39,922
Evan Cory:
I've always worn the same hat playing.
834
01:16:40,006 --> 01:16:46,230
Evan Cory:
And then I was like, I'll just match the color of the nose to the hat, just kind of make it cool looking instead of like an idiot.
835
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:48,058
Mark Burik:
Now you got a brand.
836
01:16:48,214 --> 01:16:48,920
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
837
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:54,034
Evan Cory:
The first tournament I wouldn't played after it was up at Grand Sands in Ohio.
838
01:16:54,202 --> 01:17:03,702
Evan Cory:
And it was like the first big one after Covid kind of hit, and I won the tournament and everybody's like, who's this kid with the blue nose? So there you go.
839
01:17:03,776 --> 01:17:09,706
Evan Cory:
Why am I going to change it? Who's this kid with blue nose? I'm like you being the kid with the blue nose that's it easy to find at tournaments.
840
01:17:09,778 --> 01:17:12,738
Mark Burik:
Is it going to stay for the EVPs in Norseica? Nice.
841
01:17:12,764 --> 01:17:13,530
Mark Burik:
Yeah, I like it.
842
01:17:13,580 --> 01:17:17,130
Mark Burik:
We got a website now, so you can't do it forever.
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01:17:17,810 --> 01:17:18,210
Mark Burik:
Okay.
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01:17:18,260 --> 01:17:22,234
Mark Burik:
Patty Miller says hello, and best of luck this season.
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01:17:22,342 --> 01:17:25,374
Mark Burik:
Chris Bradhoff says, good to see you.
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01:17:25,532 --> 01:17:29,720
Mark Burik:
If you're coming to Denver for the AVP with Sammy, you've got a place to stay.
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01:17:30,230 --> 01:17:37,990
Mark Burik:
Daniel Stevens would like to know one piece of quick advice for attacking against a four block.
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Evan Cory:
So I think a huge key for attacking against a four block is having a good angle in your approach because it opens up your vision to see the blocker kind of making that move across the net.
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01:17:52,508 --> 01:17:55,018
Evan Cory:
And then also it kind of opens up a peripheral.
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01:17:55,174 --> 01:18:05,830
Evan Cory:
If you're staring at defender down in the angle and he makes a big move, like a little too early, you can see that move, and you should be able to just shoot that ball over angle.
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01:18:05,950 --> 01:18:12,054
Evan Cory:
Or if you only see the blocker and you're able to attack up high, aggressively, then they're running.
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01:18:12,092 --> 01:18:13,326
Evan Cory:
That for they're both moving.
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01:18:13,388 --> 01:18:18,634
Evan Cory:
You see the block move, then you can just kind of come cross body and attack that pretty aggressively.
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01:18:18,742 --> 01:18:26,386
Mark Burik:
Do you go into the mindset where you want to bang away from the blocker or do you want to shoot over the blocker? I feel like you're a banger.
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01:18:26,578 --> 01:18:27,114
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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Evan Cory:
And I mean, I'll even attack at the blocker.
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01:18:29,290 --> 01:18:30,260
Evan Cory:
I don't care.
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01:18:31,790 --> 01:18:35,778
Evan Cory:
I've played indoor enough to where I can attack high hands and feel pretty comfortable about it.
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01:18:35,804 --> 01:18:38,374
Evan Cory:
So I'm not afraid to challenge the block.
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01:18:38,422 --> 01:18:52,002
Evan Cory:
But also if I know that they're getting into this game of moving around a lot and they're trying to run a four or something on me because a lot of teams, what they kind of try and do is like, okay, we've let him hit a couple of times and then let's run a four and let's try and be like a little sneaky about it.
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Evan Cory:
He's either going to shoot a high line, trying to go over the block or try and bang this ball angle.
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Evan Cory:
And so whenever that happens, I usually am just like, oh, you see me, okay, just hit the ball away because you're selling out.
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01:19:03,908 --> 01:19:07,786
Evan Cory:
Most of the time they're just selling out and trying to get that high line or the hard swing.
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Mark Burik:
Okay? So if you've got the height and you like swinging, stay with the swing.
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01:19:12,862 --> 01:19:18,750
Mark Burik:
If you're a shooter, then look for the blocker, look for the defender, and either shoot over the blocker.
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Mark Burik:
Brad Keenan used to say, I just used to look for the block and if I wanted to shoot, I would hit over them like he never looked at the defender once.
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Mark Burik:
He says that always baffled me.
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01:19:28,976 --> 01:19:47,202
Mark Burik:
Just run, double run braking and they got double up and do you come in looking to hit one angle? So for me, I like to come in thinking I'm going to hit one shot, whether it's a high line, whether it's a cut shot, whether it's a cross, and then I have an off switch where if I see something, then I'll hit the next thing. Is that what you like to do or do you like to go up with a blank slate?
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Evan Cory:
I think I'm always up in the air looking to swing if I can, and then it kind of changes from there because since challenging the block, you've got to wait and see what the blockers at and stuff like that.
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Evan Cory:
But I'm always looking up to go up and attack aggressively because then that makes defenders think a little bit extra because sometimes if I go up thinking to shoot, then I slow down my approach, I slow down my arm and then it's like, oh, okay, well, we can just wait and watch and see what you're going to go and hit now.
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Evan Cory:
So I always try and come in aggressively because I think that opens up my offense.
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01:20:22,570 --> 01:20:25,998
Evan Cory:
The defenders don't know what to do as much and so that helps me out.
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01:20:26,024 --> 01:20:27,142
Evan Cory:
I think it's funny.
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01:20:27,166 --> 01:20:39,870
Mark Burik:
And I think now when I'm looking for shoots, I come in super hard and I make sure that my arm moves almost faster than it does when it swings because I'm like, I got to make sure that I sell the shoes.
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01:20:42,210 --> 01:20:45,106
Mark Burik:
But that was way different than what I used to do.
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01:20:45,168 --> 01:20:48,466
Mark Burik:
It used to be all slow, slow arm and everything.
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01:20:48,588 --> 01:20:50,726
Mark Burik:
But now I whip my arm through my shots.
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01:20:50,798 --> 01:20:53,434
Mark Burik:
Laura Tucker says, Hi, mom.
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01:20:53,532 --> 01:20:55,260
Mark Burik:
That's your mom? Yeah.
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01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:56,026
Mark Burik:
Nice.
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01:20:56,088 --> 01:21:02,110
Mark Burik:
She wants to know what you're looking forward to most this year on tour.
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01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:11,400
Evan Cory:
I think it's just getting to experience my first full year on tour and traveling for an entire year.
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01:21:11,970 --> 01:21:18,578
Evan Cory:
I mean, last year it was three events, and there was a lot of grassroots stuff, and 2020 was all grassroots.
884
01:21:18,614 --> 01:21:19,802
Evan Cory:
There was no AVP.
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01:21:19,946 --> 01:21:22,862
Evan Cory:
And so this year I finally get a full schedule.
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01:21:22,946 --> 01:21:26,126
Evan Cory:
I finally get the opportunity to go and play some international.
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01:21:26,198 --> 01:21:43,298
Evan Cory:
So just getting to experience everything, and I want to kind of soak it all in at the same time as trying to win, you know what I mean? But I think it's going to be cool, and it's something I think you can't take for granted.
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Evan Cory:
You know what I mean? I want to take it in, and I want to be able to feel those emotions of the first time, going places and traveling and doing all these cool things because like you were saying, it's an opportunity of stuff that we get to do that most people don't get to.
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01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:02,940
Evan Cory:
And so I want to take advantage of that also while competing at a high level.
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01:22:03,930 --> 01:22:10,140
Mark Burik:
How many times Eric wants to know how many times you're practicing on the sand right now.
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01:22:11,250 --> 01:22:19,378
Evan Cory:
So as of right now, we're like three to four times a week on the sand and then three to four times in the gym as well.
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01:22:19,524 --> 01:22:19,942
Mark Burik:
Okay.
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01:22:20,016 --> 01:22:24,034
Mark Burik:
And it's about a two hour practice and an hour and a half hour list.
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01:22:24,192 --> 01:22:24,900
Evan Cory:
Yeah.
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01:22:25,470 --> 01:22:37,678
Evan Cory:
And then there's like 30 ish minute thing that we kind of do 30, 45 minutes that's every day that my strength and conditioning coach has me doing.
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01:22:37,824 --> 01:22:38,206
Mark Burik:
Okay. Is that a liability or a conditioning?
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01:22:38,268 --> 01:22:55,210
Evan Cory:
It's more like efficiency and what he's been seeing like, okay, let's build these muscles up every day, whereas we'll do the whole body and whatever we're focusing on as a team these three to four days.
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01:22:55,260 --> 01:23:04,630
Evan Cory:
But every day you need to be doing this so you can catch up to where you need to be and then stretching and stuff on top of that, which I feel like is another hour in the day at least.
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Mark Burik:
Nice.
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01:23:05,364 --> 01:23:12,478
Mark Burik:
Is that like a glute activation or a back pedal or a side shuffle or you don't have to share it?
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01:23:12,504 --> 01:23:15,970
Evan Cory:
Yes. It's a lot of posterior chain stuff for me.
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01:23:16,020 --> 01:23:23,110
Mark Burik:
A lot of hamstrings, a lot of glutes because I have really large quads, but I don't have massively large hamstrings.
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01:23:23,730 --> 01:23:28,226
Mark Burik:
It's nice to have a trainer who can see that and then give you that homework.
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01:23:28,298 --> 01:23:33,180
Mark Burik:
That's such an advantage for people who kind of go it on their own all the time.
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01:23:34,290 --> 01:23:40,690
Mark Burik:
A lot of times, your strengths and your weaknesses hide from you or they hide behind your picture of yourself.
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01:23:40,860 --> 01:23:44,102
Mark Burik:
And that is not an objective picture.
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01:23:44,246 --> 01:23:50,400
Mark Burik:
And to have somebody to coach a trainer just looking at that, even if it's once a week to say, hey, here's your homework for the week.
908
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:57,730
Mark Burik:
But if you're trainer, if you're somebody who sees a trainer once a week and you don't get a homework assignment from them, you're wasting your time and money.
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01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:58,078
Mark Burik:
Yeah.
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01:23:58,104 --> 01:23:59,242
Mark Burik:
And they're not doing their job.
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01:23:59,316 --> 01:23:59,698
Mark Burik:
Okay. Rocky life asks, what's the hardest part of living and training in California?
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01:23:59,784 --> 01:24:15,706
Evan Cory:
I think the hardest part of just like being a professional athlete is like, the discipline it takes, because there's a lot of times I mean, I'm 24 years old, I have a lot of friends.
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01:24:15,768 --> 01:24:18,418
Evan Cory:
They have a lot of social life and stuff like that.
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01:24:18,444 --> 01:24:21,034
Evan Cory:
But there are times where you have to say no.
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01:24:21,132 --> 01:24:28,210
Evan Cory:
And I think at a younger age, it's really hard to do, especially when you see your friends going out and having fun.
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01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:30,818
Evan Cory:
But it's two days before a tournament.
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01:24:30,974 --> 01:24:32,738
Evan Cory:
It's Wednesday or Thursday.
918
01:24:32,774 --> 01:24:36,826
Evan Cory:
And you're like, you know what? If I go and drink tonight, I'm not going to perform at my highest level.
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01:24:37,008 --> 01:24:38,774
Evan Cory:
So I think it's living the discipline.
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01:24:38,822 --> 01:24:44,314
Evan Cory:
It's, oh, I love fried chicken, but that's what I ain't getting to eat fried chicken because it ain't healthy for me right now.
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01:24:44,352 --> 01:24:46,090
Mark Burik:
It doesn't exist in California.
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01:24:49,210 --> 01:24:52,490
Mark Burik:
Raw, naked, faux chicken, vegan.
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01:24:52,810 --> 01:24:58,974
Evan Cory:
I think that kind of creates the difference between the highest level and the lower qualifier level players.
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01:24:59,022 --> 01:25:16,850
Evan Cory:
Is that discipline day in and day out, because it is every single day, you know what I mean? And I think if you can't do that every single day, if you take two days off, if you take your Saturday or Sunday off, you're not doing what you need to do.
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01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:22,420
Mark Burik:
Right? And I see people come to California and you're like, yeah, you made the first big step.
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01:25:22,930 --> 01:25:24,182
Mark Burik:
I'm proud of you.
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01:25:24,316 --> 01:25:25,586
Mark Burik:
You're going to go get it.
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01:25:25,708 --> 01:25:42,954
Mark Burik:
And then they get into the wrong crowd, the wrong life or the wrong temptations or the wrong part time job that crushes them, introducing them to party life changes their sleep pattern to a point where if you're bartending right, you think like, oh, you know what? I can bartend.
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01:25:43,002 --> 01:25:45,050
Mark Burik:
Well, if you're bartending, you're on your feet all day long.
930
01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:47,226
Mark Burik:
You're bending over so your low back is shot.
931
01:25:47,358 --> 01:25:48,974
Mark Burik:
You're tempted to drink all the time.
932
01:25:49,012 --> 01:25:58,742
Mark Burik:
You're probably meeting a bunch of guys and girls, and that's like going to try to zap your time away, and you have to figure out what you're going to do to support yourself.
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01:25:58,876 --> 01:26:03,698
Mark Burik:
That is going to take away from your volleyball the least, because if you stay up till 04:00 A.m.
934
01:26:03,724 --> 01:26:06,878
Mark Burik:
During the week, your body's going to want to stay up till 04:00 A.m.
935
01:26:06,904 --> 01:26:09,102
Mark Burik:
During a tournament, and you're going to be screwed like that's.
936
01:26:09,126 --> 01:26:11,598
Mark Burik:
The time when you fire up is after 11:00 P.m..
937
01:26:11,634 --> 01:26:15,426
Mark Burik:
If you're a bartender right, that is not serving you on the court.
938
01:26:15,498 --> 01:26:22,862
Mark Burik:
So too many people get out here and then they get California kitchen and they forget why they came.
939
01:26:22,996 --> 01:26:24,234
Mark Burik:
It was volleyball.
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01:26:24,342 --> 01:26:28,840
Evan Cory:
Thanks for having me on and looking forward to a good year.
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01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:30,990
Evan Cory:
See you in Austin.
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01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:32,238
Mark Burik:
See you in Austin.
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01:26:32,394 --> 01:26:33,066
Mark Burik:
Good luck.
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01:26:33,138 --> 01:26:34,850
Mark Burik:
Appreciate your time, guys.
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01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:42,930
Mark Burik:
Go follow him at Evan Cory volley on Instagram and check out his swag collection and maybe join his Patreon so you can get his practice updates.
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01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:46,358
Mark Burik:
Check that [email protected].
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01:26:46,444 --> 01:26:46,838
Mark Burik:
Yes.
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01:26:46,924 --> 01:26:47,282
Mark Burik:
Awesome.
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01:26:47,356 --> 01:26:47,802
Mark Burik:
Thanks, Evan.
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01:26:47,826 --> 01:26:49,646
Mark Burik:
I appreciate you have a good one, man.
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01:26:49,768 --> 01:26:50,238
Mark Burik:
Bye.
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01:26:50,334 --> 01:26:50,480
Mark Burik:
You.